work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

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I’m curious as to how folks view this verse from Philippians 2:12-13?

Here’s some commentary I found that coincides with my view:

with fear and trembling–the very feeling enjoined on “servants,” as to what ought to accompany their “obedience” (Ephesians 6:5). So here: See that, as “servants” to God, after the example of Christ, ye be so “with the fear and trembling” which becomes servants; not slavish fear, but trembling anxiety not to fall short of the goal (1 Corinthians 9:26,27, Hebrews 4:1, “Let us fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any should come short of it”), resulting from a sense of our human insufficiency, and from the consciousness that all depends on the power of God, “who worketh both to will and to do” (Romans 11:20). “Paul, though joyous, writes seriously” [J. J. WOLF].

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Hi sola_scriptura,

I think a part of our salvation is faith. The gospels calls us to have faith. But faith requires uncertainty; I mean, if we were absolutely certain about something, then where is the room for faith?

So, I think “fear and trembling” is the uncertainty that accompanies faith. :twocents:
 
I’m curious as to how folks view this verse from Philippians 2:12-13?

Here’s some commentary I found that coincides with my view:

with fear and trembling–the very feeling enjoined on “servants,” as to what ought to accompany their “obedience” (Ephesians 6:5). So here: See that, as “servants” to God, after the example of Christ, ye be so “with the fear and trembling” which becomes servants; not slavish fear, but trembling anxiety not to fall short of the goal (1 Corinthians 9:26,27, Hebrews 4:1, “Let us fear, lest a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any should come short of it”), resulting from a sense of our human insufficiency, and from the consciousness that all depends on the power of God, “who worketh both to will and to do” (Romans 11:20). “Paul, though joyous, writes seriously” [J. J. WOLF].

searchgodsword.org/com/jfb/view.cgi?book=php&chapter=002

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Work it out to the finish; not a reference to the attempt to earn one’s salvation by works, but to the expression of one’s salvation in spiritual growth and development. Salvation is not merely a gift received once for all; it expresses itself in an ongoing process in which the believer is strenuously involved—the process of perseverance, spiritual growth and maturation. We should be in fear and trembling before the Holy God not because of doubt or anxiety; rather, the reference is to an active reverence and a singleness of purpose in response to God’s grace.
 
Work it out to the finish; not a reference to the attempt to earn one’s salvation by works, but to the expression of one’s salvation in spiritual growth and development. Salvation is not merely a gift received once for all; it expresses itself in an ongoing process in which the believer is strenuously involved—the process of perseverance, spiritual growth and maturation. We should be in fear and trembling before the Holy God not because of doubt or anxiety; rather, the reference is to an active reverence and a singleness of purpose in response to God’s grace.
That sounds Catholic, Triune.

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Wouldn’t surprise me, since as Christians, they must have some aspect of The Truth!

Anytime ‘they’ are interested in The Fullness of that Truth, see Rome!

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I’ll see Wittenberg thank you very much haha

And sanctification is certainly synergistic.
 
Work it out to the finish; not a reference to the attempt to earn one’s salvation by works, but to the expression of one’s salvation in spiritual growth and development. Salvation is not merely a gift received once for all; it expresses itself in an ongoing process in which the believer is strenuously involved—the process of perseverance, spiritual growth and maturation. We should be in fear and trembling before the Holy God not because of doubt or anxiety; rather, the reference is to an active reverence and a singleness of purpose in response to God’s grace.
That matches the notes in my NIV Study Bible 🙂
How do Protestants square this verse with their theology of being saved by simply “receiving/accepting” Christ as Savior?
 
Work it out to the finish; not a reference to the attempt to earn one’s salvation by works, but to the expression of one’s salvation in spiritual growth and development. Salvation is not merely a gift received once for all; it expresses itself in an ongoing process in which the believer is strenuously involved—the process of perseverance, spiritual growth and maturation. We should be in fear and trembling before the Holy God not because of doubt or anxiety; rather, the reference is to an active reverence and a singleness of purpose in response to God’s grace.
That matches the notes in my NIV Study Bible 🙂
How do Protestants square this verse with their theology of being saved by simply “receiving/accepting” Christ as Savior? Salvation is taught as a one-time happening, not an on-going process as in Catholic theology
 
That matches the notes in my NIV Study Bible 🙂
How do Protestants square this verse with their theology of being saved by simply “receiving/accepting” Christ as Savior? Salvation is taught as a one-time happening, not an on-going process as in Catholic theology
Yep. One which I would endorse.

