Would missing Mass be a Sin because I can't receive the Eucharist?

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Would it be a Sin ? because my whole family is going to Mass, & i Can’t receive the Eucharist 😦 couldn’t i wait till Saturday & go to Confession & Go to Mass ? i dont know 😦
 
Sin* sorry, Typographical Error, Using My Ps3 to Type this.
 
They Would Say, “Why didn’t you receive the Eucharist”? i don’t tell anybody my sins besides a Priest, because i don’t trust anybody but a Priest.
 
One is obliged to go to Mass…on Sunday and Holy Days of Obligation

If one does not (without a dispensation or excusing reason like being sick) it is grave matter for mortal sin…

So even if you stayed home…you would be inferring you committed mortal sin…

one thought is…perhaps drink a soda or eat something right before…and give yourself “another reason” to not go to communion…

or make a decision to also “offer up the suffering of not going to communion” for those who can not in various places in the world…as another reason…

then one can say “you know I ate right before mass and thus could not since I did not fast”

also of course…the best way…if possible is go to Confession before hand…get there early…find a priest…or run over to the rectory …

just some ideas…
 
No Confession till Saturday different Parish, my church has Confession every Saturday, i don’t know 😦 i just want to receive jesus 😦 i feel the need to go to Confession because i need to go to Confession I’m in mortal sin
 
No Confession till Saturday different Parish, my church has Confession every Saturday, i don’t know 😦 i just want to receive jesus 😦 i feel the need to go to Confession because i need to go to Confession I’m in mortal sin
Not asking for a confession here…of course.

But just cause one “feels” a need for confession does not mean per se that one committed a mortal sin. So for sure do not scruple.

In anycase confession is a sacrament that is available all the time…one just asks the priest…
 
Would it be a Sin ? because my whole family is going to Mass, & i Can’t receive the Eucharist 😦 couldn’t i wait till Saturday & go to Confession & Go to Mass ? i dont know 😦
Hi! I am an Eastern Christian and reading your post I am a bit confused. Are you concern that you missed mass onced and you believe it to be sinful or that you have committed some other sin that prevents you from receiving? From what I read I will take a shot that you are not committing any " mortal " sins. Missing Mass is not a mortal sin. The Eastern Church has much teaching on this matter and we have alot of people coming up for Communion and they only ask a blessing from their priest. This is a common occurence in the Eastern Church. The reasons for them not receiving can range from no preperation to a need to go to Confession. The priest does not think it is sinful for them not to receive. They have chosen not to receive because one did not take the time to prepare and forgot to say prayers beforehand or they did not fasted beforehand. Another may decide not to receive because they need to go to Confession. Whatever the reasons you have listed though in your post I see no reason for you not to participate. Mortal sins in the West are really defined and I do not see any mortal sin in your post. In the Eastern Church we define all sin to be serious. We do not seperate sins into mortal and venial as the Catholics have done in the West. We believe all sins are serious so that an Easterner may not want to receive let us say because of a particular sin. But that sin if it was done in the West it will probably be labeled as " venial ". Can you understand me? Your sin or sins may be only venial. That is how I see it. But your sin or sins if they were committed in the East may have a different interpretation and cause you to think that since you are in Church I better only ask the priest for a blessing. Personally I don’t think my Eastern brothers and sisters should abstain from Holy Communion just because they did not fast enough or so on. All there need to be is a 10 minute preparation to help you prepare to receive Him. Alot of us in the East are really too hard on themselves. Jesus does want to give Himself to these people and yet they judge themselves unworthy. But what determines worthiness? Certainly God can forgive light sins without you going to confession. I suppose when they go to Heaven they will find out that their sins were not that serious enough to warrant them not to receive. Jesus is very merciful and desires your participation. Missing Mass is not a serious affair unless you are doing it at an alarming rate. But missing it once in awhile I will see it as a light affair. I will be more concern with the 2 timers than those who miss Mass once or twice let us say every 5 months. God Bless!
 
DavidKays, it’s lovely of you to try to comfort this poster. However, there might be some confusion for him in your post. Here in the West, missing Mass IS a mortal sin, for example.

