WOuld the world be better off ig Christians Jews and Musilms were together?

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I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.

Would the world be better off (in the long run) if we were all together and had a unified message to the secular world?

I think the answer is yes.

So what prevents it? Is it internal politics?
 
There have been places in the world where they actually did live together in harmony for long periods of time…I watched a program Rick Steves Europe one time where in Spain they did just that .not sure of anywhere nowadays though
 
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I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.
Would the world be better off (in the long run) if we were all together and had a unified message to the secular world?
I think the answer is yes.
So what prevents it?
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Original Sin.

But the fallen human nature which was redeemed by Christ’s suffering, death and Resurrection still has free-will, and despite Christ’s clearly having founded His Church, many others have chosen to make their own religions and rules.

To “worship the same God” is a false supposition re Jews and Muslims, versus real Catholics, as The Blessed Trinity is unrecognised by them, as are Her dogmas and doctrines, and Christ’s Church is rejected/ignored by most non-Catholic Christians.
 
We currently are all living together in the U.S. and parts of Europe and probably Canada.
 
Frankenfurter said:
I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.
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You can read all the threads you want, it doesn’t make it true. While it is true that there is only one actual God to worship, in reality, many “worship” a god of their own invention. There is one president of the United States, but if you ask ten people who he “is”, you will likely get ten different answers, and none of them will be completely “true”. A better question would be, would the world be better off if everyone worshiped the God that actually exists in reality, as opposed to their own subjective idea of who God is? Of course it would be. But being made in the image and likeness of God, we all have that annoying little attachment to our own subjective ideas…i.e. the illusion that we are God. So such unity isn’t going to happen any time soon.

Thankfully, the God that actually exists, as revealed in the Incarnation of Jesus, loves us anyway, beyond our wildest dreams.
 
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Why can’t we ALL be together and work and live in a unified way?

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Because of past history and the present tension between the groups existing in the world today. It is difficult to work with someone who is threatening to chop off your head. I am not too enthusiastic about working with “people” who invade a school in Beslan and end up slaughtering hundreds of innocent school children.
 
Frankenfurter said:
I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.

Would the world be better off (in the long run) if we were all together and had a unified message to the secular world?

I think the answer is yes.

So what prevents it? Is it internal politics?
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The simple answer is education.

As adults it is difficult to change our views of reality, we were educated to segregate, not integrate.

Let us bend all our energies therefore to the education of children to forgo their differences but rather concentrate on collaborating with anyone who is a human being to bring about an ever advancing spiritual civilisation with a world-embracing vision, not a world dividing one.

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Servant19 said:
The simple answer is education.
As adults it is difficult to change our views of reality, we were educated to segregate, not integrate.
Let us bend all our energies therefore to the education of children to forgo their differences but rather concentrate on collaborating with anyone who is a human being to bring about an ever advancing spiritual civilisation with a world-embracing vision, not a world dividing one.
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I’m sorry but “education” is too simple an answer. Educate whose and what values? This is a real problem for public schools in the West that have to cater to any and every holiday in the world while playing down its own Christian identity. Integration, when there is a conflict of values, will bend to the most aggressive and vocal ideology. Christian values have been so watered down, they have little to no clout. The big mouths on the block are getting their way big time.
 
zamyrabyrd said:
I’m sorry but “education” is too simple an answer. Educate whose and what values? This is a real problem for public schools in the West that have to cater to any and every holiday in the world while playing down its own Christian identity. Integration, when there is a conflict of values, will bend to the most aggressive and vocal ideology. Christian values have been so watered down, they have little to no clout. The big mouths on the block are getting their way big time.
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There is no conflict of values between the major global religions.

The only way to educate our children is on the values that stress humility and collaboration, understanding and seeking harmony.