Well, inasmuch as salvation is concerned (and this is from a Lutheran perspective), it encompasses all of redemptive history. Before the creation of the world God chose, in Christ, those whom He would call to Himself. This was worked out through Old Testament history to the cross, which is an event which spans all of time as to its application. That redemptive story in our individual lives begins at Baptism, wherein we are ingrafted into Christ and justified through the faith and regeneration given in Baptism, continues in our lives in personal sanctification and holiness to our reception into Christ’s presence at our deaths and will culminate in the close of the age, the resurrection of the dead, and our glorification. Properly speaking, we are justified through faith alone. But justification is not salvation. Salvation will not be complete until the Second Advent.

We are saved from before the creation of time; saved at the cross of the atonement, saved at Baptism, being saved in our sanctification, and will be saved at our Master’s return.

We can properly say we are saved. There is, however, a now/not yet tension of this reality.
 
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. (Phil. 2:12)
Much more than an absolutely guaranteed reward for making a simple decision, salvation is something we must “work out” through obedience, endurance, and perseverance.

Doing thus, we can attain the moral assurance Paul spoke about concerning his own life:
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day. (2 Tim. 4:7–8

Salvation is a free gift from God, we cannot earn that salvation yet because of our actions we can lose it. Some pick verses from the bible such as “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved”. Yet this verse is actually taken out of context of the bible where elsewhere it makes it clearer “Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved but he who does the will of my Father”. So God is not just telling us to do nothing and that is why Paul “is working out his salvation…”
 
Confused here.

We are good, but need to be in tension to the end.
But, we must not say this tension is a work?:confused:
 
Confused here.

We are good, but need to be in tension to the end.
But, we must not say this tension is a work?:confused:
Protestant theology is that we are saved by faith and grace alone but we must submit our hearts for sanctification. Sanctification is letting the Holy Spirit work in our lives to change us, help us repent, and follow the promptings of the spirit. But sanctification is a result of justification, not the reverse. Sanctification helps us to grow in our love of God and holiness. But it is justification through faith that saves, not the sanctification, by protestant theology. It’s fairly straight-forward.
 
Excellent commentary so far 👍

I also think Calvin does a pretty good job with this verse:

12 Therefore, etc. He concludes the whole of the preceding exhortation with a general statement — that they should humble themselves under the Lord’s hand, for that will very readily secure, that, laying aside all arrogance, they will be gentle and indulgent to each other. This is the only befitting way in which the mind of man may learn gentleness, when one who, while viewing himself apart, pleased himself in his hiding-places, comes to examine himself as compared with God.

As ye have always obeyed. He commends their previous obedience, that he may encourage them the more to persevere. As, however, it is the part of hypocrites to approve themselves before others, but so soon as they have withdrawn from public view, to indulge themselves more freely, as if every occasion of reverence and fear were removed, he admonishes them not to shew themselves obedient in his presence merely, but also, and even much more, in his absence. For if he were present, he could stimulate and urge them on by continued admonitions.

With fear and trembling. In this way he would have the Philippians testify and approve their obedience — by being submissive and humble. Now the source of humility is this — acknowledging how miserable we are, and devoid of all good. To this he calls them in this statement. For whence comes pride, but from the assurance which blind confidence produces, when we please ourselves, and are more puffed up with confidence in our own virtue, than prepared to rest upon the grace of God. In contrast with this vice is that fear to which he exhorts. Now, although exhortation comes before doctrine, in the connection of the passage, it is in reality after it, in point of arrangement, inasmuch as it is derived from it. I shall begin, accordingly, with doctrine.

13 It is God that worketh. This is the true engine for bringing down all haughtiness — this the sword for putting an end to all pride, when we are taught that we are utterly nothing, and can do nothing, except through the grace of God alone. I mean supernatural grace, which comes forth from the spirit of regeneration. For, considered as men, we already are, and live and move in God. (Acts 17:28.) But Paul reasons here as to a kind of movement different from that universal one. Let us now observe how much he ascribes to God, and how much he leaves to us.

