Work on Sundays

[Confiteor_Deo]

And you process that to mean mortal sin?


I have never heard of the good Bishop.
Does he speak universally for the Church?

hmmmm. Now if you had something from the official Catechism…:ehh:

According to the Modern Catholic Dictionary, “grievous matter” is “Moral obligations that are binding under pain of mortal sin”. Since the Bishop said grievous sin, I am sure he was intending to point out that it is a mortal sin.

It says that two priests that work in the seminary “painstakingly” reviewed the book, catechists and members of the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine have found it invaluable in catechizing adults & children, and priests & schools of the country were quite fond of it by implementing it in the school catechism and using it in homilies. I think that it has at least some credibility to it, too, from the fact that a Bishop wrote it. However, I could not find a direct statement in the Catechism of the Church that says excess servile work is a mortal sin.

 

[pianistclare]

According to the Modern Catholic Dictionary, “grievous matter” is “Moral obligations that are binding under pain of mortal sin”. Since the Bishop said grievous sin, I am sure he was intending to point out that it is a mortal sin.

It says that two priests that work in the seminary “painstakingly” reviewed the book, catechists and members of the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine have found it invaluable in catechizing adults & children, and priests & schools of the country were quite fond of it by implementing it in the school catechism and using it in homilies. I think that it has at least some credibility to it, too, from the fact that a Bishop wrote it. However, I could not find a direct statement in the Catechism of the Church that says excess servile work is a mortal sin.

Because there is not one. Two priests painstakingly reviewing does not Doctrine make.
As someone upthread said. I would hope that the Good Lord, in His eternal wisdom would not condemn a person for working…particularly working to support a family, servile or not, on a Sunday.
May God have mercy on all of us, not matter the personal scenario.

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

Because there is not one. Two priests painstakingly reviewing does not Doctrine make.
As someone upthread said. I would hope that the Good Lord, in His eternal wisdom would not condemn a person for working…particularly working to support a family, servile or not, on a Sunday.
May God have mercy on all of us, not matter the personal scenario.

This was just concerning servile work that is not of necessity. If it is necessary, there is no sin in doing it.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I make sure I attend Mass every single Sunday that I’m not too sick or highly contagious.

I make sure to spend quality time with my husband.

I absolutely loathe housework. So it is an act of charity for me to clean even on Sundays. Besides I have limited physical and mental energy. If it’s a good health day it’s getting done, even heavy work, Sunday or otherwise.

I work for the Church Nursery (get paid too) on Sundays.

I love to eat out with my husband after Church or shop. And it is good for my mental illness to get out of the house whenever I can.

I used to scruple and do absolutely nothing on Sundays. Sundays were made for God, family and our own well being. As long as I remember to spend the day for the first two, I figure what helps me as a person is up to me.

 

[Arizona_Fat_Gir]

Many times when I go to animal shelters to visit, it’s usually Sunday. Also, I like to go to the zoo on Sundays.

I don’t like gambling like so many in my neighborhood seem to, with the buses taking them to casinos.

Sometimes I go to Petsmart to see their animals and pick up some bird seed. I used to have little animals from there, but they died. At this time I have two birds and two dogs. They keep me busy although they don’t go to the dog park.

Sundays are kind of strange for me. I go to the vigil Mass the afternoon before, and on Sundays nothing is going on. I did try a new thing; I got some rocks out of my yard, cleaned them with a toothbrush and then painted them. They look nice. I wonder how it would be to have all the rocks in the yard painted a different color. Actually, I found two heart shaped rocks. One is painted with red and blue. I put that on my other bird’s grave. She died a while ago. The other one is a lovely shade of purple, and I put green metallic on it to give it some interest. To paint all my rocks would take a long time.

 

[LongingSoul]

Many times when I go to animal shelters to visit, it’s usually Sunday. Also, I like to go to the zoo on Sundays.

I don’t like gambling like so many in my neighborhood seem to, with the buses taking them to casinos.

Sometimes I go to Petsmart to see their animals and pick up some bird seed. I used to have little animals from there, but they died. At this time I have two birds and two dogs. They keep me busy although they don’t go to the dog park.

