Would liberals abort a 'gay' baby?

[JonW]

Great response, Jennifer. I think you’re right on the money there, both about the grave matter of celebrating a “homosexual orientation”, and about citing the right to life as a fundamental and first principle of justice, which is why it supercedes all others. I would just like to point out a struggle of mine, to illustrate the point.

Before my conversion, I indulged in pornography and masturbation for many years without realizing that I was addicted or that I was causing any harm to myself or others. Since my conversion I have seen the consequences of my actions as an atheist. I can say with assurance that I am addicted to pornography and masturbation, and that indulging in those acts when not entirely free not to may for that reason be less than a completely mortal sin. However, I don’t treat it that way, and I don’t make up stories for myself about how if I just stopped committing the acts my proclivity to do so would be something to celebrate. That’s absurd. Unless I am mistaken, this is analogous to Ryan’s struggle. Throwing out Church teaching that doesn’t conform to your will, habits, or even disordered nature, does not make you happy and healthy. It makes you in danger of losing salvation.

P.S. Homosexual orientation was invented in the 19th century. So was Fundamentalism, so let’s stop throwing them around like they mean something.

Jon

 

[Walt_Oliver]

The topic of this thread is **Would liberals abort a ‘gay’ baby? **Please return to it.

 

[wynnejj]

If there was something that could show that a pre-born baby had a good chance of homosexual attraction, then it would be a divisive issue between gay-marriage and pro-abortion constituents who generally vote on the same platforms.

 

[jean8]

What if the two angels had appeared as women and all the men of Sodom were beating down the door wanting to gang rape the women? Could we say that they were destroyed for sexual immorality and perversion? Ofcourse! But that would say nothing about the morality of sexual expression between a man and a woman who are in love and who made a life long covenant with each other. In the same way, one can not use the Sodom story as a basis to condemn love between two gay people. And what about Lot? He certainly wasn’t very moral offering his two daughters for the mob to do with them whatever they wanted. Why didn’t God destroy him for immorality? We can not read the Scriptures like fundamentalist protestants. We have to take into account the social and historical contexts of the times these stories were written in to truly understand their meanings and lessons.

In Christ,
Ryan

ryan,

Lev. what? I’ll look it up but I’m not going to search for it.
You can either accept what scripture teaches or follow your own way. See Rom.1:24-32
I get the impression you are for gay rights. Even God lets us go our own way. But he tells us what will happen if we do.
God doesn’t drag anyone kicking and screaming into heaven. A person can accept what the Bible teaches or pay the penalties. God hates the sin of homosexuality.
Other people like to drink or take drugs, thats a sin too. We all have to give an account to the Lord. We are called to live a holy life. this is a daily struggle.

“Don’t be the only one left without a chair when the music stops.”

God bless,
jean8

 

[jean8]

If there was something that could show that a pre-born baby had a good chance of homosexual attraction, then it would be a divisive issue between gay-marriage and pro-abortion constituents who generally vote on the same platforms.

wyn,
A gay baby? What are you talking about.
Sexual perversion is a chosen lifestyle. In any form.
God does not create a sinful lifestyle in a babe only to condemn that child in his word.
We are responsible for our actions as adults, not bables.
Your science friends are trying despartly to justfy their sinful actions.
Gay marriage? States may sanction this nonsense, but the Lord doesn’t.
It’s the sign of the End Times in which we live. Pray!

God bless ,
jean8

 

[jean8]

If there was something that could show that a pre-born baby had a good chance of homosexual attraction, then it would be a divisive issue between gay-marriage and pro-abortion constituents who generally vote on the same platforms.

wynn,
Now lets see… if we could see ahead of time what sinful nature a baby was going to develope, we could kill them right after they’re born. Wouldn’t that be wonderful.
You must be joking.
The Lord God tells us to repent of all sins when we come to the age of accountability.
Get off the baby issue. it won’t fly!
Gays aren’t born that way, Adults, not babies, choose to ignore the Lord God who made them. Perfect. See Ps.139:13-17

God bless you as you search for the truth in His Word,

jean8

 

[theistgal]

wynn,
Now lets see… if we could see ahead of time what sinful nature a baby was going to develope, we could kill them right after they’re born. Wouldn’t that be wonderful.
You must be joking.
The Lord God tells us to repent of all sins when we come to the age of accountability.
Get off the baby issue. it won’t fly!
Gays aren’t born that way, Adults, not babies, choose to ignore the Lord God who made them. Perfect. See Ps.139:13-17

God bless you as you search for the truth in His Word,

jean8

Really? Many gay adults say they remember having such tendencies as children. How do you know that isn’t true? Are you a scientist?

 

[maggiemay2u]

Really? Many gay adults say they remember having such tendencies as children. How do you know that isn’t true? Are you a scientist?

The jury is still out as far as I’m concerned. It is a conundrum. If it’s a disorder caused by a defective gene, then it could be detected, and the parents, under toady’s law, given the opportunity to save the disordered child from a difficult life by terminating it.

If it not a genetic issue (nature), then it would be personality disorder brought about by environment(nurture). Then one could argue the individual should be treated and allowed to rejoin the heterosexual family.

The question is hypothetical, would liberals, support the elective termination of children predisposed to homosexuality.

Being an old time Roman Catholic, loyal to Rome,I don’t have to devote any time at all to the question