Would you switch from Beef to Kangaroo, to save a planet?

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Elizium23 said:
Also, kangaroo milk? Kangaroo leather?
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I once had a pair of kangaroo leather shoes and they were very comfortable. The leather is noticeably softer and more pliant than oxhide. When I went back to the same store to get another pair, however, they were no longer available.I don’t know why not.

Haven’t tried the milk, though. They’re marsupials. Milking them can’t be an easy job.
 
I’m too chicken to even try bison.

There is a diner nearby that offers a bison burger, but I haven’t had the courage to try it.
 
Theo520

I didn’t check any of your boxes. It is untrue that raising beef cattle contributes to climate change. Your question, as it stands, is meaningless.
 
Catholic1954 said:
I heard it taste like chicken.
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No it’s definitely more meaty than venison. Venison always has that somewhat gamey flavor and can be stringy. I find kangaroo to be mush less so. On a meat spectrum From say Cow to Venison I’d put it as less meaty than cow but far more meaty than venison.

Another thing I’d be happy to switch to permanently… antelope. It has a very unique flavor that is amazing. And nothing like venison as you might expect. There’s a burger place in my town that specializes in exotic meats and I’ve tried almost all of them from wild hog, duck, lamb, ostrich, antelope, bison to alligator. Only ones I’ve yet to try are their new additions of Elk and Camel.
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I’m too chicken to even try bison.

There is a diner nearby that offers a bison burger, but I haven’t had the courage to try it.
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You’re missing out. Buffalo/Bison is like the best beef you’ve ever had. It’s incredibly flavorful and far less fatty than beef. I have almost completely cut beef out of my life and Bison was a big part of that. If I eat red meat these days, it tends to be Bison.
 
BartholomewB said:
Theo520

I didn’t check any of your boxes. It is untrue that raising beef cattle contributes to climate change. Your question, as it stands, is meaningless.
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I agree! I didn’t check any of the boxes either.
 
Although I just voted 1), I’m not giving up beef, full stop. The poll was weakly written, IMNAAHO.

ICXC NIKA
 
7_Sorrows said:
I for one would not even know what a cow fart smells like!!!
and I don’t believe our planet needs to be saved from cattle gas!
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Having once been a Dairyfarmer,
Yes they do Fart,lots of farts,
But as far as farting in Rythem,
They will never ever compare with a Horse walking up a Hill
 
phil_at_dayboro said:
Having once been a Dairyfarmer,
Yes they do Fart,lots of farts,
But as far as farting in Rythem,
They will never ever compare with a Horse walking up a Hill
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I have heard horses fart as we had horses growing up. why are the cows getting all the blame?
 
phil_at_dayboro said:
Having once been a Dairyfarmer,
Yes they do Fart,lots of farts,
But as far as farting in Rythem,
They will never ever compare with a Horse walking up a Hill
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This reminds me of a story about Reagan and the Queen, as told by James Baker:
"Reagan was with the Queen at Windsor Castle one morning, and since he and the Queen shared a love for horses, they decided to go horseback riding together. Some distance from the Castle, as Reagan was following the Queen up a small grade, the Queen’s horse decided to loudly expel some gas in sync with each step.

Embarrassed, the Queen turned around and said. “Oh I am so sorry Mr. President.”

“No problem your majesty”, replied Reagan, “I thought it was the horse!”

Baker swears this is a true story. And to think, England is still our friend."
Reagan and Queen Elizabeth Riding Horses
 
Too funny, and I’m sure the Queen laughed at that for days.
She probably doesn’t get much humor from her retinue.
Larry1700 said:
This reminds me of a story about Reagan and the Queen, as told by James Baker:
"Reagan was with the Queen at Windsor Castle one morning, and since he and the Queen shared a love for horses, they decided to go horseback riding together. Some distance from the Castle, as Reagan was following the Queen up a small grade, the Queen’s horse decided to loudly expel some gas in sync with each step.

Embarrassed, the Queen turned around and said. “Oh I am so sorry Mr. President.”

“No problem your majesty”, replied Reagan, “I thought it was the horse!”

Baker swears this is a true story. And to think, England is still our friend."
Reagan and Queen Elizabeth Riding Horses
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For health reasons and environmental reasons (and because I like it), I tend to go with chicken instead of other meats. I do have an interest in the growing population of buffalo in North America, though, there are a couple of preserves east of the Mississippi now with some fairly aggressive plans to open some more up on the Eastern seaboard. If we get to a point where buffalo meat is a commercially viable product (which is a part of the goal, along with simply growing the population), I will try some of that and probably come back for more. I’m not sure if buffalo are any improvement on cows from a methane standpoint, though.

Kangaroo seems like sort of a random choice to me, is it a substantially better option than chicken? If I was in Australia and it was available I’d probably give it a try.
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I’m too chicken to even try bison.

There is a diner nearby that offers a bison burger, but I haven’t had the courage to try it.
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It’s hardly distinguishable from beef. I doubt you would tell a difference except that bison tends to be leaner. But the reason for that is that much beef is grain fed at the end so the meat is marbled. As between bison and grass-fed beef there’s not enough difference to say there is any. Go ahead with the bison burger, expensive though it tends to be.

One does notice that Australians eat grass-fed beef and don’t have kangaroo ranches for eating. Undoubtedly they know something.

And removing bovines from the earth would have two serious downsides:
  1. It results in desertification of the land, which encourages global warming and reduces water availability, if anyone is interested in that.
  2. It would waste roughly 1/3 of the land, which is not useable for anything but grazing.
Finally, the “methane problem” is not from flatus but from belching. Ruminants like cattle, sheep, elk, deer and bison have two stomachs. In one, the cellulose encapsulation of the nutrients (which is why grass is inedible to humans) the grass is biodegraded by bacteria. The ruminants then regurgitate the result, re-chew (chewing its cud) and re-swallow it, whereupon it goes into another stomach where the nutrients are extracted. The process releases methane that is a by-product of the first process. So it’s belching, not flatulating.

So, to get rid of the methane, getting rid of cattle alone won’t do it. We would have to get rid of all ruminants. And it might be further mentioned that there are about as many cattle in the U.S. presently as there were bison before settlers arrived. So “cattle methane” is a zero addition to the pre-industrial methane release.
 
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