Would studying the Catechism of the Council of Trent qualify for the Year of Faith indulgences?

[flameburns623]

Don’t have the text of the announcement of indulgences before me. Would devout study of the Faith in any form qualify for the indulgences or are the Year of Faith indulgences applicable exclusively to the CCC or the documents of Vatican II. If the latter . . . . are other indulgences applicable?

 

[PJM]

=flameburns623;9905906]Don’t have the text of the announcement of indulgences before me. Would devout study of the Faith in any form qualify for the indulgences or are the Year of Faith indulgences applicable exclusively to the CCC or the documents of Vatican II. If the latter . . . . are other indulgences applicable?

Not in any documents that I have seen

But it’s a GREAT idea anyway,

 

[Aelred_Minor]

It would have to be a document actually mentioned for an indulgence. The CCC and Roman Catechism are entirely different documents in both style and content, even though they follow a similar broad outline of topics and of course there are some quotes from the RC in the CCC.

But it seems to me that in an informal way studying the Roman Catechism would be a very good activity for the Year of Faith.

 

[Joe_5859]

Here is the Decree:

vatican.va/roman_curia/tribunals/apost_penit/documents/rc_trib_appen_doc_20120914_annus-fidei_en.html

It mentions that a plenary indulgence can be gained specifically:

a. every time they take part in at least three homilies preached or attend at least three lectures on the Proceedings of the Second Vatican Council and on the Articles of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in any church or suitable place;

It’s not just devout study of the Catechism, but actually attending three workshops/lectures/discussions on it. And it does not mention the Catechism of the Council of Trent.

I would encourage you to read throug the Catechism during the Year of Faith and then read through the Catechism of the Council of Trent in 2016 for it’s 450th anniversary.

 

[Don_Jackson]

Don’t have the text of the announcement of indulgences before me. Would devout study of the Faith in any form qualify for the indulgences or are the Year of Faith indulgences applicable exclusively to the CCC or the documents of Vatican II. If the latter . . . . are other indulgences applicable?

Do everything we do for the glory of God, not for indulgences. Indulgences should only be a nice grace, not specifically sought, but as the result of righteous actions.

 

[PJM]

=Aelred Minor;9906085]It would have to be a document actually mentioned for an indulgence. The CCC and Roman Catechism are entirely different documents in both style and content, even though they follow a similar broad outline of topics and of course there are some quotes from the RC in the CCC.

But it seems to me that in an informal way studying the Roman Catechism would be a very good activity for the Year of Faith.

Some “sage advice”

Having READ both the 1992, and the 1994 Catechisms and the Q & A Catechesim as well, I STRONGLY recommend the NEWEST form. That recently released by the USCCB; American Bishops:

It’s called United States Catholic Catechism for Adults

It is MUCH easier to read and comprhend.

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

www.usccb.org/

Should get you access to it.

 

[flameburns623]

Do everything we do for the glory of God, not for indulgences. Indulgences should only be a nice grace, not specifically sought, but as the result of righteous actions.

How about doing things for BOTH MOTIVES?

 

[flameburns623]

Not in any documents that I have seen

But it’s a GREAT idea anyway,

Thanks for extending genuine encouragement to a traditional Catholic! And for staying on-topic.

 

[Pug]

Do everything we do for the glory of God, not for indulgences. Indulgences should only be a nice grace, not specifically sought, but as the result of righteous actions.

I suggest gaining the indulgence as an act of charity for a soul in Purgatory. I think it is a super idea for this time/year.

 

[IesumPerMariam]

Do everything we do for the glory of God, not for indulgences. Indulgences should only be a nice grace, not specifically sought, but as the result of righteous actions.

Nonsense. Indulgences can be used to relieve the poor souls from the temporal punishments of purgatory, or to minimize our own time in purgatory. They are a most wonderful gift given us by God through His holy Church that enable us to experience the Beatific Vision sooner.

And, to be gained, an indulgence must be specifically sought. From the Code of Canon Law (emphases mine):

Can. 996 § 2. To gain [indulgences], however, the person who is capable must have at least the general intention of gaining them, and must fulfil the prescribed works at the time and in the manner determined by the terms of the grant.

