WWYD? "Please stand and greet your neighbor."

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What would you do in this scenario?

Our parish began a new custom recently. Just before Mass begins, a lector comes to the pulpit to wish good morning, welcome all to the parish, and introduce themselves by name. Then, they say, “At this time, we invite you to stand and greet your neighbor.” Everyone stands and the once quiet church turns into a buzz of movement and noise. No more praying. The opening hymn begins from that point.

My husband and I spent a number of years living in a town that was much more informed by the surrounding Protestantism than the town we live in now. People would chat quietly before Mass, hanging over pews to greet people. There was no reverent silence and there was very little sense of preparing oneself spiritually for the liturgy between arrival and the opening hymn.

It was one aspect of many that made it very difficult to nourish the spiritual life. Now, our parish is doing the same thing, The last moments of prayerful silence are turned into a brief social event. I kind of rely on every last moment of that preparatory period because when you’re hurrying to Mass with two small children, you’re trying to strike a balance between not getting there too early and having to corral the children for an extra 10-15 minutes, butvalso have time to settle in, take a break, and pray a moment.

The last thing I want to do is wind up my children and myself and shake hands and say good morning.

What would you do? My husband sits and doesn’t respond if anyone tries to greet him. That seems churlish to me. I don’t stand, but I nod and smile and say good morning. It’s a very healthy, vibrant parish so sitting where no one can greet us isn’t an option. It’s a full church. And the noise riles up the children anyway. I don’t think it’s THAT big a deal. I roll my eyes and wish they wouldn’t but it’s not worth being rude or addressing the pastor.

What’s your take?
 
This parish I attend sometimes has done that before, but it was definitely less than 10 minutes.
 
Some parishes do what you describe in an effort to get “visiting” out of the Sign of Peace. I have yet to see that strategy work.

What did your pastor say when you posed this question to him? Give him feedback letting him know that in spite of good intentions behind the practice (which I would be careful to recognize, were I you, particularly since this may have been his idea) that it has actually made it more difficult to quiet your children down for Mass. Then vote in favor of the lectors reminding everyone to turn off any devices that make noise and to prepare for the beginning of Mass in silence, which is a practice you have heard of and favor much more. (Our parish now does the latter, and it does help.)
 
One of the things I hear repeatedly in RCIA is that it’s hard to meet people and how Catholics are so stand-offish. If I were asked to greet others before Mass I would do so and would be grateful to know that my brothers and sisters in Christ had come together with me to pray together and worship God together. I’d be happy for that small effort at fellowship that might make someone feel welcome as a guest or as someone returning to church after a time away. And if I really hated it I’d take it as a moment to remind myself that the world doesn’t revolve around me.
 
Ugh. I would hate this. Too much chatting and noise before Mass at my parish as it is. It would be almost impossible to reign in my little ones after that point, as well. My parish hosts a donut and coffee gathering immediately afterward and lots of folks attend and socialize.
 
Ugh. I would hate this. Too much chatting and noise before Mass at my parish as it is. It would be almost impossible to reign in my little ones after that point, as well. My parish hosts a donut and coffee gathering immediately afterward and lots of folks attend and socialize.
I agree.

I wish some Churches put as much energy into the importance and respecting the Eucharist as they do in trying to make people feel good.
 
One of the things I hear repeatedly in RCIA is that it’s hard to meet people and how Catholics are so stand-offish. If I were asked to greet others before Mass I would do so and would be grateful to know that my brothers and sisters in Christ had come together with me to pray together and worship God together. I’d be happy for that small effort at fellowship that might make someone feel welcome as a guest or as someone returning to church after a time away. And if I really hated it I’d take it as a moment to remind myself that the world doesn’t revolve around me.
I agree. I would see being friendly and welcoming as the supreme preparation for Mass, actually, over personal prayer. The Last Supper involved fellowship, if I understand it correctly, before the moment of the Institution of the Eucharist.

I understand what you mean about the children getting over-excited, but that can be managed, surely.

I’m sure there could be a compromise. Maybe a time of greeting, then a brief reminder to calm the mind,(perhaps by a short piece of music after the bell) then the hymn.
 
I roll my eyes and wish they wouldn’t but it’s not worth being rude or addressing the pastor.
Anything that bothers you is worth discussing with your pastor.
 
Many if not most Catholic Churches I attend do this before Sunday Mass.
It takes 30 seconds or less - it is not a 5 or 10 minute thing.

I am not big on socializing with strangers at Mass because I don’t attend Mass for the community interaction, but I realize some other people are concerned with feeling friendly and welcome, and that this feature has been added in large part to try to make Catholics come out of their shells and be less standoffish, plus it’s very short. No need to have a conversation.

I nod, smile and say Good Morning and it’s over in an eye blink. No biggie.
 