As I understand him, he has committed some mortal sin that is not specified in his post, and therefore he needs to go to confession before he receives. He is asking if it’s better not to go to Mass at all, rather than go and not receive.

Of course, the answer to that is no. In fact, it would add another mortal sin to skip Mass. He has been well advised to find a priest before Mass if possible to confess, or to break the Eucharistic fast by eating just before going to Mass, so that he has a different reason to give for why he did not receive. Both of these are good plans.

To the OP: Mass is much more than receiving Communion. It is not pointless without receiving. The reason you go is to be transported to the foot of the Cross as Jesus offers Himself to the Father as the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Until about 100 years ago, it was not very common at all for people to receive every Sunday. They needed the permission of their confessor every time. Most people stayed in the pews. You can, too, if you need to.

Betsy
 
We are obliged to attend Mass on Sundays (or the Saturday vigil Mass, which also fulfills the obligation).

The obligation to receive Communion is a minimum once a year, to the best of my recollection. So for 51 weeks of each year (Advent 1 to Christ the King Sunday) you can, if necessary, demur from Communion. It should be noted though that the Church encourages us to receive Communion as regularly as possible and, if available, under both kinds (bread and wine) in order to fully appreciate the physical and spiritual Communion with Christ and his Church.

It would therefore be wrong to miss Mass whether or not you receive Communion. The Church views missing Mass without a valid reason as a sin. You shouldn’t compound any potential sin that you’re bearing at the moment with another one for the sake of appearances or your personal embarrassment. You also probably shouldn’t do something that appears to disqualify you from receiving Communion in order to disguise your real reasons for doing so, which could be a deception or give scandal to others. If anyone does ask, just say “I didn’t feel able to today, you can respect that can’t you?”

However, if you can get there early enough, I’m sure any priest would hear a private confession quickly before Mass if you ask nicely.

If you don’t get that opportunity though, simply go up in the line for the priest who is distributing Communion (rather than an EMHC) with your arms crossed over your chest and ask for a blessing. If you can arrange your seating so that the rest of your family goes first, they’re unlikely to notice. If they DO notice and they’re good Catholics, they ought to respect anyone for not receiving Communion if they don’t feel able to.
 
I think it was at least a custom to ask ones confessor about frequency at one period of Church history…at least in convents etc…

as for the frequency of Holy Communion through out history…this would have varied in different periods of history…and in varied places…some more frequent and others less…

(for instance Jansenism for example tended to cause people to shy away from Communion etc…and had residual effects among many…at other times…it was more frequent…)

anyhow this is an aside anyhow…so I will not go further.
 
DavidKays, it’s lovely of you to try to comfort this poster. However, there might be some confusion for him in your post. Here in the West, missing Mass IS a mortal sin, for example.

As I understand him, he has committed some mortal sin that is not specified in his post, and therefore he needs to go to confession before he receives. He is asking if it’s better not to go to Mass at all, rather than go and not receive.

Of course, the answer to that is no. In fact, it would add another mortal sin to skip Mass. He has been well advised to find a priest before Mass if possible to confess, or to break the Eucharistic fast by eating just before going to Mass, so that he has a different reason to give for why he did not receive. Both of these are good plans.

To the OP: Mass is much more than receiving Communion. It is not pointless without receiving. The reason you go is to be transported to the foot of the Cross as Jesus offers Himself to the Father as the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Until about 100 years ago, it was not very common at all for people to receive every Sunday. They needed the permission of their confessor every time. Most people stayed in the pews. You can, too, if you need to.

Betsy
I do not think missing Mass is a mortal sin but if he has committed one that is another type of sin then I can understand his concern. However if he has sorrow for his sin that will be enough for him to determine that he can go receive Jesus. Going to Confession will cap it off but the real change in a person is his sorrow beforehand. With that in hand I believe the gentleman can still go to receive Jesus in Holy Communion with the thought he will go to Confession as soon as he can go to a Confessor. Mortal sins can lose their power over you once you experience sorrow. Once that is there you can go to Holy Communion. Of course it is good to go to Confession as soon as you can. God Bless!
 
