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And we endure yet another month of people who think they have new info regarding Xmas trees. :rolleyes:

What do you think of Xmas tree? Valid symbols? Pagan abominations?
 
Bahhhhh Humbuggggg it’s pagan I tell you, it’s pagan!!! 😃 😉

🤷 I’m just being “cheesey” this morning!! 😛
otherwise I’d just put up some tinsel and holly and ivy etc
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What Mr. JC, no mistletoe??? 😊

To answer the poll, I don’t have an opinion and don’t care even if it is/was a pagan tradition.

I love Christmas trees and they make the house smell real nice with the pine scent and it’s pleasing to the eyes of little ones with the lights and ornaments.
 
I see it like this. If Jesus could take the weapon of degrading, painful, humiliating death and make it a symbol for hope and victory over sin, we can take a tree that is visibly alive in the coldest of winters and make it a symbol of our hope in Christ.

Besides, if the pagan gods don’t like it, they can address it with me. Or, even better, with God personally. 😛
 
Every good Catholic should know that Christmas trees come to us thanks to St. Boniface, not any via any pagan ritual. 🙂

In the early 8th century, St. Boniface came across a group of pagans worshipping under the Oak of Thor one Christmas Eve. They taunted him that their tree would never fall. St. Boniface was so incensed at this that he grabbed an axe and, with one blow, cut down the giant tree.

After the dust settled, he noticed that behind this mighty oak was a tiny fir tree. St. Boniface pointed to it and said that this tree, which is always green, and always pointing up to heaven is the tree of the Christ child and represents eternal life. It’s triangular shape is also very Trinitarian. 🙂
 
Bringing trees indoors during the winter and decorating them is quite old…Christians adopted the practice…it was the pagan Gemans, Romans, Middle Easterns (in Jeremiah there is a passage of this pagan practice). The “meaning” is rooted in paganism…Christians may ascribe to it any “Xian” meaning they wish…but the practice began among pagans.

I think NOW it is a Western tradition rooted in ancient paganism and fairly “modern” Christian practice.
 
Say a non-Xian sees greens as a sign that life goes on thanks to his god, the elements, aliens, or the tree itself. Well, he sort of got it right. Greens are a good symbol of eternal life-33.3 points. He also got it right that life does go on - 33.3 points. He was off on the rest of it. He saw the good and misinterpreted it. Seems that some people are still doing that. 🙂

So the non-Christian gets a failing grade, unless he goes to school in the US, in which case he will be labeled “special”, and the rest of the class will undergo sensitivity trainging classes in which they will learn of the great value of tree gods. 😉
 
I received a Christmas card today that quoted Holley Gerth * on
The Meaning of the Christmas Tree. I’ll paraphrase it:
  1. The wood reminds us of the wood of the manger . . . . and that of the Cross
  2. The evergreen promises the eternal life He opened to us
  3. The decorations symbolize the blessings we receive from above
  4. The lights symbolize our duty show forth our Faith
There must be a reason it arrived today.👍*
 
kalt said:
And we endure yet another month of people who think they have new info regarding Xmas trees. :rolleyes:

What do you think of Xmas tree? Valid symbols? Pagan abominations?
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Let me see, how many other things are pagan abominations?

Processions with a standard preceded by incense, definitely Roman (and I don’t mean Catholic), Basilicas were law courts or something in ancient Rome. The use of vestments that have their origin in the dress of Roman nobles (chasubles), very suspect. I think the mitre is of Persian origin (blast that Ahmadinajad!)

So let us gather in barns with no symbolism, no pagan origins, and ditch those statues. There, you have a wonderful religion just like the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
 
kalt said:
And we endure yet another month of people who think they have new info regarding Xmas trees. :rolleyes:

What do you think of Xmas tree? Valid symbols? Pagan abominations?
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Why are you taking the word “Christ” out of the words “Christmas” and “Christian”? 🤷:confused:
 
Holly3278 said:
Why are you taking the word “Christ” out of the words “Christmas” and “Christian”? 🤷:confused:
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Using an X to abbreviate the word isn’t taking Christ out. You’ve probably heard that from many sources, but it’s wrong.

crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

I didn’t read that whole piece, so I want to add that you pronounce Xmas, Kristmus. Like ETC is pronounce et setera–you wouldn’t say etsee.
 
Consider this:

I have a friend who is a Benedictine monk.

He remarked that when he cuts cloth, sews it, or irons it, it’s merely cloth.

But when HE puts it on, it becomes the holy habit of a monk.

Regardless of what pagans might have done, when CHRISTIANS do it, it’s to glorify God.

The whole point of Christianity is to take something that was once alienated from God (like ourselves) and use it to His glory.

Those who don’t believe this simply don’t understand the Gospel of Christ.
 
Christmas trees are secular holiday symbols that can and sometimes are imbued with Christian symbols. Nothing wrong with a Christmas tree but it’s not specifically Christian either.
 
kalt said:
Using an X to abbreviate the word isn’t taking Christ out. You’ve probably heard that from many sources, but it’s wrong.

crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

I didn’t read that whole piece, so I want to add that you pronounce Xmas, Kristmus. Like ETC is pronounce et setera–you wouldn’t say etsee.
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Oh ok. I apologize if I insulted you. Anyway, I just never did like the spellings “Xmas” and “Xian”. But that’s besides the point. If I insulted you then please kindly accept my apology.
 
I know from real life experience that Christmas trees are pure evil…if you have allergies. We threw one out onto the curb on December 24th one year, we were all THAT sick. Plastic trees, now, those are OK. 😛
 
Holly3278 said:
Oh ok. I apologize if I insulted you. Anyway, I just never did like the spellings “Xmas” and “Xian”. But that’s besides the point. If I insulted you then please kindly accept my apology.
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Nope. Not insulted. So many people fall for the Protestant lie about Xmas, that I feel compelled to spread the truth about it.
 
Yerusalyim said:
Christmas trees are secular holiday symbols that can and sometimes are imbued with Christian symbols. Nothing wrong with a Christmas tree but it’s not specifically Christian either.
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Don’t fall for the lies. Christmas trees are specifically Christian.

Pine trees aren’t, but Christmas trees, by definition, are Christian.
 
bpbasilphx said:
Consider this:

I have a friend who is a Benedictine monk.

He remarked that when he cuts cloth, sews it, or irons it, it’s merely cloth.

But when HE puts it on, it becomes the holy habit of a monk.

Regardless of what pagans might have done, when CHRISTIANS do it, it’s to glorify God.

The whole point of Christianity is to take something that was once alienated from God (like ourselves) and use it to His glory.

Those who don’t believe this simply don’t understand the Gospel of Christ.
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👍👍
cecilia97 said:
I know from real life experience that Christmas trees are pure evil…if you have allergies. We threw one out onto the curb on December 24th one year, we were all THAT sick. Plastic trees, now, those are OK. 😛
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I am allergic, too…😦
 
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