Would you invite a non-Catholic Youth Group to a Catholic one?

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The problem with setting up teens by “invite” is that reciprocity will be expected. Many Fundamentalist/Evangelicals, and I don’t know if this applies in this particular case, tend to put other faith kids on the line by challenging them with scriptural reference. They also tend to only accept Bible as the authority, not some old single guy that lives the plush life in Rome. That’s many of their perspectives, no offense to our beloved Holy Father - particularly Blessed John Paul the Great, Pope. So, when the Catholic children/teens, take their counter parts up on their invitation, many of those Catholics teens will later find themselves swimming in a lake of confusion. The playing ground on this is not equal, mostly unfair.

Teenagers need to be protected from other faiths, including our own. It is objectionable to allow potential proselytizing, even if they don’t realize they’re doing it. Having grown up in a fundamentalist world with emphasis on evangelism, I find this entire situation to be objectionable and potentially grounds for relieving the Youth Director and any other adult participating in advancing this cause without prior written consent of the bishop, maybe even the U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops. I lost friends while trying to protect 11 year old boys from a non-denominational Youth Minister that was advancing his image in his congregation by telling lies about how he had reach and touched the hearts of all those children. It swept over the congregation like a title wave an no one objected to it when confronted. Most every child on the football team were actively involved in their own churches. Some were Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, and one or two Muslims.

If the children and their parents approve of allowing their teen attend, their should be no strings attached. I will not allow my children to participate in anything that is not similar or the exact same as our Church. We allowed our daughter and son attend a local Episcopal VBS. But it was exactly the same one our parish next door put on. And the Parish priest objects to all the liberal stuff happening to the point that their own Bishop has filed a law suit against them. They closed their school. They’re under attack by their own people. The lady that took our girl to VBS is a fallen away Catholic, elderly. Interesting conversation, similar to my history. We teach our children correctly. But this was a completely different scenario. Theology of the Body is great, but unless those particular children, individually are parent approved attending with no strings attached, then fine. Otherwise, I have issues with it. And I’m a very evangelical Catholic that practices my faith similar to my former fundamentalist ways, short of proselytizing.
 
=mdstanzel;8073383]The problem with setting up teens by “invite” is that reciprocity will be expected. Many Fundamentalist/Evangelicals, and I don’t know if this applies in this particular case, tend to put other faith kids on the line by challenging them with scriptural reference. They also tend to only accept Bible as the authority, not some old single guy that lives the plush life in Rome. That’s many of their perspectives, no offense to our beloved Holy Father - particularly Blessed John Paul the Great, Pope. So, when the Catholic children/teens, take their counter parts up on their invitation, many of those Catholics teens will later find themselves swimming in a lake of confusion. The playing ground on this is not equal, mostly unfair.
Teenagers need to be protected from other faiths, including our own. It is objectionable to allow potential proselytizing, even if they don’t realize they’re doing it. Having grown up in a fundamentalist world with emphasis on evangelism, I find this entire situation to be objectionable and potentially grounds for relieving the Youth Director and any other adult participating in advancing this cause without prior written consent of the bishop, maybe even the U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops. I lost friends while trying to protect 11 year old boys from a non-denominational Youth Minister that was advancing his image in his congregation by telling lies about how he had reach and touched the hearts of all those children. It swept over the congregation like a title wave an no one objected to it when confronted. Most every child on the football team were actively involved in their own churches. Some were Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, and one or two Muslims.
If the children and their parents approve of allowing their teen attend, their should be no strings attached. I will not allow my children to participate in anything that is not similar or the exact same as our Church. We allowed our daughter and son attend a local Episcopal VBS. But it was exactly the same one our parish next door put on. And the Parish priest objects to all the liberal stuff happening to the point that their own Bishop has filed a law suit against them. They closed their school. They’re under attack by their own people. The lady that took our girl to VBS is a fallen away Catholic, elderly. Interesting conversation, similar to my history. We teach our children correctly. But this was a completely different scenario. Theology of the Body is great, but unless those particular children, individually are parent approved attending with no strings attached, then fine. Otherwise, I have issues with it. And I’m a very evangelical Catholic that practices my faith similar to my former fundamentalist ways, short of proselytizing.
My dear friend in Christ; protecting is fine; sheilding ???

These are teenage kids as I recall. Having taught kids for a GREAT Many years I have found Openness and candor to be the “best cure.”

Before going to their “service” prepare the kids on what to expect; how to act and what the Major differences are in the comparitive faith beliefs. AND Explain again the Uniquiness and benefits of being a Informed, Practicing catholic. The TRUTH along with the Holy Spirit are on our side.

Trying to “hide” other faiths from kids is like trying hide the " Birds and Bees" facts. It’s just not goanna happen.

God less,
Pat
 
My dear friend in Christ; protecting is fine; sheilding ???

These are teenage kids as I recall. Having taught kids for a GREAT Many years I have found Openness and candor to be the “best cure.”

Before going to their “service” prepare the kids on what to expect; how to act and what the Major differences are in the comparitive faith beliefs. AND Explain again the Uniquiness and benefits of being a Informed, Practicing catholic. The TRUTH along with the Holy Spirit are on our side.

Trying to “hide” other faiths from kids is like trying hide the " Birds and Bees" facts. It’s just not goanna happen.

God less,
Pat
Hide??? :confused: How twisted of an individual are you for assuming so much?

My family comes from a Fundamental Evangelical faith. I am basically a former minister. I know what goes on in some of those faiths. I used to be the one converting your children. My children get enough fundamentalist flack from our family. I have a huge Protestant “clergy” family, bishops, deacons, preachers. Try not to chastise me for trying to knock some common sense into well meaning people’s heads.

