Would you support mandatory tracking devices on all new cars?

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Mandatory tracking devices could help a lot in law enforcement, but could go against one’s rights. Personally, I would strongly support such a law. We need better cooperation between the good of society and individual rights!

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Mandatory tracking devices could help a lot in law enforcement, but could go against one’s rights. Personally, I would strongly support such a law. We need better cooperation between the good of society and individual rights!

(LOVE, brothers and sisters!)
OH…PULEEEZE! Bob…

You would probably support government TV surveillance cameras in every room of our homes…

Let’s leave the tracking devices out of our cars so we can have a little privacy.,OK
 
Mandatory tracking devices could help a lot in law enforcement, but could go against one’s rights. Personally, I would strongly support such a law. We need better cooperation between the good of society and individual rights!

(LOVE, brothers and sisters!)
Mandatory tracking devices on all cars stomps on individual rights.

No, I would not be for stomping on our individual rights.
 
Absolutely not. That’s one step WAY too far.

The insurance company “optional” good driver device thing scares me enough.
 
Off the top of my head, I don’t have a problem with it. They’ve been using black boxes in airplanes for years and they’re a very useful data tool for legal, liability & insurance purposes. aka: it’s a money saver.

My philosophy is: if the government is going to exploit you, you’re dead either way. If you want a government that is as least dangerous as possible, it’s more effective to ramp up means of making the government increasingly transparent than it is to make it impotent. Making it impotent is one way to help ensure your security, and it does indeed work, but its a much cruder tool that allows a lot of good meat to get carved off in the process.
 
Mandatory tracking devices on all cars stomps on individual rights.

No, I would not be for stomping on our individual rights.
Even for the greater good of society? How is having a tracking device on your car an invasion of your personal rights?

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Even for the greater good of society? How is having a tracking device on your car an invasion of your personal rights?

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It allows them to know the full extent of your schedule, and to track your movements, determining patterns of behavior.

I am 100% against this.
 
Even for the greater good of society? How is having a tracking device on your car an invasion of your personal rights?

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In the long run it would end up harming society. When in history has a lack of freedom gone hand in hand with the good of society?
 
It allows them to know the full extent of your schedule, and to track your movements, determining patterns of behavior.

I am 100% against this.
Why would they seek this information from you if are a law abiding citizen?
 
Well many new cars already have the tracking devices built in and the government can get the records from the companies with a warrant or subpoena. They also have black boxes they can access with a warrant or subpoena to see how fast you were going in a accident.
Many people voluntarily carry a portable tracking devices called a cell phone or smart phone.

Privacy is an illusion in the 21st century.

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Why would they seek this information from you if are a law abiding citizen?
Obviously they have tried to seek information like this in the past or we would have the 4th Amendment.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
Off the top of my head, I don’t have a problem with it. They’ve been using black boxes in airplanes for years and they’re a very useful data tool for legal, liability & insurance purposes. aka: it’s a money saver.

My philosophy is: if the government is going to exploit you, you’re dead either way. If you want a government that is as least dangerous as possible, it’s more effective to ramp up means of making the government increasingly transparent than it is to make it impotent. Making it impotent is one way to help ensure your security, and it does indeed work, but its a much cruder tool that allows a lot of good meat to get carved off in the process.
“Black boxes” in cars would be anything but a “money saver.” The most obvious use would be to track one’s driving habits, speed averages, and aggregate mileage over a period of time. With that data, the Green Police, with government backing, would then see to it that car owners would face new taxes (for driving over a fixed number of miles per year), new surcharges (say, when the black box detected speeding, or an “excessive” number of “inefficient” short trips), and even forced car turn-ins (the automotive equivalent of “Logan’s Run”) when the authorities decided a given car wasn’t being maintained to some bureaucratic standard. And these are just the most "benign"possible uses. Not even getting into governmental usage of “black box” data to control behavior – such as remote disabling of cars for allegedly unauthorized use, tracking individual’s travels, etc. No thank you.
 
That’s a very good question why would they need it…since we are all innocent until proven guilty?
We may all be innocent until proven guilty, but we are not all law abiding… many criminals who have committed a crime and used a car. Why should we let criminals get away so easily?

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I definitely would not. There is way too much potential for abuse.
 
Why would they seek this information from you if are a law abiding citizen?
Why would they collect our phone logs, text, email and internet histroy if we were law abiding citizens? And yet, that is exactly what they have been doing, we caught them at it. Sorry, but I trust our government as far as I can throw them, and considering that DC is a big place, I doubt that’s very far. Things like this are -always- abused, period. Name one government who did that sort of thing that used it altruistically or for the good of the people.
 
“Black boxes” in cars would be anything but a “money saver.” The most obvious use would be to track one’s driving habits, speed averages, and aggregate mileage over a period of time. With that data, the Green Police, with government backing, would then see to it that car owners would face new taxes (for driving over a fixed number of miles per year), new surcharges (say, when the black box detected speeding, or an “excessive” number of “inefficient” short trips), and even forced car turn-ins (the automotive equivalent of “Logan’s Run”) when the authorities decided a given car wasn’t being maintained to some bureaucratic standard. And these are just the most "benign"possible uses. Not even getting into governmental usage of “black box” data to control behavior – such as remote disabling of cars for allegedly unauthorized use, tracking individual’s travels, etc. No thank you.
Would these things really happen? Or, are you being pessimistic? Driving has always been a privilege, and applying a tracking device may therefore be fully right and moral.

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Would these things really happen? Or, are you being pessimistic? Driving has always been a privilege, and applying a tracking device may therefore be fully right and moral.

LOVE! 🙂
Several governments have set in place systems similar in nature to this car system… The Soviet union, Hitler’s Germany, Mussolini… All of them developed ways to track their citizens, and it always ended poorly. This is just another form of tracking. Being law abiding or not has nothing to do with it, I will not sacrifice my privacy to make it easier for them to do their damn jobs.
 
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