Wouldn't we aware of all changes in our bodies if ours souls are in complete charge?

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We know that there are many changes in our bodies at each moment. The question is whether soul is in full charge of animating the body? If yes, why we are not aware of all changes?
 
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Some people call it the unconscious, it may keep our hearts beating, our lungs operating and many basic operations whilst our conscious mind burns brightly like a filament in a light bulb.

If we were consciously aware of all stimulus we would be overwhelmed by information.
 
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Some people call it the unconscious, it may keep our hearts beating, our lungs operating and many basic operations whilst our conscious mind burns brightly like a filament in a light bulb.

If we were consciously aware of all stimulus we would be overwhelmed by information.
So soul doesn’t fully animate the body?
 
In my probably erroneous model it would be the basis which maintains life and sit behind the scenes.

It’s always on, have you ever noticed your name spoken in a very noisy room? That’s how aware it is.
 
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why would we be in full awareness of all changes in our body, even if soul was in full charge of animating the body? I dont see the necessary link
 
In my probably erroneous model it would be the basis which maintains life and sit behind the scenes.

It’s always on, have you ever noticed your name spoken in a very noisy room? That’s how aware it is.
But a big part of maintaining life is about all changes in our bodies which apparently soul is responsible for it.
 
why would we be in full awareness of all changes in our body, even if soul was in full charge of animating the body? I dont see the necessary link
Well, soul should be aware of what it does otherwise other thing is the cause of life in a body.
 
soul should be aware of what it does? sounds like soul has a mind (aware) and a body (what it does) that commits actions. I dont follow
 
soul should be aware of what it does? sounds like soul has a mind (aware) and a body (what it does) that commits actions. I dont follow
No, soul is mind. Soul causes things which it wants. This requires awareness.
 
We know that there are many changes in our bodies at each moment. The question is whether soul is in full charge of animating the body? If yes, why we are not aware of all changes?
For Thomists, the human intellect is not the soul. It’s a power of the soul. Something we do just by virtue of being human. And furthermore, the human intellect is not the same thing as human consciousness.

The form (soul) is just the principle of commonality one human has with another human.

There’a nothing in Thomism that would imply the soul has awareness of everything going on in the body.
 
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why would we be in full awareness of all changes in our body, even if soul was in full charge of animating the body? I dont see the necessary link
Well, soul should be aware of what it does otherwise other thing is the cause of life in a body.
No… no… no the soul isn’t a part animating the material parts. It’s just a principle, a distinction being made in order to explain material beings.
 
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soul should be aware of what it does? sounds like soul has a mind (aware) and a body (what it does) that commits actions. I dont follow
No, soul is mind. Soul causes things which it wants. This requires awareness.
According to who is the soul the mind?
 
For Thomists, the human intellect is not the soul. It’s a power of the soul. Something we do just by virtue of being human. And furthermore, the human intellect is not the same thing as human consciousness.
These I am aware of.
The form (soul) is just the principle of commonality one human has with another human.
Doesn’t soul give life and animate the body?
There’a nothing in Thomism that would imply the soul has awareness of everything going on in the body.
I am aware of this. That, being fully aware, is in fact my argument.
 
No… no… no the soul isn’t a part animating the material parts. It’s just a principle, a distinction being made in order to explain material beings.
What is the difference between a dead person and alive one? Soul. Therefore that is soul which gives life to the body. This means that soul should be in charge of all changes.
 
According to who is the soul the mind?
It depends on how do you define mind: the element, part, substance, or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc. (according to google).
 
Doesn’t soul give life and animate the body?
Not like a mechanical part. If what something is is a living thing, then it is by being what it is that it’s a living thing.

It’s sort of trivially true, once you understand the form-matter distinction and terms. The soul isn’t acting on the matter, the material being (who exists with co-principles of matter and form) is actual as one whole.
There’a nothing in Thomism that would imply the soul has awareness of everything going on in the body.
I am aware of this. That, being fully aware, is in fact my argument.
Why?
 
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No… no… no the soul isn’t a part animating the material parts. It’s just a principle, a distinction being made in order to explain material beings.
What is the difference between a dead person and alive one? Soul. Therefore that is soul which gives life to the body. This means that soul should be in charge of all changes.
A corpse no longer has the form of a human being. It’s no longer one whole, but is simply its component parts. But the soul isn’t a ghost that has left, there’s just been a substantial change.
 
I think the semantics of “gives life to” and “in charge of all changes” and “mind” is why its hard to discuss. Perhaps define each. Clearly the soul isn’t in charge of pumping blood around the body, that is the heart. By “mind” some people interpret to mean the physical brain so again, definitions are hazy here.
 
We know that there are many changes in our bodies at each moment. The question is whether soul is in full charge of animating the body? If yes, why we are not aware of all changes?
Are you making the case for human omniscience? That is shocking.
(Or maybe you are baiting the answers that will not satisfy you…)
 
Not like a mechanical part. If what something is is a living thing, then it is by being what it is that it’s a living thing.
What is the purpose of all mechanical activities in our bodies? To sustain life. That is the duty of soul.
It’s sort of trivially true, once you understand the form-matter distinction and terms. The soul isn’t acting on the matter, the material being (who exists with co-principles of matter and form) is actual as one whole.
I understand form-matter distinction. First, I am not only discussing hylemorphic dualism in here but I am considering substance dualism as well. Soul-body acts/cause according to hylemorphic dualism. In substance dualism soul acts/causes and body move. Yet, a body without any soul is a dead body within hylemorphic dualism.
We have these facts: (1) Soul is the form (configuration of matter according to Aristotle), (2) Soul animates and gives life to the body and (3) Soul should be aware of what it cause, like raising your hand. The question is why you are aware when you decide to move your hand but not aware of all changes in your body.
 
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