I would stand and greet my neighbor. Not a big deal to me. I have already gotten to church early and “prepared” myself for the celebration of Mass. I like meeting new people and helping them feel comfortable in Church.
 
I’ve had so many awkward and sometimes upsetting conversations trying to explain how it’s possible to attend the same church for more than a year and not know any fellow parishioners so I really can’t be against this even if it is a little disruptive. The reputation for Catholics being standoffish can’t be ignored and I wonder how many we lose because they are unintentionally made to feel their presence in church isn’t noticed.
 
We have it in our parish—I, personally, don’t like it. It takes away from the “Sign of Peace”. On the other hand, I’m not crazy about the “Sign of Peace” either–but if it is done, please let it just be a nod instead of full on handshake. Within families, I don’t mind the hugging, etc. Turning and nodding, saying hello to others is fine as well. I get the germ thing during cold and flu seasons as well…and find, at other times, that it takes our focus too much off of HIM.
 
I personally would not be bothered by a time of fellowship and greeting. I like getting to know the people I am worshipping with. It’s also nice for visitors to not be singled out for greeting. It makes people feel welcome, and isn’t that what most churches need to do?

If it does bother you, you may want to consider discussing it with your pastor. It may seem trivial to discuss it but I feel that if he explains how or why this part of the service is included, you won’t feel so bothered by it.
 
Our presiding priest will ring a big set of chimes, the announcements are made and we greet ghose around us. Greets take 30 seconds. We attend the Saturday vigil, less crowded, some people sit wway back with empty pews in front of them to avoid shaking hands, but a smile and a small wave is sufficient. Maybe that would work for you. Another option is rushing in at the last second and taking your seats…
 
I feel uncomfortable with this when I am not a parishioner, but I am just a visitor from out of town/state. I am not at Mass to socialize (I know “Greeting those around you” is not socializing, but when its a big church, it takes probably two minutes away), I am there for Jesus.
 
We have this greeting thing in our parish, too. I don’t like it either, not because I don’t want to be friendly to my fellow parishioners, but simply because I don’t find it necessary. As you said, I would like to keep a little more sacred silence until the beginning of Mass. Another thing I dislike along the same lines is the endless announcements both at the beginning of Mass and before the Offertory. Instead of doing a few announcements before we leave, they load a bunch in before the Liturgy of the Eucharist begins and then they play some horrible song while the priests prepares the altar. There is no sacred silence for me to contemplate the Mysteries we are about to enter into.

This is by Cardinal Sarah’s new book on sacred silence is so necessary right now.

May God bless you all! 🙂
 
I agree. I would see being friendly and welcoming as the supreme preparation for Mass, actually, over personal prayer. The Last Supper involved fellowship, if I understand it correctly, before the moment of the Institution of the Eucharist.

I understand what you mean about the children getting over-excited, but that can be managed, surely.

I’m sure there could be a compromise. Maybe a time of greeting, then a brief reminder to calm the mind,(perhaps by a short piece of music after the bell) then the hymn.
I also agree. Especially for singles, who are already treated like second-class citizens at Catholic parishes and already getting dirty looks from people because there’s no family with us, those greetings can help makes us feel included.
 
I feel uncomfortable with this when I am not a parishioner, but I am just a visitor from out of town/state. I am not at Mass to socialize (I know “Greeting those around you” is not socializing, but when its a big church, it takes probably two minutes away), I am there for Jesus.
I have a similar situation. I continue to support the local parish to which I am officially assigned by sending them monthly donations, but due to my work and other commitments, I attend church wherever I happen to be and where I can find Masses and devotions that work with my schedule. There are about 10 churches I attend semi-regularly and many more churches and cathedrals that I might attend once or twice a year. I do not know the vast majority of parishioners in any of these places and am not that interested because I am there to focus on Jesus/ the Eucharist and to pray, not to socialize; I tried to get more involved from a community standpoint many years ago when I mostly attended my assigned parish, and it did not work well for me and was not productive to my spiritual development. I tend to be a hermit type in that regard.

However, as I and others mentioned previously, this is a 30 second greeting easily covered by a smile and a wave. Takes less time than thanking your supermarket checkout clerk. No biggie.
 
I feel uncomfortable with this when I am not a parishioner, but I am just a visitor from out of town/state. I am not at Mass to socialize (I know “Greeting those around you” is not socializing, but when its a big church, it takes probably two minutes away), I am there for Jesus.
It’s not about socializing or being “entertained.” It’s about being acknowledged that you are also there for Jesus. Seems like a non-threatening concept for any single just starving to be seen as belonging in the pews, too.
 
For a time we did this at our parish. It was at most a minute. I didn’t love it, but I didn’t get worked up about it, either.

What I really prefer is actual fellowship after Mass. Preferably with donuts and coffee. 😃
 
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