Yoga - It's great.

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You know I am really alarmed when I read or hear about Catholics/Christians who are scared of doing yoga because they might “get sucked in” to some kind of cult, or get brainwashed and start calling on demons etc.

OBVIOUSLY if you start to believe in the spiritual philosophy behind it then yeah…you’re probably not really “catholic” anymore, as…you belive in something else. But do people really have such a weak faith that as soon as they are exposed to the concept of another religion they will be all confused and fall to pieces worshipping false gods…I think not…

I do yoga. It’s a fantastic stress reducer and great for your body and mind. That’s it.
 
thomfra said:
Hi,

You know I am really alarmed when I read or hear about Catholics/Christians who are scared of doing yoga because they might “get sucked in” to some kind of cult, or get brainwashed and start calling on demons etc.

OBVIOUSLY if you start to believe in the spiritual philosophy behind it then yeah…you’re probably not really “catholic” anymore, as…you belive in something else. But do people really have such a weak faith that as soon as they are exposed to the concept of another religion they will be all confused and fall to pieces worshipping false gods…I think not…

I do yoga. It’s a fantastic stress reducer and great for your body and mind. That’s it.
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Christians don’t have a problem at all with the bodily excercise of yoga. It’s the transendental aspect of the meditation that gets sticky.

Eastern spirituality such as talk about moving kundalini, or energy around your body is simply not Christian.

What if I introduced to you an exercise program that included rejecting Jesus in its mantras? Would you still feel the way you do?
 
I always find opinions regarding something as innocent as doing yoga at the local gym as an evil thing laughable. 🙂 I take it that in most cases, the person doing the accusing, or preaching, does not have much faith themselves, and should most likely be prayed for.

But I digress, my wife has been taking yoga classes for the past two years at our local gym. She loves it, although now, being nearly 5 months pregnant, she admits, some of the moves are getting rather rough! 😉
 
is it indian yoga?ya its really great.i some time practice it.its good for health.
 
The same objections to Yoga can be used against Eastern Martial Arts, which, for the most part, contain some of the trappings of Shinto or Buddhism.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with either Yoga or Martial Arts, so long as the Christian involved is knowledgable and doesn’t delve into the esoteric aspects of either to the detriment of their faith.
 
Matthew 11:28-30: “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

Bhagavad Gita 2:50: “Devote thyself to Yoga; Yoga is skill in action.”

Qur’an 50:16: “And indeed We have created man, and We know what his ownself whispers to him. And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.”

“Yoke”, “Yoga”, and “Jugular” are all connected.
yoke (n.) etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gifOld English geoc “yoke,” earlier geoht “pair of draft animals,” from P.Gmc. *yukam (cf. O.S. juk, O.N. ok, Dan. aag, M.Du. joc, Du. juk, O.H.G. joh, Ger. joch, Goth. juk “yoke”), from Proto-Indo-European *jugom “joining” (see jugular). Figurative sense of “heavy burden, oppression, servitude” was in O.E. The verb is from O.E. geocian.
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jugular etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif1597, from Mod.L. jugularis, from L. jugulum “collarbone, throat, neck,” dim. of jugum “yoke,” related to iungere “to join,” from Proto-Indo-European *****yeug- “to join” (cf. Sanskrit yogah “union;” Hittite yugan “yoke;” Gk. zygon “yoke,” zeugnyanai “to join, unite;” O.C.S. igo, O.Welsh iou “yoke;” Lith. jungas “yoke,” jungiu “fastened in a yoke;” Old English geoc “yoke;” probably also L. iuxta “close by”).
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chris_molter said:
The same objections to Yoga can be used against Eastern Martial Arts, which, for the most part, contain some of the trappings of Shinto or Buddhism.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with either Yoga or Martial Arts, so long as the Christian involved is knowledgable and doesn’t delve into the esoteric aspects of either to the detriment of their faith.
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Aiki-do is the primary martial art that poses problems to believing Jews and believing Christians…because Eastern religion is very deeply woven into the practice of it.
 
Sepharad said:
Aiki-do is the primary martial art that poses problems to believing Jews and believing Christians…because Eastern religion is very deeply woven into the practice of it.
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And yet because it looks so gentle and artsy many are drawn into it thinking that they’re doing the right thing because it’s so peaceful.
 
LDNCatholic said:
And yet because it looks so gentle and artsy many are drawn into it thinking that they’re doing the right thing because it’s so peaceful.
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Gentle and artsy? I think you must be thinking of “Tai chi”.
 
SedesDomi said:
Matthew 11:28-30: “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

Bhagavad Gita 2:50: “Devote thyself to Yoga; Yoga is skill in action.”

