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[gurrato_alaien]

Peace

Yesterday I watched an American program opera in one TV channel talking about statistics regarding Pornography, they said that in USA alone they spend more than 10 billion $ every year for sex trading,
Such as movie or internet…etc … And most of American people visiting the sex sites in the internet and many of them are addicts watching movie, visiting internet sites….

But this does not shock me because we know that society, but what shock me is that they say that 40% from Christians religious men visiting the sex sites.

I wonder why the Christians religious men do this, it seem to me because the bible has a lot of verses maybe 10 stories talking about incest, pornography….

And I am wonder if they spend the 10 billion $ for some thing good for people. You wouldn’t find any poor people at all in the world.

As Muslims we fear God almighty from even in thinking in such deeds

I thank almighty Allah for sending Prophet Muhammad pbuh teaching us the great manner

May God Protect us from evil deeds.

Peace

 

[exoflare]

guarrato,

Seriously, what do you hope to accomplish with posts like this?

 

[gurrato_alaien]

exoflare:

guarrato,

Seriously, what do you hope to accomplish with posts like this?

Nothing just this statistics from the west not from Muslims and really I thank God because I am a Muslim, and the decision is yours.

Peace.

 

[exoflare]

gurrato alaien:

Nothing just this statistics from the west not from Muslims and really I thank God because I am a Muslim, and the decision is yours.

Peace.

So you posted just to insult “the West”. Good for you.

We are indeed getting a good education of Islam through posts like this one, but probably not in any way you ever imagined.

 

[exoflare]

gurrato alaien:

Nothing just this statistics from the west not from Muslims

How silly of me, I forgot… Are you implying, by this, that there are no Muslims in the West?

 

[gurrato_alaien]

exoflare:

We are indeed getting a good education of Islam through posts like this one, but probably not in any way you ever imagined.

Why!!!? Is it because I put the facts front of you

 

[exoflare]

gurrato alaien:

Why!!!? Is it because I put the facts front of you

You’re a smart guy, I’m sure you’ll figure it out.

 

[Han_Ji_Hye]

you both are funny!

 

[asteroid]

Yes, the statistics are horrible.

On the other hand I’ve only been to an Islamic country once. While wandering around on my own (which was uncommon, I was nearly always accompanied by my wife) I was stopped by muslims offering me the chance of sex with prostitutes, drugs and other things. The Medina in that particular town has a large red light zone.

So while the statistics about the US (and UK) are bad, we are not alone. Such problems exist in Islamic nations too.

The fault lies not in the Christian teachings, nor in the Islamic teachings. Both preach against these things. The fault lies solely in us, sinful men and women.

 

[gurrato_alaien]

asteroid:

Yes, the statistics are horrible.

On the other hand I’ve only been to an Islamic country once. While wandering around on my own (which was uncommon, I was nearly always accompanied by my wife) I was stopped by muslims offering me the chance of sex with prostitutes, drugs and other things. The Medina in that particular town has a large red light zone.

So while the statistics about the US (and UK) are bad, we are not alone. Such problems exist in Islamic nations too.

The fault lies not in the Christian teachings, nor in the Islamic teachings. Both preach against these things. The fault lies solely in us, sinful men and women.

And what about Christians religious men being 40% from Christians religious men visiting the sex sites.

But this does not shock me because we know that society, but what shock me is that they say that 40% from Christians religious men visiting the sex sites.
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[Cyber_Knight]

Everybody visits sex sites regardless muslims or non muslims. who doesnt like sex now i am asking you???

lets try to take a look at your end. we are playing statistic right? I think this one is more important than sex site chit chat :

Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write

Total population:
India… 59.5%
Pakistan… 48.7%
Bangladesh…43.1%

Male:
India… 70.2%
Pakistan… 61.7%
Bangladesh… 53.9%

Female:
India… 48.3%
Pakistan… 35.2%
Bangladesh… 31.8%

(2003 est)

odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html

 

[Cyber_Knight]

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**Health & Disability
Muslims report worst health
**
Muslim males and females in Great Britain had the highest rates of reported ill health in 2001.

For More Click Here

 

[Cyber_Knight]

**Nobel facts **

The following are true facts and verified statistics:

**The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes: **

Literature
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yasser Arafat

Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

**The Global Jewish population is aproximately 14,000,000 or about 0.02% of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes: **

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 -! Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

Physics:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl

The Jews are not demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling and chanting and asking for revenge, the Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims.

The Jews don’t highjack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, the Jews don’t traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

The Jews don’t have the economical strength of the Petroleum, nor the possibilities to force the world’s media to see “their side” of the question. Perhaps if the world’s Muslims could invest more in normal education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems, we could all live in a better world.

THINK ABOUT IT

SOURCE

 

[Cyber_Knight]

Why do Moslems Underachieve?

Thierry Gattuso

2005/11/24

Muslims make up 22% of the World’s population, according to the United Nations’ Arab Human Development Report: "Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed; 60% of Muslims are illiterate”. Only two Muslims have won the Nobel prize in a scientific field - Dr. Abdus Salam, in 1979 for Physics and Dr. Ahmed Zewail, in 1992 for Chemistry. Dr Salam a native of Pakistan , is not considered to be a Muslim in his home country as he follows the Ahmadiyyas sect of Islam.

