World Youth Day: Catholicism or Corruption?

[anamchara]

Am I wrong to assume that the event went on for a week, and weve both seen 5 minutes of it? A person trying to show that it is evil is not going to show Papal Masses that were probably silent, Adoration that probably happened at least once, times and places where people could silently meditate, etc.

That is a very good point Senor I’m sure it was all wonderfully spiritual. It made me smile seeing all those youth so devoted to our Lord.

 

[consumedconvert]

Great lets see the clips of it. I’m sure someone there videotaped this thing from a positive perspective. Hey if there was good at that event I want to see it. But if all we have to go by is the nonsense off that video and the rationalizations by those who support these things, then what are we to think? I didn’t see the supporters jump up and say things like its only five minutes and not reflective of the event… Nope, they defended what was there. That leads me to believe that there wasn’t much else or someone would have spoken up.

Lets see the positive videos!

Well, to tell you the truth, not a lot of us have been to WYD…

 

[palmas85]

Well, to tell you the truth, not a lot of us have been to WYD…

Really, thats strange. I thought it was a big event well attended by thousands over the years.

 

[Lepanto]

excuse me, who said anything about “feeling each other up”? I believe that his your perverted distortion. Nice way to think about the youth in our Church Dauphin. Good Lord!

Wait a second. In posts 112 and 115 you implied that you would have no problem if your three daughters were caught up in a WYD mosh pit.

Doesn’t that count as a perverted “feeling each other up”?

 

[Lepanto]

Am I wrong to assume that the event went on for a week, and weve both seen 5 minutes of it?

I’m sure that the mosh pit concert lasted longer than 5 minutes. But even if it was just 5 minutes long–would that magically make it a good and holy event?

 

[LilyM]

Wait a second. In posts 112 and 115 you implied that you would have no problem if your three daughters were caught up in a WYD mosh pit.

Doesn’t that count as a perverted “feeling each other up”?

Having been in one or two mosh pits myself in my life - little if any perverted ‘feeling up’ going on - no more than on your average ballroom floor or ballet stage at least. No bumping and grinding or anything. Just rather a lot of pretty raucous dancing to loud music.

Yes there’s body contact, in the sense that a lot of sports such as football also have body contact, but little to no sexual content.

 

[ethelzguy]

I’m not interested in discussing my personal spirituality or the activities at my parish.

So, your faith is one of sharing your “book knowledge” only then? Perhaps if you tried LIVING your faith instead of espousing it, you might discover a more full and rich faith.

 

[Freshman88]

So, your faith is one of sharing your “book knowledge” only then? Perhaps if you tried LIVING your faith instead of espousing it, you might discover a more full and rich faith.

My goodness, how on Earth did you gather from his statement that he was not living his faith?

A very serious attack against a fellow Catholic and quite unfounded. Really, you should stop with this recent burst of silly attacks.

 

[anamchara]

Wait a second. In posts 112 and 115 you implied that you would have no problem if your three daughters were caught up in a WYD mosh pit.

** Doesn’t that count as a perverted “feeling each other up”?**

Lepanto, what in Gods name are you talking about? You have tried so hard to twist my words that you are now not making any sense.

I **rejected **the premise that ANY feeling up is even going on and that it is a perverted distortion to think this of those youth in the u-tube WYD. How is me saying I would let my daughters go to a concert count as perverted “feeling each other up”? Please explain yourself.

And btw, incase you missed my post. They are body surfing!! That is a tradition at concerts and I would have NO problem with my daughters going to a WYD and doing the same thing those youth were doing!

Infact, I showed my daughters this ridiculous link last night. I told them, it’s fanatical fundamentalism at it’s worse. These people who post this rubbish need our prayers and patience, although I have none at the moment.

 

[anamchara]

So, your faith is one of sharing your “book knowledge” only then? Perhaps if you tried LIVING your faith instead of espousing it, you might discover a more full and rich faith.

Amen!

 

[donmaximuso27]

My goodness, how on Earth did you gather from his statement that he was not living his faith?

A very serious attack against a fellow Catholic and quite unfounded. Really, you should stop with this recent burst of silly attacks.

I agree, you have no right to assume Dauphin has no living faith from the statement he made. Knowledge of theology and church dogma is essential to one’s faith.

As Pope John Paul II stated: “Theology plays a particularly important role in the search for a synthesis of knowledge as well as in the dialogue between faith and reason”
Pope John Paul II: On Catholic Universities, 1990

 

[ethelzguy]

Knowledge of theology and church dogma is essential to one’s faith.

Which I gladly accept from my Clergy and trained Laity.

Not some 20-year-old kids who criticize said clergy and laity and think they know it all.

 

[Freshman88]

Which I gladly accept from my Clergy and trained Laity.

Not some 20-year-old kids who criticize said clergy and laity and think they know it all.

Do you really have to attack us with every single post? Honestly. Move on.

 

[donmaximuso27]

Which I gladly accept from my Clergy and trained Laity.

Not some 20-year-old kids who criticize said clergy and laity and think they know it all.

If you only gain theological knowledge, doctrine, and law from clergy and trained laity then you must lack greatly. Unless you are in an area with very few Catholics, you could never obtain great theological knowledge from clergy, for they have far less the amount of time required to help one master theology. If you do not study theology individually you could not possibly hope to master its many schools and complexities. Scripture and Tradition only encourages us to constantly desire God and to always desire to know God, to grow in our relationship with God.

By your definition, however, we must only seek knowledge of God, or theology, from the clergy and trained laity. While the religious have a duty to spread the Gospel and to teach theology, they only encourage the laity to do the same in life. You need to realize the vertical relationship with God, between God and man, as well as the horizontal, which is Christ’s Church.

And honestly, why are you even a member on an online Catholic forum, if you do not want to discuss and debate matters of the Church, which will always involve theology, with 20 year old kids and “know-it-alls”. Your charity is lacking greatly, especially when you assume arrogance on members of this forum, simply because they disagree with your viewpoints, and have shared horrible experiences with certain heretical clergy, which, by the way, do exist.