Yet another sin question

[JL2011]

Hi,

I have a question regarding the graveness of an action. Here’s the case:

I have a school subject where we are required to use Adobe Flash to complete the course. Because of reasons unknown to me, the school computers we use for that subject don’t have that application installed, yet. We’re at about one third of the semester and we just don’t know when we will get it. The thing is, our teacher advised us to download it for free (yes, illegally), and I know this is wrong, but he says we need it to complete the course. Should I do it, even if I know it’s wrong? Does this constitute grave matter?

 

[RastaPasta]

Hi,

I have a question regarding the graveness of an action. Here’s the case:

I have a school subject where we are required to use Adobe Flash to complete the course. Because of reasons unknown to me, the school computers we use for that subject don’t have that application installed, yet. We’re at about one third of the semester and we just don’t know when we will get it. The thing is, our teacher advised us to download it for free (yes, illegally), and I know this is wrong, but he says we need it to complete the course. Should I do it, even if I know it’s wrong? Does this constitute grave matter?

Adobe Flash is a free download, doesn’t cost anything, and it isn’t illegal to download it for free. It’s a free application (I believe that it’s actually a browser plug-in). Just do a Goggle search for Adobe Flash, or go to the Adobe website and you will see.

Now whether or not the school will allow you to download that free application/plug-in onto a computer (which they own) is a different story.

 

[1ke]

Hi,

I have a question regarding the graveness of an action. Here’s the case:

I have a school subject where we are required to use Adobe Flash to complete the course. Because of reasons unknown to me, the school computers we use for that subject don’t have that application installed, yet. We’re at about one third of the semester and we just don’t know when we will get it. The thing is, our teacher advised us to download it for free (yes, illegally), and I know this is wrong, but he says we need it to complete the course. Should I do it, even if I know it’s wrong? Does this constitute grave matter?

You can legally download the 30 day free trial of Flash from Adobe’s website. There is nothing illegal or immoral in doing so.

 

[1ke]

Adobe Flash is a free download,

The OP is talking about Adobe Flash Professional, the program used to create Flash content, not Adobe Flash Player, which is the free player Adobe provides for people to watch content created in Flash Professional…

 

[RastaPasta]

The OP is talking about Adobe Flash Professional, the program used to create Flash content, not Adobe Flash Player, which is the free player Adobe provides for people to watch content created in Flash Professional…

My mistake.

 

[ChibiViolet]

It’s a venial sin.

 

[Inego_de_Loyola]

It’s a venial sin.

IDK what whether or not it’s venial has to do with it. In fact I think that if you premeditatively commit a sin excusing it as venial then that it self is a grave matter. I would use the free trial in this case, but if it comes up again ask publicly in class “Isn’t that illegal?” I guarantee that that he’ll either explain how you misunderstood him or otherwise change his tune quickly.

 

[JL2011]

Thank you all for your opinions.

In fact I think that if you premeditatively commit a sin excusing it as venial then that it self is a grave matter.

I wouldn’t be sure of that.

I would use the free trial in this case, but if it comes up again ask publicly in class “Isn’t that illegal?” I guarantee that that he’ll either explain how you misunderstood him or otherwise change his tune quickly.

I think he knows it’s illegal, but he says we have to do it for the course, and he also says that since he’s not selling illegal copies of an application, he’s doing no wrong. I think it’s like trying to convince someone not to download or listen to music illegaly, they just won’t see anything wrong with it, just because it’s TOO EASY to break the law…

 

[ChibiViolet]

QUOTE=Inego de Loyola; IDK what whether or not it’s venial has to do with it. In fact I think that if you premeditatively commit a sin excusing it as venial then that it self is a grave matter.

Of course it’s not of grave matter. If one plans to commit a venial sin than they have sinned venially. While no sin is good, mortal sin is the worst kind–the kind that kills the soul and the punishment for which (if never confessed in the person’s lifetime that commintted it) is Hell so whether a sin is venial or mortal is a very big deal.

 

[JL2011]

There’s another teacher in my school that sometimes does things that she knows she shouldn’t do (things that are “beneficial” for us students, like giving us extra points in important exams where she knows she shouldn’t, or advising us to work in a way her authority said we can’t). I told her today something like, “isn’t it supposed we have to obey our authorities, including you teachers?”, and she answered, “Nobody listens to her,” refering to her authority.

My question is… what should I do when my teachers, whom I should obey because they’re my authority in school, don’t obey their respective authorities?

 

[Castello]

Report them to the administration.

 

[Inego_de_Loyola]

There’s another teacher in my school that sometimes does things that she knows she shouldn’t do (things that are “beneficial” for us students, like giving us extra points in important exams where she knows she shouldn’t, or advising us to work in a way her authority said we can’t). I told her today something like, “isn’t it supposed we have to obey our authorities, including you teachers?”, and she answered, “Nobody listens to her,” refering to her authority.

My question is… what should I do when my teachers, whom I should obey because they’re my authority in school, don’t obey their respective authorities?

Pray for them, but, excepting if they ask you to do something immoral, that is their business not yours. I wouldn’t recommend reporting her unless she makes a particularly egregious violation.