And you wonder why so man kids fall away from the Catholic Church. Case and point with your response.
 
=mdstanzel;8076797]Hide??? :confused: How twisted of an individual are you for assuming so much?
My family comes from a Fundamental Evangelical faith. I am basically a former minister. I know what goes on in some of those faiths. I used to be the one converting your children. My children get enough fundamentalist flack from our family. I have a huge Protestant “clergy” family, bishops, deacons, preachers. Try not to chastise me for trying to knock some common sense into well meaning people’s heads.
And you wonder why so man kids fall away from the Catholic Church. Case and point with your response.
My dear BROTHER in Christ;

This my friend this is DIALOG; not personal in any respect from my perspective.

I’m fully aware of the GRAVE responsibilty we parents have with our God given children. And THE PARENTS RULE:thumbsup:

Your background adds much insite to your comments. THANKS,

If ever I can be of help just let me know.

God Bless you and your’s
Pat
 
My dear BROTHER in Christ;

This my friend this is DIALOG; not personal in any respect from my perspective.

I’m fully aware of the GRAVE responsibilty we parents have with our God given children. And THE PARENTS RULE:thumbsup:

Your background adds much insite to your comments. THANKS,

If ever I can be of help just let me know.

God Bless you and your’s
Pat
Not to sound rude, but if I need help with my situation, I would consult my pastor. I am close enough and trusting enough to trust him now.

As far as our family situation goes. I use my personal experiences to help other in their time of need whenever possible. Sometimes the “help” is not welcomed, which I understand. However, I will continue as best I can in future matters attempt to “assist.” I have a ministry, particularly youth, background. And dealing with Protestant family lends me insight on the proselytizing aspects of certain groups of Christians. Futher, in order to help prepare my children for future challenges to their own faith, I have nightly devotions, bible stories, life lessons, Catholic teaching, all combined. I teach them about other faith traditions and explain what’s wrong with those teachings. I teach them the history of salvation history, particularly ancient Christianity in light of cultural adversities and such. I do all of this only appropriate to their ability to understand, in charity, with directions to pray for them.

This is how I am preparing them for visits with aunts, uncles, cousins and particularly my MIL, who repeatedly tries to proselytize me upon every single visit. My wife is sick of it and has avoided visiting as a result. We will NOT leave out children with them for any length of time. If we discover they are instilling fear of losing their souls for being Catholic, then all visitations will require supervision and we’ll engage in apologetics similar to how we did as Protestants. But our methods will be charitable. We would only do that to protect the children.
 
Okay, a good chunk of the kids the youth group where I volunteer aren’t Catholic, including one of the volunteers, who even goes to daily Mass (doesn’t take communion!) We even invite non-Catholics to Kairos, the retreat we prize. I find it to be a great way to introduce non-Catholics to Catholicism- and none of them have been anti-Catholic. The girl who led my small group on the retreat is a Baptist! And no, she was NOT a fire-breathing anti-Catholic.
 
Not to sound rude, but if I need help with my situation, I would consult my pastor. I am close enough and trusting enough to trust him now.

As far as our family situation goes. I use my personal experiences to help other in their time of need whenever possible. Sometimes the “help” is not welcomed, which I understand. However, I will continue as best I can in future matters attempt to “assist.” I have a ministry, particularly youth, background. And dealing with Protestant family lends me insight on the proselytizing aspects of certain groups of Christians. Futher, in order to help prepare my children for future challenges to their own faith, I have nightly devotions, bible stories, life lessons, Catholic teaching, all combined. I teach them about other faith traditions and explain what’s wrong with those teachings. I teach them the history of salvation history, particularly ancient Christianity in light of cultural adversities and such. I do all of this only appropriate to their ability to understand, in charity, with directions to pray for them.

This is how I am preparing them for visits with aunts, uncles, cousins and particularly my MIL, who repeatedly tries to proselytize me upon every single visit. My wife is sick of it and has avoided visiting as a result. We will NOT leave out children with them for any length of time. If we discover they are instilling fear of losing their souls for being Catholic, then all visitations will require supervision and we’ll engage in apologetics similar to how we did as Protestants. But our methods will be charitable. We would only do that to protect the children.
God Bless brother:)
Pat
 
The nights will consist of;
  • Game.
  • Talk.
  • Theology of the Body for youth on DVD.
  • Men’s/Women’s groups.
  • Praise & Worship.
.
TOB at the first meeting? Talk about jumping in to the deep end! I know you aren’t the leader on this, but I would strongly recommend you have a night or two with just get to know you activites, a discussion of scripture, and praise & worship before you bring in TOB.

First concern is that even in single sex groups, discussion of that topic is hard with people you don’t know well. I do understand that the kids from the different churches may go to school together, play on teams together etc. But they also might not. Particularly if lots of your kids go to a Catholic school.

Second concern is that this topic is sensitive for many parents–particularly those who are practicing Christians. Permission slips and perhaps even a quick overview for parents before you start would be the best way to defuse any concern and keep the experiment on a positive level.

In closing I’d say that, especially if this starts over the summer, give at least a few nights of more casual meetings before you dig into a deep topic. 🙂
 
also has anyone considered that TOB may be extremely objectionable to Baptists?

I am the son of a Baptist Deacon and I can tell you for a fact that my father would find TOB extremely offensive for several reasons.

Has anyone considered this? Don’t get me wrong, I believe and agree with everything the Church teaches (that’s why I want to enter it), but this situation just sounds really messy and difficult.
 
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