Wycliffe and the Lollards

[YoungCatholic86]

courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/varia/lollards/lollconc.htm

Anyone care to comment on this? It seems that Protestant ideas have been around longer than the just at the time of the Reformation and beyond.

(This is not so much of a question as it is a conversation starter)

 

[Rolltide]

courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/varia/lollards/lollconc.htm

Anyone care to comment on this? It seems that Protestant ideas have been around longer than the just at the time of the Reformation and beyond.

(This is not so much of a question as it is a conversation starter)

John Wycliffe and the Lollards, and Jan Hus and the Hussites are widely known as precursors to the Protestant Reformation. The main difference was that these movements were either addressed (or crushed) successfully, whereas Martin Luther’s movement about 100 years later wasn’t, partially because Charles V was the Holy Roman Emperor, and was busy with so many other things (discovery of America / conquest of Aztecs and Incas, European wars, etc…) that he failed to prevent Luther’s movement until it was too large to suppress.

 

[SMHW]

courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/varia/lollards/lollconc.htm

Anyone care to comment on this? It seems that Protestant ideas have been around longer than the just at the time of the Reformation and beyond.

(This is not so much of a question as it is a conversation starter)

While I don’t disagree with your statement, I think it sort of strange that anyone would think so called protestant ideas originated at the time of the reformation. The early Church, and even Jesus himself, had to battle some of these same things.

 

[Dave_Noonan]

courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/varia/lollards/lollconc.htm

Anyone care to comment on this? It seems that Protestant ideas have been around longer than the just at the time of the Reformation and beyond.

(This is not so much of a question as it is a conversation starter)

If you take a look at the Carmina Burana, you’ll see that people in Germany and France were ridiculing the Church for its corruption and materialism already several hundred years before Luther came along. Eventually, people just became fed up.

 

[steve_b]

If you take a look at the Carmina Burana, you’ll see that people in Germany and France were ridiculing the Church for its corruption and materialism already several hundred years before Luther came along. Eventually, people just became fed up.

And what exactly changed post revolt? The revolt went into revolt against the revolters. And revolt continues down to today. By whatever name, revolt, sedition, schism, etc it’s all condemned in scripture.