Sundays are kind of strange for me. I go to the vigil Mass the afternoon before, and on Sundays nothing is going on. I did try a new thing; I got some rocks out of my yard, cleaned them with a toothbrush and then painted them. They look nice. I wonder how it would be to have all the rocks in the yard painted a different color. Actually, I found two heart shaped rocks. One is painted with red and blue. I put that on my other bird’s grave. She died a while ago. The other one is a lovely shade of purple, and I put green metallic on it to give it some interest. To paint all my rocks would take a long time.

You sound like someone like St Francis who finds God love through your relationship with animals.

You should try and get your username changed to Arizona Francis! That seems more reflective of your spirt!!

 

[Graceful_Lamb]

We go to Mass on Sundays. We do laundry and some light housework. We avoid doing yard work on Sundays.

 

[EasterJoy]

OK…so everybody makes Sunday different in some way other than attending Mass.

Are the major solemnities different for you? I ask because in my grandfather’s time, he didn’t allow unnecessary work on his behalf on holy days of obligation any more than on a Sunday or on Christmas. That is something that seemed to go by the wayside after he died: that is, December 8 and August 15 weren’t set aside like Sundays any more.

He had that luxury because he ran his own business. He could decide to close. He realized that people working for other employers might not be allowed to take holy days off and still keep their jobs.

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

OK…so everybody makes Sunday different in some way other than attending Mass.

Are the major solemnities different for you? I ask because in my grandfather’s time, he didn’t allow unnecessary work on his behalf on holy days of obligation any more than on a Sunday or on Christmas. That is something that seemed to go by the wayside after he died: that is, December 8 and August 15 weren’t set aside like Sundays any more.

He had that luxury because he ran his own business. He could decide to close. He realized that people working for other employers might not be allowed to take holy days off and still keep their jobs.

For me, holy days of obligation are like any other day except I go to Mass after school. My family doesn’t have the luxury of getting time off of their jobs/school since it is pretty demanding.

 

[LongingSoul]

OK…so everybody makes Sunday different in some way other than attending Mass.

Are the major solemnities different for you? I ask because in my grandfather’s time, he didn’t allow unnecessary work on his behalf on holy days of obligation any more than on a Sunday or on Christmas. That is something that seemed to go by the wayside after he died: that is, December 8 and August 15 weren’t set aside like Sundays any more.

He had that luxury because he ran his own business. He could decide to close. He realized that people working for other employers might not be allowed to take holy days off and still keep their jobs.

Good Friday we treat with the utmost solemnity. The ceremonies are somber and because I’ve normally done Stations throughout Lent it is more poignant. We fast and abstain religiously and watch the TV stories of the Crucifixion. Good Friday stands out in the calendar as solemn and serious.

 

[Edmundus1581]

It is from My Catholic Faith: A Manual of Religion and a Catechism in pictures by Most Reverend Louis LaRavoire Morrow, D.D., Bishop of Krishnagar. Here is the quote I was referring to:
The emphasis is in the original text.

Thanks for posting that.

I agree with pianistclare that it is not an authoritative text, and I too have never heard this unusual doctrine (the two hours), but you were asked to provide a source, and you did, and that deserves acknowledgement.

 

[pensmama87]

OK…so everybody makes Sunday different in some way other than attending Mass.

Are the major solemnities different for you? I ask because in my grandfather’s time, he didn’t allow unnecessary work on his behalf on holy days of obligation any more than on a Sunday or on Christmas. That is something that seemed to go by the wayside after he died: that is, December 8 and August 15 weren’t set aside like Sundays any more.

He had that luxury because he ran his own business. He could decide to close. He realized that people working for other employers might not be allowed to take holy days off and still keep their jobs.

I try to do the same for solemnities, but I have a bit of “luxury” as an SAHM with how I plan my time. So I might do more the day before or after so things can be easier on the day. I also tend to be fussier about food - we’ll have something special on those days (if I remember…)

My husband still has to work though. He does find time for Mass.

 

[Allegra]

My husband still has to work though. He does find time for Mass.

My husband’s job is to play the organ and direct the Church choir, so…

 

[Sarcelle]

For me, holy days of obligation are like any other day except I go to Mass after school. My family doesn’t have the luxury of getting time off of their jobs/school since it is pretty demanding.

Yeah same here, except I go to mass right after work.

Not all of us have the luxury of taking all holy days of obligation as days off. Especially those of us who work in 24/7 industries, like in the trucking or railroad industry.