I do not think missing Mass is a mortal sin but if he has committed one that is another type of sin then I can understand his concern. However if he has sorrow for his sin that will be enough for him to determine that he can go receive Jesus. Going to Confession will cap it off but the real change in a person is his sorrow beforehand. With that in hand I believe the gentleman can still go to receive Jesus in Holy Communion with the thought he will go to Confession as soon as he can go to a Confessor. Mortal sins can lose their power over you once you experience sorrow. Once that is there you can go to Holy Communion. Of course it is good to go to Confession as soon as you can. God Bless!
Betsy is correct

I understand you are not Catholic …

But in the Catholic Church it is a grave matter for mortal sin for a person to Miss a Sunday or Holy Day Mass without the excusing reason such as sickness or dispensation…

Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.

and one is not to go to Holy Communion if one has committed a mortal sin…but is to go to confession prior.

Again the Catechism:

1385 To respond to this invitation we must prepare ourselves for so great and so holy a moment. St. Paul urges us to examine our conscience: "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself."216 Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion.

(PS grave =mortal)
 
Betsy is correct

I understand you are not Catholic …

But in the Catholic Church it is a grave matter for mortal sin for a person to Miss a Sunday or Holy Day Mass without the excusing reason such as sickness or dispensation…

Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2181 The Sunday Eucharist is the foundation and confirmation of all Christian practice. For this reason the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor.119 Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin.

and one is not to go to Holy Communion if one has committed a mortal sin…but is to go to confession prior.

Again the Catechism:

1385 To respond to this invitation we must prepare ourselves for so great and so holy a moment. St. Paul urges us to examine our conscience: "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself."216 Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion.

(PS grave =mortal)
I am Catholic but of the Eastern Tradition. I do not want to argue about this anymore. If you believe it to be mortal then you and Betsy live with it. My Catholic prayerbook states that mininum reception of Holy Communion is at least 10X a year. So I don’t think the Bishops will require you to go to Confession for missing the other 42. I like to see alot more people at Holy Communion. But if they are refused Holy Communion for missing Holy Communion really does not make sense. Communion is for everyone but to refuse those who miss it goes against the point why Jesus began it. I can’t judge people that way. If I did then hardly anyone will be deserving of Holy Communion. My objections earlier were just to show that it is still possible to receive Jesus in Holy Communion once you recognize the severity of your sin. You need not to go to Confession first to correct it so that you can receive Jesus. The Act of Contrition or Sorrow is enough. Then you can go to Confession when possible. But you can receive Jesus beforehand because you felt sorrow for your sin beforehand. The real change in a person is the amount of sorrow he or she experiences. Confession is useless without it. If there is Sorrow for that sin then God accepts this and you can receive Him. Then at the earliest time you can go to Confession. This is not the teaching of my own Church but the teaching of the Catholic Church. Ask your Confessor and he will tell you this. God Bless!
 
I am Catholic but of the Eastern Tradition. I do not want to argue about this anymore. If you believe it to be mortal then you and Betsy live with it. My Catholic prayerbook states that mininum reception of Holy Communion is at least 10X a year. So I don’t think the Bishops will require you to go to Confession for missing the other 42. I like to see alot more people at Holy Communion. But if they are refused Holy Communion for missing Holy Communion really does not make sense. Communion is for everyone but to refuse those who miss it goes against the point why Jesus began it. I can’t judge people that way. If I did then hardly anyone will be deserving of Holy Communion. My objections earlier were just to show that it is still possible to receive Jesus in Holy Communion once you recognize the severity of your sin. You need not to go to Confession first to correct it so that you can receive Jesus. The Act of Contrition or Sorrow is enough. Then you can go to Confession when possible. But you can receive Jesus beforehand because you felt sorrow for your sin beforehand. The real change in a person is the amount of sorrow he or she experiences. Confession is useless without it. If there is Sorrow for that sin then God accepts this and you can receive Him. Then at the earliest time you can go to Confession. This is not the teaching of my own Church but the teaching of the Catholic Church. Ask your Confessor and he will tell you this. God Bless!
According to your description you are Greek Orthodox. Which is different from the Catholic Church. (though we are in closer communion then say us with Protestant Christians). There are of course Eastern Catholic Churches which are part of the Catholic Church. But we are still seeking full reunion with the Greek Orthodox Churches. (and even for those who are Eastern Catholic…the Catechism quoted goes for the entire Church)…Hopefully full reunion will come sooner than later…