There are, in any action, two principal departments — the inclination, and the power to carry it into effect. Both of these he ascribes wholly to God; what more remains to us as a ground of glorying? Nor is there any reason to doubt that this division has the same force as if Paul had expressed the whole in a single word; for the inclination is the groundwork; the accomplishment of it is the summit of the building brought to a completion. He has also expressed much more than if he had said that God is the Author of the beginning and of the end. For in that case sophists would have alleged, by way of cavil, that something between the two was left to men. But as it is, what will they find that is in any degree peculiar to us? They toil hard in their schools to reconcile with the grace of God free-will — of such a nature, I mean, as they conceive of — which might be capable of turning itself by its own movement, and might have a peculiar and separate power, by which it might co-operate with the grace of God. I do not dispute as to the name, but as to the thing itself. In order, therefore, that free-will may harmonize with grace, they divide in such a manner, that God restores in us a free choice, that we may have it in our power to will aright. Thus they acknowledge to have received from God the power of willing aright, but assign to man a good inclination. Paul, however, declares this to be a work of God, without any reservation. For he does not say that our hearts are simply turned or stirred up, or that the infirmity of a good will is helped, but that a good inclination is wholly the work of God. See Institutes, vol. 1, pp. 350, 353.

Now, in the calumny brought forward by them against us — that we make men to be like stones, when we teach that they have nothing good, except from pure grace, they act a shameless part. For we acknowledge that we have from nature an inclination, but as it is depraved through the corruption of sin, it begins to be good only when it has been renewed by God. Nor do we say that a man does anything good without willing it, but that it is only when his inclination is regulated by the Spirit of God. Hence, in so far as concerns this department, we see that the entire praise is ascribed to God, and that what sophists teach us is frivolous — that grace is offered to us, and placed, as it were, in the midst of us, that we may embrace it if we choose; for if God did not work in us efficaciously, he could not be said to produce in us a good inclination. As to the second department, we must entertain the same view. “God,” says he, “is ̔Ο ἐνεργῶν το ἐνεργεῖν he that worketh in us to do.” He brings, therefore, to perfection those pious dispositions which he has implanted in us, that they may not be unproductive, as he promises by Ezekiel, —

“I will cause them to walk in my commandments.”
(Ezekiel 11:20.)

From this we infer that perseverance, also, is his free gift.
 
Protestant theology is that we are saved by faith and grace alone but we must submit our hearts for sanctification. Sanctification is letting the Holy Spirit work in our lives to change us, help us repent, and follow the promptings of the spirit. But sanctification is a result of justification, not the reverse. Sanctification helps us to grow in our love of God and holiness. But it is justification through faith that saves, not the sanctification, by protestant theology. It’s fairly straight-forward.
Thank you for making it easier to understand.🙂

But, how is this any different than doing good things because you are filled with the holy spirit? And, from that works result.

I hope I made sense there.😊
 
Thank you for making it easier to understand.🙂

But, how is this any different than doing good things because you are filled with the holy spirit? And, from that works result.

I hope I made sense there.😊
You make plenty of sense, don’t worry 🙂 The protestant view is that hopefully good works SHOULD proceed from justification through faith. Sanctification is the result of an active faith. However, your salvation does not depend on the good works you do whereas Catholicism says it is a combination of faith AND works. Protestant theology focuses on the free gift of grace God gives us and at the moment of deep acceptance of the Cross, a willingness to be baptized and enter into a relationship with Christ, one receives the grace to be justified and justification is imputed.

Catholics don’t believe in imputation but rather infusion. Protestants look at what Paul says in Romans that we are “credited with righteousness” in terms of debits and credits. God knows we are sinners but through the merit of Christ, we are “declared righteous” or “considered” or “credited” as righteous even though we as sinners don’t deserve it.

Catholicism believes in infusion, which is different. God MAKES the Christian holy, changes the person and takes away the sin and infuses holiness. There is no declaration or imputation but rather an active change directly from God. Works added to grace earn and actively participate in this change according to Catholicism.

Imputation vs. infusion is a big difference between Catholics and Protestants. Google it and investigate it further in your investigations into Christianity…interesting concepts and ideas.
 
I will try to get a better idea of this, Thank you!🙂

I get so distracted trying to think about all these things, because they lead to more and more questions!:o

I am really happy you explained that to me.

Monica
 
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