 

[Sarcelle]

Good Friday we treat with the utmost solemnity. The ceremonies are somber and because I’ve normally done Stations throughout Lent it is more poignant. We fast and abstain religiously and watch the TV stories of the Crucifixion. Good Friday stands out in the calendar as solemn and serious.

This is the day where I make sure to take a day off from work. I spends this day fasting and praying the rosary. A very solemn day for me.

I also start praying the Divine Mercy novena on this day.

 

[truetofaith]

I entertain at Assisted Living & Nursing facilities. ( paying job ) Sometimes on Sunday. If it conflicts with Mass, I go on the Sat. schedule.

When I worked for ATT, I worked a few Sundays but usually fulfilled the Mass obligation.

I also pray at night so …only try to do what we can in this modern world!

 

[truetofaith]

This is the day where I make sure to take a day off from work. I spends this day fasting and praying the rosary. A very solemn day for me.

I also start praying the Divine Mercy novena on this day.

You are practically at Heaven’s Gates!!

 

[Sarcelle]

You are practically at Heaven’s Gates!!

I hope so, or at the very least limping on the narrow road to heaven.

 

[pianistclare]

This was just concerning servile work that is not of necessity. If it is necessary, there is no sin in doing it.

Yeah, but that’s not what you said, nor is it what he said.
Purposefully confusing others with regard to these things is not helpful.
Some people HAVE to work on Sundays to support their families.
Do you not believe that God knows this, and will show mercy?
That’s pretty harsh. I don’t know one priest who would rather people be homeless than work the only job they can get that requires them to work on a Sunday. And many immigrants are in this position. While people enjoy their restaurant food on Sundays, SOMEONE is cooking and serving it.
I myself work for the Catholic Church. 12 hours days every Sunday. 9AM to 9 PM.
Would God so punish me for doing His work?
No.

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

Yeah, but that’s not what you said, nor is it what he said.
Purposefully confusing others with regard to these things is not helpful.
Some people HAVE to work on Sundays to support their families.
Do you not believe that God knows this, and will show mercy?
That’s pretty harsh. I don’t know one priest who would rather people be homeless than work the only job they can get that requires them to work on a Sunday. And many immigrants are in this position. While people enjoy their restaurant food on Sundays, SOMEONE is cooking and serving it.
I myself work for the Catholic Church. 12 hours days every Sunday. 9AM to 9 PM.
Would God so punish me for doing His work?
No.

I assumed that it was common knowledge that only servile work that is not of necessity is sinful, and so I left that out of my statements. My apologies for being vague. I assure you that neither I nor the Bishop purposefully confused people to lead them astray. In the catechism that I quoted, the Bishop does make mention of when servile work is allowed to be done on Sundays.

When is Servile work allowed on Sunday? - Servile work is allowed on Sunday when the honor of God, our own need, or that of our neighbor requires it.

1. Preparing a place for Holy Mass is a work for the honor of God, and may be done even on Sunday. In a parish where the women are all occupied during the week, and can meet for their altar society meetings only on Sundays, it would be allowed for them to sew or repair vestments for the church.
2. Work of daily necessity such as cooking, cleaning, and sweeping, and buying and selling of necessary food may be performed even on Sunday. Sewing is not permitted, as it is not of necessity. Even servile work when necessary for one’s support, for the common good, or to prevent serious financial loss, is permitted on Sunday. Farmers are allowed to care for cattle and domestic animals, and even to get in crops that otherwise might spoil. Our Lord does not desire man to suffer on account of Sunday, for He says: “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27)
3. Servile work needed by our neighbor may be performed on Sunday. For example, a farmer who has attended all week to his own farm may help a sick neighbor attend to his on Sunday. [emphasis in the original text]

The section itself is called Unnecessary Servile Work. If you would like, I can quote the entire section for you to make it clear what the Bishop is saying. The commendable work that you do at the church is considered to be for the honor of God and is permitted to be done on Sunday. Otherwise, the altar boys that prepare the altar for Mass would be sinning every Sunday. My own parents have worked on Sundays without any correction from me because their jobs are quite demanding and they sometimes can’t take Sunday off without endangering their employment. My father recently worked for eight weeks straight from 6:00 AM to 7:30 PM. The Bishops says that this is permitted to be done because it is necessary.