There is no humility in conflict. If we teach our children to assess the realities of a community, the forces at play which are constructive and the forces that are destructive, then they have a chance to collaborate on means by which they can resolve and solve the destructive forces.
Effective reflection on action, effective consultation without attachment to ones owns suggestions, and effective humility to LEARN when a suggestion that is not yours is implemented without the “I told you so” if things don’t work out as the community intended, but we all make mistakes TOGETHER, we all learn TOGETHER, we all plan TOGETHER, we all advance TOGETHER, we are all humble TOGETHER, without seeking to advance ourselves to be better than anyone else…

…then we have a chance…

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Servant19 said:
Hi Tom,

Which major global religion allows abortion?

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From what I have read: But please check at the link below or other source:

United Church of Christ
The Muslim law permits abortion in the first seven weeks of pregnancy
Judaism permits abortion before the 40th day: Talmud, Yevomot 69a states that prior to the 40th day a fetus is “considered to be mere water”
Unitarian Universalism
pewforum.org/2013/01/16/religious-groups-official-positions-on-abortion/
 
Frankenfurter said:
I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.

Would the world be better off (in the long run) if we were all together and had a unified message to the secular world?

I think the answer is yes.

So what prevents it? Is it internal politics?
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Yes For sure, Man prevents it, for whatsoever reason they choose. 👍

Regards Tony
 
Tomdstone said:
From what I have read: But please check at the link below or other source:

United Church of Christ
The Muslim law permits abortion in the first seven weeks of pregnancy
Judaism permits abortion before the 40th day: Talmud, Yevomot 69a states that prior to the 40th day a fetus is “considered to be mere water”
Unitarian Universalism
pewforum.org/2013/01/16/religious-groups-official-positions-on-abortion/
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So why not go back to basics with our children and teach them about the necessary responsibilities to rear a child?

As I said it does require a bit of humility from all. Does the autonomous self-regulation of abortion except for severe cases (which can be taken case by case) really harm most average potential parents?

Is unprotected sex so important for those religions that do not ban abortion, that it cannot be overcome?

Let us work together with humility. Science is an important starting point for commonality with these issues.

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Servant19 said:
So why not go back to basics with our children and teach them about the necessary responsibilities to rear a child?
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Because some people believe that a child can be reared in a SS marriage just as well as in a traditional marriage. So with some religions allowing SS marriage even for their clergy, while others condemn it as sinful, there is a difference in values there.
 
Tomdstone said:
Because some people believe that a child can be reared in a SS marriage just as well as in a traditional marriage. So with some religions allowing SS marriage even for their clergy, while others condemn it as sinful, there is a difference in values there.
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So let us all be humble and assess for a time if this approach reduces the disease spreading problem of promiscuity?

I sincerely believe that if children are taught from early childhood with loving discipline the importance of chastity and the scientifically proven problems associated with promiscuity we would have plenty of optimistic progress.

There are some things in society that can be empirically proven to be A+B = C. Some things are not, so we must, with unity, carry out what the majority recommend after careful consultation and exploration of the subject and then learn from it. Look at the outcomes and with humility adjust if needed.

Science can be an important tool for the spiritual healing of our planet and mankind. Science can bring religions together if there is humility and a willingness to learn based on clear and empirically evident outcomes.

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Frankenfurter said:
I have read on many threads that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.

Would the world be better off (in the long run) if we were all together and had a unified message to the secular world?

I think the answer is yes.

So what prevents it? Is it internal politics?
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That’s a beautiful thought! I think if man really wants to do something he can. We can fly to the moon and have achieved so much in many fields together.

The first step would be to accept each other’s basic beliefs in one God and not insist on following the laws or traditions of each religion.

For instance we read from the Bible and Quran in our places of worship and no harm is done. But we don’t follow shariah law or the customs of other faiths just a basic belief in one God and it works and brings us together.
 
That may happen when Jesus Christ [peace be upon him] returns; other than that, I don’t see it happening. We have differences and I’m OK with that.
 
drac16 said:
That may happen when Jesus Christ [peace be upon him] returns; other than that, I don’t see it happening. We have differences and I’m OK with that.
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To me this is together if we at least accept as you have just done 👍

May God always be with you and Regards Tony
 
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