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smndtupidisaftr
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Yes, I do like to assume that people have only the best intentions, but I’ll be the first to admit that this can be hard sometimes.
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triumphguy
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It can - especially when it seems to simple to do it right!
But we just don’t know what we don’t know, about the priest and what he is going through.
But we just don’t know what we don’t know, about the priest and what he is going through.
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Kevin812
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The same for me.
In the past and in my Parish if the Scrutinies are said at one Mass, then the Readings and homily will be the same for the other four Masses that weekend. The Liturgy Director feels that it is less confusing for the Readers, “Mass Leaders,” Priest, and pew sitters.
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triumphguy
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It’s also a lot less homily prep for the priest who is very busy at this time of year.The same for me.
In the past and in my Parish if the Scrutinies are said at one Mass, then the Readings and homily will be the same for the other four Masses that weekend. The Liturgy Director feels that it is less confusing for the Readers, “Mass Leaders,” Priest, and pew sitters.
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hudson
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This argument is used way to often on these forums. Are black masses not “bad” masses? God is made present in the Eucharist at these masses. To say there are no such thing as “bad” masses is bogus in my opinion. Say the black and do the red that’s it. There is no need to be yucking it up. The Priest should realize he is acting in persona Christi offering his once for all sacrifice to God the father. I could also do without hearing drums banging and guitars blaring while this is taking place.
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triumphguy
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I dunno - I’ve never been to one. How many have you been to? I would imagine they are invalid.
What I object to is “worst mass ever” type rants.
It’s like saying - worst crucifixion ever. Sounds blasphemous doesn’t it, because it was our Lord that died for us.
The mass is never bad. Rubrics may not have been followed, but the mass is never bad.
But saying rubrics weren’t followed is not quite as dramatic, is it? No. The mass has to be bad in order for there to be a little drama.
I say be part of the solution, because if you are not then you are part of the problem. And the solution isn’t having a good moan on a forum.
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sojo
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So bummed. I had thought we were going to get a good rendition of the “worst Mass ever.”
Honestly, the worst Mass I went to had someone die in the middle of it. The second worst Mass had someone have a heart attack in the middle, but then died later in the hospital.
The 3rd worst Mass was really sad. The priest took ill suddenly so we had the retired priest who lives in the rectory celebrate Mass. We all winced because the poor man had been declining and the few Masses he celebrated were getting worse and worse. But the last one was, bar none the worse. We sat through 2 full renditions of the opening prayers. As he forgot he had already read them. Then the readings from the lectors went OK. Then we waited for about 5 minutes for him to find his glasses to read the Gospel. They were already on his face. Then he read the gospel three times. He kept forgetting he read it already. He read his homily slooooooowly. Twice.
Then he skipped everything after that and started the consecration. (No collection, no intercessions, no creed, no Lords prayer) The ushers who were readying their baskets quickly dropped them and returned to their pews. They needn’t had hurried. Everything was proceeding at a snail’s pace anyway.
Then he lost his place n the consecration, said one part 3 times, skipped one part entirely. Then he served himself sat down, closed his eyes and meditated. We thought. But no, he had fallen asleep. No communion had been served and Father was out cold.
The altar server was a young boy and totally clueless what to do. After man minutes and miniutes ofof uncomfortable silence and everyone looking at each other, “what do we do??? should we just leave??? call 9-1-1???,” the boy’s dad crept up onto the altar and motioned to his son and whispered in his ear. The boy went back and gently nudged Father who woke up with a start (thank goodness… we were all worried he might have died). But this time the entire Mass was going on 2 hours and no one was served communion.
The priest conferred with the altar server who had to shout in his ear that he needed to begin serving Mass. The poor Father proceeded to the altar to start OVER from the beginning. The very beginning.
With much hand motions we all encouraged the young man to lead the old priest to the altar, stand him up and let him serve one or two people and then lead him back to his chair. The rest of communion was served by the Extraordinary Ministers.
I don’t think we ever had a closing prayer. No closing hymn. Pretty much a run for the door after over 2-1/2 hours of hearing the most convoluted Mass ever.
It made a clown Mass a walk in the park, let me tell you. It was so sad. I don’t even have a clue if it was a valid Mass at all - so much was left out.
Honestly, the worst Mass I went to had someone die in the middle of it. The second worst Mass had someone have a heart attack in the middle, but then died later in the hospital.
The 3rd worst Mass was really sad. The priest took ill suddenly so we had the retired priest who lives in the rectory celebrate Mass. We all winced because the poor man had been declining and the few Masses he celebrated were getting worse and worse. But the last one was, bar none the worse. We sat through 2 full renditions of the opening prayers. As he forgot he had already read them. Then the readings from the lectors went OK. Then we waited for about 5 minutes for him to find his glasses to read the Gospel. They were already on his face. Then he read the gospel three times. He kept forgetting he read it already. He read his homily slooooooowly. Twice.
Then he skipped everything after that and started the consecration. (No collection, no intercessions, no creed, no Lords prayer) The ushers who were readying their baskets quickly dropped them and returned to their pews. They needn’t had hurried. Everything was proceeding at a snail’s pace anyway.
Then he lost his place n the consecration, said one part 3 times, skipped one part entirely. Then he served himself sat down, closed his eyes and meditated. We thought. But no, he had fallen asleep. No communion had been served and Father was out cold.
The altar server was a young boy and totally clueless what to do. After man minutes and miniutes ofof uncomfortable silence and everyone looking at each other, “what do we do??? should we just leave??? call 9-1-1???,” the boy’s dad crept up onto the altar and motioned to his son and whispered in his ear. The boy went back and gently nudged Father who woke up with a start (thank goodness… we were all worried he might have died). But this time the entire Mass was going on 2 hours and no one was served communion.
The priest conferred with the altar server who had to shout in his ear that he needed to begin serving Mass. The poor Father proceeded to the altar to start OVER from the beginning. The very beginning.
With much hand motions we all encouraged the young man to lead the old priest to the altar, stand him up and let him serve one or two people and then lead him back to his chair. The rest of communion was served by the Extraordinary Ministers.
I don’t think we ever had a closing prayer. No closing hymn. Pretty much a run for the door after over 2-1/2 hours of hearing the most convoluted Mass ever.
It made a clown Mass a walk in the park, let me tell you. It was so sad. I don’t even have a clue if it was a valid Mass at all - so much was left out.
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Faithdancer
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Wait, don’t complain yet…HERE COME THE DANCING GIRLS!:extrahappy:
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triumphguy
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Ya know! Just thank God that the retired priest had the charity to say mass for you all, and pray for him, his health, his soul and his intentions instead of “sharing” the “horror” with us for our titillation!:banghead:
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april32010
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:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
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paperwight66
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That’s exactly what happened in our parish, The lector read the first two readings from Year C, and the priest read the Gospel from Year A.
But it was no mistake! It was plannned beforehand, and the priest explained it was because of the weekend being concerned with the Scrutinies.
I don’t see why the OP felt it was such a huge problem - after all, the Mass obligation is fulfilled even if ALL the reading aren’t of the correct Sunday.
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Spudbynight
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OP obviosuly hasn’t seen the Cardinal Schonborn “Baloon Mass”
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