Would it be a mortal sin to lie about how much I smoked today when I promised I would smoke no more than 4?

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Hi everyone. Is it a mortal sin to lie to my friend about how much I smoked today since he told me that I can only smoke 4 per day and I’m afraid I might lose his friendship if I don’t lie? 🤷:confused: Also, please do not turn this thread into how my best friend is too strict or too harsh or something. I already know that he is. I don’t need your advice on what to do with my friendship concerning that. I only need your advice concerning this. I only went 1 1/2 cigarettes over the limit.
 
Hi everyone. Is it a mortal sin to lie to my friend about how much I smoked today since he told me that I can only smoke 4 per day and I’m afraid I might lose his friendship if I don’t lie? 🤷:confused: Also, please do not turn this thread into how my best friend is too strict or too harsh or something. I already know that he is. I don’t need your advice on what to do with my friendship concerning that. I only need your advice concerning this. I only went 1 1/2 cigarettes over the limit.
Sounds like you’ve already decided that keeping this so-called friend is more important than your integrity and honesty. And ultimately more important than the state of your soul, which is jeopardised whenever we sin, be it in big ways or small.

So why are you even asking the question?
 
I would have to agree with LilyM. However, the three critera for a mortal sin remain the same, which are defined here in the English translation of the CCC (vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P6C.HTM):🙂

*IV. The Gravity of Sin: Mortal and Venial Sin

1854 Sins are rightly evaluated according to their gravity. the distinction between mortal and venial sin, already evident in Scripture,129 became part of the tradition of the Church. It is corroborated by human experience.

1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God’s law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him.
Venial sin allows charity to subsist, even though it offends and wounds it.

1856 Mortal sin, by attacking the vital principle within us - that is, charity - necessitates a new initiative of God’s mercy and a conversion of heart which is normally accomplished within the setting of the sacrament of reconciliation:

When the will sets itself upon something that is of its nature incompatible with the charity that orients man toward his ultimate end, then the sin is mortal by its very object . . . whether it contradicts the love of God, such as blasphemy or perjury, or the love of neighbor, such as homicide or adultery… But when the sinner’s will is set upon something that of its nature involves a disorder, but is not opposed to the love of God and neighbor, such as thoughtless chatter or immoderate laughter and the like, such sins are venial.130

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."131

1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother."132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God’s law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart133 do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

1860 Unintentional ignorance can diminish or even remove the imputability of a grave offense. But no one is deemed to be ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are written in the conscience of every man. the promptings of feelings and passions can also diminish the voluntary and free character of the offense, as can external pressures or pathological disorders. Sin committed through malice, by deliberate choice of evil, is the gravest.

1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.

1862 One commits venial sin when, in a less serious matter, he does not observe the standard prescribed by the moral law, or when he disobeys the moral law in a grave matter, but without full knowledge or without complete consent.

1863 Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul’s progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However venial sin does not set us in direct opposition to the will and friendship of God; it does not break the covenant with God. With God’s grace it is humanly reparable. "Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness."134

While he is in the flesh, man cannot help but have at least some light sins. But do not despise these sins which we call “light”: if you take them for light when you weigh them, tremble when you count them. A number of light objects makes a great mass; a number of drops fills a river; a number of grains makes a heap. What then is our hope? Above all, confession.135

1864 "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin."136 There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit.137 Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.
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Thus, it is really up to your own conscience. I, however, would have a hard time justifying this one.

Also, what authority does your friend’s command carry, other than the filial love of friendship? It would be shameful to admit to it, but often so is admitting our guilt in anything! This filial love DEMANDS honesty! However, if you gave your word, you would have to admit to lying one way or another. There is no good way to do this other than to BE HONEST!!
 
There’s a sense in which it doesn’t matter if this is a mortal sin or not, but that it’s a sin to begin with. Lying, even about small things, only encourages lying about big things, as small sins always end up encouraging bigger ones.

I do not think it is mortal but it is certainly wrong, regardless. Your friend is only looking out for you, also.
 
The gravity of the act is considered different for every person, though. So, yes, lying is always a sin. However, the liar must discern what the gravity of it is in his own heart. To my conscience, lying is always a grave matter.
 
Logenzes, gum or patches are your best friend right now. I am soon to be on the quitting gambit myself, and will be using those at first to get the psychological elements done away with, or at least curbed until I stop nicotine all together. If your friend is not understanding of how hard it is to stop, tell them to skip 1/2 of their meals every single day for a week or two, and only drink water in rations, see if they can handle that, it pales in comparison.
 
Good for you that you will quit smoking. You will feel so much better and save so much money. I quit one year ago.
 
Keep up the great work you are doing quitting smoking.

So, you went a couple of cigs over your target.

Tomorrow is another day.

As for it being a mortal sin to be somewhat economical with the truth in this circumstance, personally from all that I understand, I very much doubt it, when the scenario is weighted with your drug addiction (nicotine).

Dont get dispondent - and just keep going till youre free of that wreched addiction.

Great work soldier 😃
 
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