Only 600 universities service a Muslim population of 1.2 billion in 57 countries. Half the universities concentrate on teaching Islamic education and science. India has 8,407 universities for 1 billion people and the United States has 5,758 for 280 million people. The combined annual GDP (purchasing power parity basis) of the 57 Muslim countries is under $2 trillion. The US produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion, India $3 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. The oil rich states Saudi Arabia , United Arab Emirates , Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services worth $430 billion; Thailand alone produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Underachievement by Muslims was not always the case claim Muslims and point to a glorious and illustrious time when the Arab Muslim empire was the most advanced and enlightened in the world. Many discoveries were made in the period 750 – 1250 AD according to Muslims. Critical analysis of this period shows that many of the advancements and discoveries we falsely attribute to Muslims were actually made by the ancient civilisations of the Mediterranean area, or by the ancient Chinese and Indian civilisations.

Muslims believe, that glass mirrors, were first developed by Muslim Spain in the 11th century. Around 1290 Venetians learned how to produce glass from the Spanish Muslims. The Romans invented the glass mirror around the 1st century. Research by Reinuad and Fave, indicates that Muslims chemists were the first to develop the formula for gunpowder and later produced firearms. The Chinese knew the formula for gunpowder and used it for military purposes during the Sung dynasty of the 12th century. Muslims boast that they laid the foundations for modern mathematics and two of its main branches, geometry and trigonometry. The Muslim contribution was merely to collect and combine the work done by the Egyptians, Greeks, Indians, Persians and Romans. The Indian civilisation gave us the concept of zero and modern numbers. Brahmagupta, an Indian mathematician, (598 – 665 AD) can be accredited with the initial work on algebra and negative numbers. The trigonometry terms sine and cosine have there origin in Sanskrit, the ancient language of India .

The underachievement and underperformance by Muslims is acute in the 57 Islamic countries. Muslims claim that they are recovering from a long period of colonisation and de colonisation and the effects of the removal of the Palestinian people from Arab lands. How about the achievements of Muslims who live and work in the West? Well the truth is not that much better than their cousins in Muslim countries.

The United Kingdom census of 2001 for the first time looked at the nation’s religious background. The findings showed that Muslims make up 2.8% of the UK population. Hindus 1%, Sikhs 0.6, Buddhists and Jews both make up 0.5% of the UK population. 31% of Muslims of working age have no qualifications, the highest of any religious group. As in many countries owing your own home is a major achievement and financial responsibility. 82% of Sikhs followed by 78% of Jews own their own home in the UK . Only 52% of Muslims own their own home, the lowest of any religious group. 14% of Muslims are unemployed, compared to 8% of Sikhs and 6% of Hindus. The underachievement of Muslims is even more bleak when you examine where most Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhist in the UK come from. 75% of Muslims, 97% of Hindus, 98 % of Sikhs and 69% of Buddhists in the UK are from or have ancestral links to South Asia . Therefore any cultural factors can be largely ruled out when comparing the achievement of Muslims with people from other religious groups. Muslims complain that they have to overcome language difficulties and face discrimination in the UK and state this as a factor in there poor performance. Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs face the same language and discrimination issues as Muslims, yet their achievements and performance is much better than Muslims.

cont…

 

[Cyber_Knight]

The underachievement of Muslims should come as no surprise to those of us who understand the true nature of Islam. Everything a Muslim needs to know is in the Koran, Hadith or Sunnah. Muslims are not encouraged to seek knowledge and better themselves. Muslims are against progress, modernity and science. Those that control Islam do not want to see Muslims educated as an educated Muslim will apply commonsense and logic to the Koran and see it for what its is, a collection of distorted Bible and Torah stories and in print the mind of a 7th century Bedouin bandit leader.

References

United Nations’ Arab Human Development Report 2002

United Nations’ Arab Human Development Report 2003

World Book Encyclopaedia

Encyclopaedia Britannica

Chronology of Science and Discovery Isaac Asimov’s

statistics.gov.uk/focuson/religion/

SOURCE

 

[exoflare]

How gurrato doesn’t see mudslinging like this as hurting his cause rather than helping it, I’ll never know. What kind of logic is he using here… “yeah, um… there is pornography in America, and there are also Christians in America. So all the pornography must come from the Christians. Therefore, Islam is the superior religion!.. allahu akbar!!”

 

[Cyber_Knight]

exoflare:

How gurrato doesn’t see mudslinging like this as hurting his cause rather than helping it, I’ll never know. What kind of logic is he using here… "yeah, um… there is pornography in America, and there are also Christians in America. So all the pornography must come from the Christians. Therefore, Islam is the superior religion!.. allahu akbar!!"

Astafigrullah… exoflare… you are now speaking arabic!!!

 

[gurrato_alaien]

Actually if you have some achievements in this century that is because of Muslims
Muslims do began in all things and other start taken from it and develop it.

In mathematics, in medicine, in chemistry and so on…

Please read this :

muslimheritage.com/

 

[gurrato_alaien]

**Nobel facts **

The following are true facts and verified statistics:

**The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes: **

Literature
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yasser Arafat

**The Global Jewish population is aproximately 14,000,000 or about 0.02% of the world population.
They received the following Nobel Prizes: **

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse

1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 -! Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

Physics:
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1995 - Martin Perl

The Jews are not demonstrating with their dead on the streets, yelling and chanting and asking for revenge, the Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims.

The Jews don’t highjack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, the Jews don’t traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

The Jews don’t have the economical strength of the Petroleum, nor the possibilities to force the world’s media to see “their side” of the question. Perhaps if the world’s Muslims could invest more in normal education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems, we could all live in a better world.

THINK ABOUT IT

SOURCE

And you forget occupation, murders, killing children, stealing nations. Destroying houses upon their people, really they have to give them Nobel Prizes for the shameful deeds they commit.

 

[exoflare]

gurrato alaien:

And you forget occupation, murders, killing children, stealing nations. Destroying houses upon their people, really they have to give them Nobel Prizes for the shameful deeds they commit.

You seem angry. Please tell us, what is bothering you so?