I quoted our Catechism …the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

This is the way things are…

Though I think too you are confused as to what we and the Church is saying here.
It is not a mortal sin (grave sin) to not goto communion each Sunday and Holy Day but rather to not attend Mass on those days. One need not go to communion…though one must go once a year…

It is not a mortal sin to not go to communion…

And one does need to go to confession and be absolved sacramentaly…

This is the teaching/discipline of the Catholic Church as one can read for yourself in the Catechism of the Catholic Church as was quoted above…
 
According to your description you are Greek Orthodox. Which is different from the Catholic Church. (though we are in closer communion then say us with Protestant Christians). There are of course Eastern Catholic Churches which are part of the Catholic Church. But we are still seeking full reunion with the Greek Orthodox Churches. (and even for those who are Eastern Catholic…the Catechism quoted goes for the entire Church)…Hopefully full reunion will come sooner than later…

I quoted our Catechism …the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

This is the way things are…

Though I think too you are confused as to what we and the Church is saying here.
It is not a mortal sin (grave sin) to not goto communion each Sunday and Holy Day but rather to not attend Mass on those days. One need not go to communion…though one must go once a year…

It is not a mortal sin to not go to communion…

And one does need to go to confession and be absolved sacramentaly…

This is the teaching/disciple of the Catholic Church as one can read for yourself in the Catechism of the Catholic Church as was quoted above…
I am sorry but I cannot understand what you are saying. Your words to me are a bit confusing. Just to let you know that we have the same Church. The Orthodox Church is Catholic as well. John Paul II calls us the second lung. I will quote him. " The Church must breathe again her 2 lungs. " Notice that one lung is not better than the other. No the Popes consider us as Catholic but of the Eastern Tradition. We have authority in this as well. The Eastern Church and the Catholic Church make up Christ’s one Catholic Church. Our system of theology may be different than the West in some areas but by in large we speak the same words. Any differences in each Church can help the other to better understand God and Church more fully. What we are missing you have. And what you are lacking we have. This is how God makes as a unit or as we call it The Body Of Christ. The Catholic Church is incomplete without us. And the same can be said for us. We the Orthodox are incomplete without you. Soon you will see John Paul II’s dream of a united Catholic Church be realised and even now it is coming to that effect. God Bless!
 
David, John Paul II was referring in his quote to the Eastern CATHOLIC churches (Byzantine CATHOLIC, Maronite CATHOLIC, Coptic CATHOLIC etc) - in other words to those Eastern churches that are in full communion with the Pope and accept him, above all other Bishops, Patriarchs, Metropolitans or others holding religious office, as their supreme spiritual head on earth. It is these Eastern Catholics that are indeed the ‘other lung’, the first lung being the Western (Latin) Catholics.

The Greek Orthodox, as admirable a faith as it is, are NOT in full communion with the Pope and do NOT accept his authority in the manner I’ve described. They are NOT the ‘other lung’. Their theology is not just different, but entirely contradictory even from that of the Eastern Catholics in some ways, for example on the critical point of Papal authority I’ve mentioned.
 
I do not disagree with those who have said that you may be able to receive communion in these circumstances, in consideration of the circumstances, including an act of perfect contrition (which does not require a “perfect” heart!), and pastoral advise.

Another option is to go forward for a blessing. I have done this in similar circumstances. It can be a bit awkward sometimes, and seems to go more smoothly with the priest distributing than a lay minister, but at least one feels comfortable with having both fulfilled Sunday obligation, and taken the cautious approach to receiving communion.

One of my most precious memories of Mass is when I approached communion with my arms crossed, and, after giving me the blessing, the priest leaned forward and kindly said “Thankyou”.

I am quite sure that this practice is licit, in general, and until the Church rules otherwise, and unless ruled against in specific circumstances (eg. by your bishop, which is unlikely as of this posting - August, 2010). If you feel that it might be a recurring problem for you, then I recommend that you approach your priest for validation.

