Would you prefer a more religious society if it meant a plurality of religions?

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Would you be willing to prefer it if the developed West were a place in which religions, not only Christianity, penetrated to the very heart of life and society for everyone? A safer, humbler, more spiritual land made so by Christianity, Buddhism, Islam…and reversing our secular, money driven, violence driven way of life.
 
Compared to secularism, yes, but that is if we can avoid thinking all religions are equally valid.
 
Yes but the ultimate goal in creating that society must be to form a Catholic society. It would be a step in the right direction but it would not be the ultimate goal.
 
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I want to live in a Christian country. No separation of Church and State. Just to see if it works. I don’t think it would be anywhere as bad as an Islamic country to live in.
 
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Only if the religions would tolerate and respect each other and the people who practice them.
 
The problem is, I’m not sure if such a thing is actually practical.

All societies are based on something. If we truly had a plurality of religion, where no one religion was the majority, what would the society use to base societal morals, values, ethics on?

Most likely, they would still default to a secular set of values, in order to not offend anyone.
 
🤷‍♂️ I don’t know if we could all come to agreement on what laws we should have or what rights we possess.
 
goodcatholic said:
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I want to live in a Christian country. No separation of Church and State. Just to see if it works. I don’t think it would be anywhere as bad as an Islamic country to live in.
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Well… that’s because Christianity has really ALWAYS had separation of Church and State. Yes, the Church was involved with the leaders, because the leaders were practicing Catholics, but the Church did not run nations (Papal States is the only real exception for a NUMBER of complicated reasons).

But in general, Christianity has always understood that there needs to be civil authority and ecclesiastical authority, and that they are separate - even if close partners.

But in Islam, there is NO separation at all. Even at the height of Christendom, we never had the total integration of Church and State like Islam calls for.

Christianity and Islam have philosophical differences when it comes to the relationship of clergy and civil authorities.
 
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I honestly don’t think that’s extreme at all. However, I would probably settle for a “de Valera”-esque society. Where the church is recognized as having a very important role and in fact works with the government towards common goals. But a society which does not simply bow to the church and still guarantees religious liberty for all. This society would also outlaw things which are abominations to God such as abortion, pornography, mastaurbation (don’t ask how that law would be enforced), contraception, homosexual intercourse, extramarital sex, and the most sinful offense of all: pineapple pizza. It would be wise for that society to abolish public education and to give the Catholic Church control over the education of the youth. That society would also have to uphold the rights of the American Revolution, such as life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness (provided it is morally acceptable), freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of press, and etc. Christianity should promote freedom because it should follow in Christ’s example. Christ died on the cross for our freedom freedom death and sin.

Should I run for President?
 
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Christphr said:
Would you be willing to prefer it if the developed West were a place in which religions, not only Christianity, penetrated to the very heart of life and society for everyone? A safer, humbler, more spiritual land made so by Christianity, Buddhism, Islam…and reversing our secular, money driven, violence driven way of life.
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I prefer the great trials necessary to achieve perfection: “The Church, and through her the world, will not be perfected in glory without great trials.” The world must know the Holy Trinity.
John 15:20 “Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you: if they have kept my word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for my name’s sake: because they know not him who sent me.”
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Catechism
769 "The Church . . . will receive its perfection only in the glory of heaven,"179 at the time of Christ’s glorious return. Until that day, "the Church progresses on her pilgrimage amidst this world’s persecutions and God’s consolations."180 Here below she knows that she is in exile far from the Lord, and longs for the full coming of the Kingdom, when she will "be united in glory with her king."181 The Church, and through her the world, will not be perfected in glory without great trials. Only then will "all the just from the time of Adam, ‘from Abel, the just one, to the last of the elect,’ . . . be gathered together in the universal Church in the Father’s presence."182
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But a society which does not simply bow to the church and still guarantees religious liberty for all. This society would also outlaw things which are abominations to God
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I hope you realize those two are incompatible.

One man’s religious liberty is another man’s abomination unto God.

Until God comes down and makes clear unambiguously what He considers to be abomination, then any attempts to legislate away ‘abominations’ would by necessity mean imposing a particular religious view and denying religious liberty to others.
 
What I really mean is freedom from government persecution because of religion.
 
I would prefer a completely secular society where people are free to practice their religion, so long as it stayed out of public affairs.
 
Except that you’ve posited a government that persecutes people who don’t conform to your religious practices.

People who masturbate and use contraception, for example.
 
But that would be terrible. Politics without morality devolves into a dictatorship rather quickly.
 
Morality doesn’t need religion. There are hundreds of ethical theories that don’t rely about religion.
 
And they are all wrong in one way or another. Catholicism poseses the best moral foundation.
 
If you mean on pizza you will be banned from my Christian Minecraft server.
 
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