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wynd
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If the 1911 was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me.
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Midwest88
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Are you one of those “I can’t believe people have guns!” types? Also, I won’t answer your question. It’s an immensely idiotic question. It’s in the same plain as saying if Jesus was alive today he’d side with the hippies, or would be a socialist, or would let homosexuals “marry.”
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triumphguy
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His trade was carpentry, not gunsmithing.
And he didn’t have an axe and a knife, because he had given up carpentry, in fact he had no-where to lay his head. He was poor.
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DavidFilmer
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Well, he was pretty handy with an improvised whip of his own making (John 2:13-16).
Although I suppose he could have improvised a spear, which is a whole lot more dangerous than a whip.
So I’m thinking no gun. But that doesn’t mean owning a gun is sinful.
FWIW, I see you haven’t posted very often. This thread would probably have been more interesting if you had made it a poll. You can do that after you submit a thread, but before you confirm it, by checking a box near the bottom of the screen.
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GaryTaylor
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Then He carried a hammer, today he would probably use a nail gun. What would Jesus recommend for hunting wild animals today? Was all hunting banned by Jesus?
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schaeffer
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He wouldn’t because he didn’t need to. No one could harm him physically until the time appointed by God. He walked through the angry crowd without being harmed.
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triumphguy
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The question is would Jesus own a gun? Not “what did he say about gun ownership in general?” Lots of posters seem to be getting this confused.
Had a hammer… HAD… Not any more - he was no longer a carpenter but a preacher, and a poor one at that.
Jesus fished for food. So nets were OK. But there is no evidence that Jesus hunted or banned hunting is there?
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GaryTaylor
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I kinda hear you, but He-God-didn’t need to.The question is would Jesus own a gun? Not “what did he say about gun ownership in general?” Lots of posters seem to be getting this confused.
Had a hammer… HAD… Not any more - he was no longer a carpenter but a preacher, and a poor one at that.
Jesus fished for food. So nets were OK. But there is no evidence that Jesus hunted or banned hunting is there?
He was a carpenter and as a tradesman he didn’t speak out against the trades which of course He knew all about. He didn’t need to be a carpenter either.
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But those who are not God do need to some degree as history indicates. We shouldn’t stereo-type God as anti or pro gun. In fact why wouldn’t we stereo type Him as a sportsman being He fished and a tradesman being He was a carpenter? He didn’t take a political stance on the issue of Sword control. His response to violence is clear, but there is no political stance on the trades mentioned. He never told Peter to abandon the sword. He told him to put in back in the sheath. He never said there should be no more swords made either. Living by the sword and dying by the sword are completely different than a sword existing to begin with to provide dinner
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alchemist3
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Jesus would not own a gun, he has angels to defend him if need be. However, it seems that Jesus would not forbid anyone from having a gun, but I think he would be very strict in terms of when it would be appropriate to use it in self defense.
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Randy_Carson
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Jesus is the One.
Jesus is the One.
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GaryTaylor
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All I know Randy is the ACC and SEC were “highly” over-rated this year. 
Poor kids from TCU, picking on the Christians as usual. Scandalous as is Jesus owning a gun.
Poor kids from TCU, picking on the Christians as usual. Scandalous as is Jesus owning a gun.
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thistle
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No. I don’t agree. Gorgias is correct.Would you agree with this?
It’s not necessarily the call to pacifism (or the denial of self-defense) that some would have it be.
Just curious
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TimothyH
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Some have brought up Jesus’ use of a whip or “scourge of cords” in the temple as evidence of Jesus’ use of a weapon. The whip however is only mentioned in John’s Gospel. John is also the only one to mention driving sheep and oxen out of the temple. The whip was not for people but for driving livestock.
The idea of Jesus using a physical weapon against people is actually quite absurd to anyone who seriously studies Scripture.
*And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (Ephesians 6:17)
**From his mouth issues a sharp sword with which to smite the nations, *(Revelation 19:15)
Jesus’ weapon is the word of God which comes from his mouth. Among Jesus and his followers only Peter wielded a weapon in anger and Jesus told him to put it away.
Why would someone with the ability to walk on water, command the sea to become calm and disappear into thin air when they tried to stone him need a gun? As the Second Person of the Trinity he could have just snapped his fingers and ended all creation in a moment. At a very practical level he really didn’t need a physical weapon.
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The idea of Jesus using a physical weapon against people is actually quite absurd to anyone who seriously studies Scripture.
*And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (Ephesians 6:17)
**From his mouth issues a sharp sword with which to smite the nations, *(Revelation 19:15)
Jesus’ weapon is the word of God which comes from his mouth. Among Jesus and his followers only Peter wielded a weapon in anger and Jesus told him to put it away.
Why would someone with the ability to walk on water, command the sea to become calm and disappear into thin air when they tried to stone him need a gun? As the Second Person of the Trinity he could have just snapped his fingers and ended all creation in a moment. At a very practical level he really didn’t need a physical weapon.
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triumphguy
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This is timely from Fr. Serpa: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?threadid=934524
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Ignatius
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He told his followers if they didn’t have a sword to go and buy one. A sword would have been the equivalent weapon of the time.
Luke 22:36 36 Then said he unto them," But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one".
So I would say yes.
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TimothyH
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Then the Apostles point out that they have two swords and Jesus says that it is enough.
Then they said, “Lord, look, there are two swords here.” But he replied, “It is enough!” (Luke 22:38)
Two swords for all his followers? If so then only a few weapons are enough. The fact is however, that Jesus ends the conversation abruptly when they take literally what he meant figuratively - to be prepared for confrontation and persecution.
***A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master; *(Matthew 10:24)
This is Jesus’ way of telling the Apostles that they would meet the same fate he did - martyrdom. It is a very rabbinic way of speaking. Every Apostle except John was martyred and Jesus told them ahead of time that it would be so. Jesus did not tell them to defend themselves but only that “he who endures to the end will be saved” and that they should flee from town to town until his word was preached everywhere.
The only time any of Jesus’ followers wields a weapon in anger is Peter in the garden and Jesus tells him to stop. The only time a weapon is associated with Jesus is the sword of the word which comes out of his mouth.
Even the scourge of cords when he clears the temple is not for people but for driving livestock.
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oldcatholicguy
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The question- Would Jesus need a gun? answers your question. Asking if Christ would need a gun in order to justify some sort of anti-gun or non-self defense stance is like asking if Christ would need to wear protective gear when treating people with ebola in order to justify some sort of anti-medicine or anti-immunization stance.
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Ignatius
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So, even with direct evidence that Jesus told his followers to sell their cloak and buy a sword you still insist on ignoring that and maintaining a completely incongruent anti-gun agenda. That, my friend, is the name of a river in Egypt.
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