Read this. Blessings at Holy Communion, [Zenit 24 March 2009]. It is in two parts - what the church should do about giving blessings, in a number of situations that are not relevant here, and then whether, and how, the laity can approach for a blessing, particularly those conscious of mortal sin. Ignore the first part - it may confuse the issue.

I’ll put the relevant part in a follow up post (because the system rejected it when I appended here). It takes a little effort to sort out the question, the answer, and then to infer that approaching for a blessing is licit, but there is no doubt.

Note this:
All in all, anecdotal evidence could probably be presented for all sides, and the question should eventually be decided by Church authorities on the basis of solid theological arguments.
In other words, the question will eventually be decided - because it has not been decided yet.
 
Follow-up: Blessings at Holy Communion [3-24-2009]
Several readers commented on the question of blessings at Communion (see March 24) after we presented a letter from the Holy See expressing a fairly negative assessment of this practice.
Our readers expressed opinions both in favor and against, often outlining situations that the practice would promote or hinder.
One reader, for example, commented on the value of Mass in itself: "I have read St. Leonard’s [of Port Maurice, 1676-1751] ‘The Hidden Treasure’ and was deeply moved at his writing about the miracle and the power of the Mass. Everyone in this world should be invited to attend Holy Mass no matter what religion or in what state of grace they find themselves. Especially fallen away Catholics who might be divorced and remarried (but they really are not married in the eyes of the Catholic Church) or Catholics who are in the state of mortal sin due to addictions of one sort or another. They try to amend their lives but fall too often, and they must sit in their pews while ‘everyone’ else gets up into the procession line. This is an embarrassing situation to one who is guilty of mortal sin … [but being unable to go to confession] would not dare to compound their sins by sins by the sacrilege of receiving the holy Eucharist.
"So, if they were allowed to join the procession to receive a blessing ‘by the priest or deacon’ they would not stand out as one who is in a state of mortal sin. For that is the only reason they would not receive, being that the fasting rule of one hour is almost impossible to break.
"I have come to the conclusion that many Catholics just stop going to Mass for this reason.
“Many people need a reason for not receiving the Eucharist on a Sunday morning and at least a three-hour fast would allow some excuse. The good Catholics would have a deeper respect for just what they are doing and the sacrifice of fasting is a good way to inspire respect.”
I agree with our reader that even those who are unable to receive Communion should attend Mass; indeed, they retain the same obligation to do so as all Catholics.
However, I would point out that St. Leonard’s work was written at a time when the practice of frequent and daily Communion was quite rare, even among vowed religious and pious Catholics. Therefore it cannot be supposed that the object of his work was particularly aimed at those unable to receive Communion.
Indeed, for those in such a situation the principal grace of the Mass would be that of conversion: that is, finding the strength to remove the obstacles to their being able to approach the altar and receive the bread of life. This is true both of those who are afflicted by sin as well as those, such as a non-Catholic attending Mass with a spouse, who cannot receive Communion for other reasons.
In some cases a blessing might help such people attend Mass by avoiding an embarrassing moment. But it could also have exactly the opposite effect by singling them out for a blessing when others receive Communion. Likewise, this situation is more often than not provoked by the bad habit in many parishes of insisting on an orderly pew-by-pew communion procession when a bit of confusion would be enough to help such people pass unnoticed.
In other cases, human frailty being what it is, the possibility of receiving a blessing in lieu of Communion might actually satisfy some people so that they never actually take the plunge of regularizing their situation before God and the Church.
All in all, anecdotal evidence could probably be presented for all sides, and the question should eventually be decided by Church authorities on the basis of solid theological arguments.
There are good arguments for restoring the three-hour fast, and our reader gives some of them. Some bishops proposed this a few years ago while others objected that it would make some successful pastoral initiatives, such as lunch-hour Masses in urban centers, almost impossible.
Another reader, a priest, asked, “What if a person coming for a blessing during Communion time is living in sin and a person who knows that person and sees that person thinks that the person is about to receive Communion? Since the communicant’s back is to the people in the pews, could not this situation be a source of scandal?”
I would say that if the possibility of receiving a blessing is a known option, then a person who is unable to see whether or not someone has communicated should in all charity grant them the benefit of the doubt and not cede to the temptations of rash judgment.
Even if such a person believed that the other had received Communion, then, once more in charity, they should rejoice that the sinner has found a way to make his peace with God and is now able to approach the altar rail.
Except in cases of notorious public sins, the nature of which require some form of public reconciliation, we should respect the other’s conscience and refrain from making judgments as to the state of their souls. It is true that pastoral practice usually advises some people who have been reconciled to attend Mass where they are unknown so as to avoid rash judgments. But even if this advice is not followed, then our tendency should always be toward charitable thoughts.
 