 

[jwinch2]

One idea I have seen done in the past is to study the CCC side by side with the Trent Catechism in an effort to draw comparisons and links between the two. Since the two are written in such a different format, it is often difficult to link the two up.

Just a thought.

Peace,

 

[Don_Jackson]

Nonsense. Indulgences can be used to relieve the poor souls from the temporal punishments of purgatory, or to minimize our own time in purgatory. They are a most wonderful gift given us by God through His holy Church that enable us to experience the Beatific Vision sooner.

And, to be gained, an indulgence must be specifically sought. From the Code of Canon Law (emphases mine):

Oh my, we mustn’t argue with canon law!

 

[IesumPerMariam]

Oh my, we mustn’t argue with canon law!

If we don’t like Canon Law, we could turn the the Ordinary Magisterium. HH Pope Paul VI, in his Apostolic Constitution Indulgentiarum Doctrina:

In an indulgence in fact, the Church, making use of its power as minister of the Redemption of Christ, not only prays but by an authoritative intervention dispenses to the faithful suitably disposed the treasury of satisfaction which Christ and the saints won for the remission of temporal punishment.

The aim pursued by ecclesiastical authority in granting indulgences is not only that of helping the faithful to expiate the punishment due sin but also that of urging them to perform works of piety, penitence and charity—particularly those which lead to growth in faith and which favor the common good.

And if the faithful offer indulgences in suffrage for the dead, they cultivate charity in an excellent way and while raising their minds to heaven, they bring a wiser order into the things of this world.

…

The Church also in our days then invites all its sons to ponder and meditate well on how the use of indulgences benefits their lives and indeed all Christian society.

To recall briefly the most important considerations, this salutary practice teaches us in the first place how it is “sad and bitter to have abandoned … the Lord God.” Indeed the faithful when they acquire indulgences understand that by their own powers they could not remedy the harm they have done to themselves and to the entire community by their sin, and they are therefore stirred to a salutary humility.

Furthermore, the use of indulgences shows us how closely we are united to each other in Christ, and how the supernatural life of each can benefit others so that these also may be more easily and more closely united with the Father. Therefore the use of indulgences effectively influences charity in us and demonstrates that charity in an outstanding manner when we offer indulgences as assistance to our brothers who rest in Christ.

Likewise, the religious practice of indulgences reawakens trust and hope in a full reconciliation with God the Father, but in such a way as will not justify any negligence nor in any way diminish the effort to acquire the dispositions required for full communion with God. Although indulgences are in fact free gifts, nevertheless they are granted for the living as well as for the dead only on determined conditions. To acquire them, it is indeed required on the one hand that prescribed works be performed, and on the other that the faithful have the necessary dispositions, that is to say, that they love God, detest sin, place their trust in the merits of Christ and believe firmly in the great assistance they derive from the Communion of Saints.

Or the Ecumenical Council of Trent, Session XXV:

Whereas the power of conferring Indulgences was granted by Christ to the Church; and she has, even in the most ancient times, used the said power, delivered unto her of God; the sacred holy Synod teaches, and enjoins, that the use of Indulgences, for the Christian people most salutary, and approved of by the authority of sacred Councils, is to be retained in the Church; and It condemns with anathema those who either assert, that they are useless; or who deny that there is in the Church the power of granting them.

While Canon Law may indeed be fallible, both the above are infallible teachings of Holy Mother Church.

 

[Joe_5859]

Thanks for extending genuine encouragement to a traditional Catholic! And for staying on-topic.

Posting a link to the actual decree on the indulgence and quoting the relevant portion thereof wasn’t on-topic?

 

[Rich_C]

You could attend at least three workshops on the CCC and still make a private study of the Roman Catechism.

If I could find workshops on the CCC I’d be glad to go. I read it all a few years ago and only understood a fraction of it. I plan to read the whole Baltimore Catechism #3 for the Year of Faith and try to meet one of the other criteria for the indulgence.