Would I be excused from Mass?

[Feanaro_s_Wife]

Actually, it is the advice I take issue with. We were not asked for our personal opinion on whether the OP should attempt to drive in fog.

Like I said before, conversation happens:shrug:** If you prefer one post answers then check out the AAA forum**

And to this question, there is no “advice” from internet posters that is needed. We can read what the Catechism says about caring for others who are ill or grave reasons for missing Mass. It appears that the OP has conditions that satisfy both of these requirements. In any event, the only “advice” should be to see the priest.

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The OP came here for advice, opinions, and support. That is her choice. If SHE doesn’t like the answers then maybe SHE should say so.**

 

[Larowyn]

**It’s not that your advice is bad, just badly timed and not very charitably put. All we can see are your words, not your intentions or heart. It came off as “get over it, you’re worried about nothing, fog is easy”. **

If you took the time to read my post,

Larowyn:

Driving in fog is easy compared to, say, driving on icy or snow covered roads. I’ve never heard of a bishop granting a dispensation from Mass because of fog.

maybe you’d understand what my words say. Or maybe I should just start posting in annoying big bold blue letters too so people would think what I said was important enough to read carefully? Hmm.

 

[Feanaro_s_Wife]

If you took the time to read my post,

I did take the time. I don’t respond to posts that I haven’t read. I’m sorry that you can’t “see” from my words that I was only trying to help you. When I first started out on message boards I came across in a way that ruffled some feathers quite often. I couldn’t understand it because I was sincerely posting out of love and a desire to help, like I hope you are. But that’s what is great about advice, you are free to take it or leave it:shrug:

maybe you’d understand what my words say. Or maybe I should just start posting in annoying big bold blue letters too so people would think what I said was important enough to read carefully? Hmm.

Now that has nothing to do with your words or tone. That is just plain rude. But thanks, i needed a chuckle this morning. (and not like you actually care to find out, but I post in annoying big blue letters so that I can see it more easily… I wish everyone did).

 

[blessedtoo]

Hmmmm, there is some of that “tone” here too. I didn’t see him give any advice, just questions and things she could bring up to her priest when seeking advice of someone who IS ordained.

I’m not the “tone” patrol and I am not addressing anyone’s “tone”. Rather, I am addressing the deliberate confusing of an issue that is not terribly complicated. If an OP has a question, I suggest, as per forum rules, that respondents address the question itself - and not the person’s intentions, deepest thoughts, phobias, or mechanical capabilities.

I don’t know about you, but some of the best advice I have received over the years here at CAF was stuff I never thought to specifically ask about…it just came up in the course of a thread after the original question had been answered.

While that may be true at times, there is often WAY too much advice and personal opinion. This forum can EASILY drive a new member, like the OP, who is very clearly stressed, into utter confusion and scrupulosity.

The OP came here for advice, opinions, and support. That is her choice. If SHE doesn’t like the answers then maybe SHE should say so.

And how are internet posters equipped to answer this question:

Would I be excused from Mass if I didn’t go and as soon as the fog lifts I go help my parents?

Are we in the business of discernment for others?

The OP probably left due to massive migraine. I’m reaching for the Excedrin right now…

 

[Larowyn]

All I said was that it would be a great opportunity to practice driving in fog, that driving in fog is safer than driving on icy roads, and that I’ve never heard of a bishop granting a Mass dispensation due to fog. I’m not the one who started attacking other people’s responses like they were flies. Excuse me if I sounded too optimistic, since it seems that most CAF regulars thrive on pessimism and backbiting.

 

[buckr02]

When was your ordination?

If the OP is still “unclear” about the legitimacy of her reasons for missing Mass, she should see her priest.

Now imagine if I were a priest and had been ordained quite a long time ago, you would feel like quite a jerk, wouldn’t you?

Anyway, you say in another post:

I’m not the “tone” patrol and I am not addressing anyone’s “tone”. Rather, I am addressing the deliberate confusing of an issue that is not terribly complicated. If an OP has a question, I suggest, as per forum rules, that respondents address the question itself - and not the person’s intentions, deepest thoughts, phobias, or mechanical capabilities.

Ok, so since I was so wrong with what I said, I guess I should in fact go and read exactly what the OP’s issue was:

Would I be excused from Mass if I didn’t go and as soon as the fog lifts I go help my parents?

Ok, so let’s think about this. Her question boils down to: is she excused from mass?

Well, what would be her reasons for being excused? She could go before she had to leave to help her family

I had planed on going to the early Mass but it is really foggy outside so I am waiting for the fog to lift

but as you can see, cannot due to the fog. We already established that if the reason is because she has to take care of her family, then that is ok.
However, in order to determine whether she is completely excused, we have to look at the first case, which is: is she excused from mass because of the fog?

Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that the issue here is whether one is excused from mass due to fog. So it would be reasonable that people talk about the legitimacy of missing mass due to fog, would it not?

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Fine, if the fog were the only reason.

HER DAD IS IN THE HOSPITAL.

Having had loved ones hospitalized, I can tell you that this is not the time to be un-charitable to anyone. You don’t think clearly, and you could be a danger to others on the road.

Again, I hope the OP’s Dad gets better.

 

[dconklin]

When was your ordination?

I love it!! I am going to have to remember that line. So many of the arguments on here are being waged by all of these “experts”. Only a priest should be giving these answers. If the poster erred, she can ask for a confession. Unfortunately, most people looking for Catholic answers don’t know to beware.

 

[buckr02]

I love it!! I am going to have to remember that line. So many of the arguments on here are being waged by all of these “experts”. Only a priest should be giving these answers. If the poster erred, she can ask for a confession. Unfortunately, most people looking for Catholic answers don’t know to beware.

Since when does addressing a poster’s concern imply one thinks he / she is an “expert”?

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

We probably ran her off by now.

 

[Larowyn]

We probably ran her off by now.

Like I said, some people make this forum seem like AF and not CAF.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

If I knew what AF was…

 

[Larowyn]

If I knew what AF was…

Answers Forum, as opposed to Catholic Answers Forum.

 

[rayne89]

I think people sometimes take for granted that things that they can do easily others should be able to do as well. My mother who is now nearly 80 as has never driven in a rain storm, never driven in fog, and never driven at night. Never in my life time has she done these things -she is not comfortable with her abilty to drive in such situations. Billions of other people can drive very well in such conditions so if she missed Mass for not feeling able to do what others easily do is that a sin? I can’t imagine that it would be.

The OP said she is waiting for the fog to lift, she does not feel able to drive in fog. What everyone else can do is irrelavant. So basically until the fog lifted she was impeded by whether conditions from getting to Mass. I see no sin in her missing Mass due to whether.