I am sorry but I cannot understand what you are saying. Your words to me are a bit confusing. Just to let you know that we have the same Church. The Orthodox Church is Catholic as well. John Paul II calls us the second lung. I will quote him. " The Church must breathe again her 2 lungs. " Notice that one lung is not better than the other. No the Popes consider us as Catholic but of the Eastern Tradition. We have authority in this as well. The Eastern Church and the Catholic Church make up Christ’s one Catholic Church. Our system of theology may be different than the West in some areas but by in large we speak the same words. Any differences in each Church can help the other to better understand God and Church more fully. What we are missing you have. And what you are lacking we have. This is how God makes as a unit or as we call it The Body Of Christ. The Catholic Church is incomplete without us. And the same can be said for us. We the Orthodox are incomplete without you. Soon you will see John Paul II’s dream of a united Catholic Church be realised and even now it is coming to that effect. God Bless!
The communion between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox is very close… very profound…but not yet full. So not yet…but you are “sister Churches”…and the hope is that the union will be restored “so that” the Church can breath “fully” with both lungs…not only the Roman Church and the Eastern Catholic Churches in full communion …but also our Sister Churches of the East…the Eastern Orthodox Churches…but we are no there yet…hopefully though…sooner than later…

In any case what was quoted above was from the Catechism issued by Pope John Paul II …so is very very binding on the Catholic Church. Missing Mass on Sundays and Holy Days…are grave matter for mortal sin…and on is to goto confession first…if one has mortal sin.

(I assume the Orthodox have something similar if not the same…particularly about mortal sin and Communion…)
 
David, John Paul II was referring in his quote to the Eastern CATHOLIC churches (Byzantine CATHOLIC, Maronite CATHOLIC, Coptic CATHOLIC etc) - in other words to those Eastern churches that are in full communion with the Pope and accept him, above all other Bishops, Patriarchs, Metropolitans or others holding religious office, as their supreme spiritual head on earth. It is these Eastern Catholics that are indeed the ‘other lung’, the first lung being the Western (Latin) Catholics.

The Greek Orthodox, as admirable a faith as it is, are NOT in full communion with the Pope and do NOT accept his authority in the manner I’ve described. They are NOT the ‘other lung’. Their theology is not just different, but entirely contradictory even from that of the Eastern Catholics in some ways, for example on the critical point of Papal authority I’ve mentioned.
I disagree with you. John Paul II is referring to us the Orthodox. You do not know your Pope to well. He is addressing those words for the Orthodox. If what you said is correct then John Paul II’s words are meaningless. For why would he say them since the Eastern Catholic Church is in Communion with him. No you are not reading his words correctly. He is addressing them to the Orthodox. We are in fact in Communion with you anyway. But the Holy Father’s words mean that for some reason we believe we are not in communion. In reality this communion really did not break up. Men decided that this was so. What the Pope want is to return back to the original relationship he had with the Orthodox before the unfortunate breakup. This original relationship is what he meant when he said the church must breathe again her 2 lungs. It has nothing to do with the Eastern Catholics. Since God believes the 2 Churches are in Communion why all the fuss about Eastern Catholics! You cannot justify Communion because the Eastern Catholics have decided to on paper to be in Communion with Rome. That does not make sense before God. The Orthodox and the Catholic Church are in fact in Communion with each other. No other statement will correct it. But because of unfortunate circumstances from the past the 2 Churches believe this not to be so. My arguement is that this Communion between the Orthodox and the Catholic Church must be resolved in an 8th Ecumenical Council to prove that this Communion was always there and men of the past be it Catholic or Orthodox distorted it to what it is today. It must be corrected. That is what John Paul II wants! God Bless!
 
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