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Morwenna
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:yup:
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triumphguy
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Jesus is fully human and fully divine.
The Son of God BECAME human at the incarnation.
The Second person of the Trinity was not Jesus until the incarnation.
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triumphguy
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A son of God, but not as Jesus fully human and fully divine.
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TEPO
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No, the Son did it. Not Jesus.Jesus Christ destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?
Jesus Christ?
(two completely different names)–the father and the son and the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be.
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TEPO
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Is Jesus’ soul God or is there a Jesus soul?
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Brendan_64
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God is divine, how can he have a soul?
Jesus had a soul as he was ‘Son of Man’. Christ, incarnate as man, was fully human and therefore had a human soul.
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St_Francis
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bben15
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Probably neither. Neither party holds to all the teachings of the Catholic Church. That is why I’m an independent.
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triumphguy
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And still has - Jesus continues to sit at the right hand of the Father.
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Brendan_64
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Does he though? When he died on the cross he died as a man. Surely he ceased to be incarnate at that point and returned to being purely divine? Does he still have a human soul?
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CrossofChrist
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Of course he has a human soul.
Jesus’ final apparition ends with* the irreversible entry of his humanity into divine glory**, symbolized by the cloud and by heaven, where he is seated from that time forward at God’s right hand.* - CCC 659
As Ratzinger/Benedict has mentioned, the Apostles would not have gone away rejoicing had not they recognized Christ’s ascension meant the entry of humanity into God and the presence of Christ to be ever near as God is, and thus all people have a place in God.
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CrossofChrist
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Jesus had a human soul he assumed when he became incarnate of the Virgin Mary. The belief that he doesn’t have a soul and that his divine nature takes its place is known as the heresy of Apollinarism.
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TEPO
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That doesn’t make sense though… Jesus doesn’t have a soul anymore?
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St_Francis
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He continued to be Incarnate and in fact resumed His Body at the time of His Resurrection. Remember Doubting Thomas?
St John 20:19 Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you.
20 And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord…
24 Now Thomas, one of the twelve, who is called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said to him: We have seen the Lord. But he said to them: Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them. Jesus cometh, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said: Peace be to you.
27 Then he saith to Thomas: Put in thy finger hither, and see my hands; and bring hither thy hand, and put it into my side; and be not faithless, but believing.
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triumphguy
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The Resurrection was in bodily form. And Jesus ascended, rather than dissolved into a mist, because he was in bodily form.
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Matilda_Bennett
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Please return to the subject of the thread. If you want to start a thread on Jesus’ divinity/Personhood, please do so in the appropriate forum. Thank you for your cooperation.
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TEPO
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I don’t think Jesus ever actually had a soul. I think his “soul” was overcome by the nature of God and that he was only fully “man” in the sense that he had a physical body with his own personal conscience. His soul wasn’t actually a soul though -it was God, because God was his Dad.
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triumphguy
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In conclusion, Jesus did not rain down fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, therefore you can’t use this to prove that Jesus was no liberal.
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tjones80
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According to the Bible Jesus did not have any political opinions at all.
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