writing during mass?

[Julia_Mae]

Sorry, that is simply not true.

Ask your pastor. I have. He cannot eject someone without good reason. If they are disturbing the peace, yes.

I believe we may be misunderstanding each other. The Church, or his Bishop, may have rules for him in terms of this, but - those are the Church’s rules and a church is NOT a “public place.” If the Pastor decides to eject someone for listening to their iPod during Mass and they refuse to leave, the police (in this country) will remove them to jail for trespassing if the Pastor makes a complaint.

No one has a right to be in a church in civil law. That’s what I meant.

 

[maryjk]

Listening to an iPod is a whole different ballgame. That would be disrespectful.

Being a little sarcastic here, but do you have list of what is allowed and what is “disrespectful?” Otherwise how does someone know?

How about if you are an adult, you should be listening to the homily? So no iPod, no knitting, no writing books or poetry, no painting and no dancing. If Father says something that you feel you need to write down, feel free, but you are not taking dictation, you are jotting down a note.

 

[GwenL]

I believe we may be misunderstanding each other. The Church, or his Bishop, may have rules for him in terms of this, but - those are the Church’s rules and a church is NOT a “public place.” If the Pastor decides to eject someone for listening to their iPod during Mass and they refuse to leave, the police (in this country) will remove them to jail for trespassing if the Pastor makes a complaint.

No one has a right to be in a church in civil law. That’s what I meant.

Sorry, you are still wrong. The police, in the US, won’t remove someone unless they are breaking the law. Generally, the police won’t even respond unless the person is threatening someone or disturbing the peace.

If you think that any police would respond to a pastors request to remove a person for listening to an iPod–well, why don’t you call your local police info line and ask them about this? Let us know what they say.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Sorry, you are still wrong. The police, in the US, won’t remove someone unless they are breaking the law. Generally, the police won’t even respond unless the person is threatening someone or disturbing the peace.

I don’t know where you live. I was a police officer in the City and County of Denver. The police respond when called by ANYONE for anything. Any person on a church (any church) property who is requested to leave by the Pastor, or any person in position of authority, like say the office manager, will leave or be arrested for trespassing. That’s the law. No one in control of private property, which church property is, needs any excuse to restrict access to property. No reason is necessary. You can tell anyone on your property to leave at any time and if they do not, they are trespassing.

If you live in some jurisdiction with different laws, I’d find that unbelievable without a reference to statute. A church is not a public place. It is private property owned by a corporate person or by a pastor. That’s any church of any denomination.

 

[TrueLight]

Being a little sarcastic here, but do you have list of what is allowed and what is “disrespectful?” Otherwise how does someone know?

How about if you are an adult, you should be listening to the homily? So no iPod, no knitting, no writing books or poetry, no painting and no dancing. If Father says something that you feel you need to write down, feel free, but you are not taking dictation, you are jotting down a note.

No, I don’t have a list. However, I don’t understand why I have to explain this.

If I’m listening to a homily and I write down something that the priest is saying, does that mean I cannot hear what he is saying at the same time?

How can you listen to a homily and listen to an iPod at the same time?

 

[CB_Catholic]

This discussion is getting weirder and weirder. Now we’re talking about calling the police during Mass. What is the matter with people that they have to be so argumentative?

I am sure that the lurkers out there are really impressed with our levels of discussion.

 

[TrueLight]

This discussion is getting weirder and weirder. Now we’re talking about calling the police during Mass. What is the matter with people that they have to be so argumentative?

I am sure that the lurkers out there are really impressed with our levels of discussion.

Yeah, you’re right. I don’t know why I’m bothering.

 

[TimothyH]

How can you listen to a homily and listen to an iPod at the same time?

Apparently every human between the age of 13 and 22 can listen to an ipod and simultaneously hear and comprehend absolutely everything that happens around them at all times.

My 9th grade dauther told me so, and tries to prove it every morning in the car as I drive her to school.

-Tim-

 

[Oneofthewomen]

And 30 years ago I was that same teen-age girl, who said the same thing to her parents, and who thought I was so cool with my Sony WalkMan!!

Apparently every human between the age of 13 and 22 can listen to an ipod and simultaneously hear and comprehend absolutely everything that happens around them at all times.

My 9th grade dauther told me so, and tries to prove it every morning in the car as I drive her to school.

-Tim-

 

[TrueLight]

Apparently every human between the age of 13 and 22 can listen to an ipod and simultaneously hear and comprehend absolutely everything that happens around them at all times.

My 9th grade dauther told me so, and tries to prove it every morning in the car as I drive her to school.

-Tim-

I am the queen of listening to my iphone while doing other things like playing games on my phone, reading, studying etc.

However, there is always some level of distraction.

I know enough to lower the volume when crossing the street.

 

[SecretGarden]

I don’t know how an ipod, or iphone entered this discussion. I think we can all agree that listening to either during mass is considered rude, disrespectful, among a long list of things. If a person was quietly taking notes on their smart phone, again, this becomes a gray area depending on if they were making noise. That is not the point. The woman sits and writes in the back. As for the mention of the person being kicked out from the mass, it was as simple: priest did not like the writing, instead of talking to her about it, he told her no writing, ended the conversation and asked the council to tell her she wasn’t allowed to attend mass if she wrote. It is that simple. Does it sound harsh, yes, but as crazy as it sounds that is what happened. The priest is human. We can agree there are other ways to handle the situation but again, that is between he and God. She doesn’t attend that place anymore because of the way it was handled.

I think we need to stay on track with the question. Everyone’s ideas have been interesting and I appreciate your honesty.

 

[Joannm]

I was just thinking. Sometimes I’ll sit in the back after a mass and write and the next mass starts and I stay there because I am not finished writing. People may think I am not participating but I actually have already attended Mass. It’s no one’s business what someone else does during Mass unless they are really disruptive. I have friend who was yelled at by an usher for reading her iPad during Mass. But what she was actually doing was following along with the readings on it.