Qur’an 50:16: “And indeed We have created man, and We know what his ownself whispers to him. And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.”

“Yoke”, “Yoga”, and “Jugular” are all connected.
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LOL! Your joking right?

The etymology of three words in three random scriptural quotes have a common indo-European root in their ENGLISH TRANSLATION. Perhaps if all three scriptural references were written at the same time, in the same language and the author had the intention of usuing that word in that context… then and only then you would have a case. Instead however, you must produce the Koine Greek word for the NT, the arabic (not even INDO-EUROPEAN)word for the Qu’ran, and Sanskrit word for the Hindu scriptures. Then you must prove that the word was not being used for jugular, yoke and yoga, but rather the word for “union”. There is reason that the ENGLISH TRANSLATION uses these three words and not their ancient indo-european root, that is, because the author did not have the intention of using the ancient root. Arabic isn’t even in the right linguistic family, I’m almost certain that you hit a brick wall right there.

But in all honestly, I hope this was a joke. I think a linguist would have a heart attack if he saw this argument.
 
Freshman88 said:
LOL! Your joking right?

The etymology of three words in three random scriptural quotes have a common indo-European root in their ENGLISH TRANSLATION. Perhaps if all three scriptural references were written at the same time, in the same language and the author had the intention of usuing that word in that context… then and only then you would have a case. Instead however, you must produce the Koine Greek word for the NT, the arabic (not even INDO-EUROPEAN)word for the Qu’ran, and Sanskrit word for the Hindu scriptures. Then you must prove that the word was not being used for jugular, yoke and yoga, but rather the word for “union”. There is reason that the ENGLISH TRANSLATION uses these three words and not their ancient indo-european root, that is, because the author did not have the intention of using the ancient root. Arabic isn’t even in the right linguistic family, I’m almost certain that you hit a brick wall right there.

But in all honestly, I hope this was a joke.
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First of all, the Greek and Sanskrit are in the etymologies cited, since both Greek and Sanskrit are Indo-European.

Second of all, the Greek for the English word “yoke” is in fact etymologically related both to the English word “yoke” and to the Sanskrit word “yoga”.

Third of all, everyone knows that the Arabic word for “jugular” isn’t related to the Indo-European word “jugular”.

And fourth of all, you need to get a sense of humor.😃
 
tomarin said:
Gentle and artsy? I think you must be thinking of “Tai chi”.
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Aikido-the way of harmony. No I think I’m on the right track here. It is gentle in that there are no strikes, and artsy in that it is flamboyant and focuses more on ‘‘art’’ than ‘‘martial’’.

Tai Chi is about the same. Flowery fists and embroidery kicks.
 
What if I introduced to you an exercise program that included rejecting Jesus in its mantras? Would you still feel the way you do?

Not quite sure what you are trying to say here??? it makes about as much sense as me asking “what if I gave you chocholate cake which had anti-Jesus flour in it”…

…one either follows Jesus and his teachings or one doesn’t. No amount of yoga or chanting in a language which you don’t understand, or eating anti Jesus chocholate cake is going to change this…
 
thomfra said:
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Not quite sure what you are trying to say here??? it makes about as much sense as me asking “what if I gave you chocholate cake which had anti-Jesus flour in it”…

…one either follows Jesus and his teachings or one doesn’t. No amount of yoga or chanting in a language which you don’t understand, or eating anti Jesus chocholate cake is going to change this…**

Actually, depending on the form and structure of the yoga sessions, the very words you ‘‘chant’’ can be a rejection of Christ. Your anti-Jesus flour arguements makes no sense, thats a given. But considering the spiritual nature of Yogic exercises, one must be very careful that it doesn’t go beyond exercise.
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LDNCatholic said:
Actually, depending on the form and structure of the yoga sessions, the very words you ‘‘chant’’ can be a rejection of Christ. Your anti-Jesus flour arguements makes no sense, thats a given. But considering the spiritual nature of Yogic exercises, one must be very careful that it doesn’t go beyond exercise.
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My point is that God knows what you are thinking. You can’t “accidently” reject him by saying some words in sandskrit.

Anyway, the exercises are a spiritual as you want to make them.
 
thomfra said:
My point is that God knows what you are thinking. You can’t “accidently” reject him by saying some words in sandskrit.
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Yes but you should learn what it is you are saying before you say it, including the intricacies within that language. Otherwise you are just mindlessly spewing out words.
 
People spew out all sorts of mindless dribble on this forum every day. Why should people who go to yoga have to learn all about the meaning of the chanting (Note: most yoga classes have no chanting anyway)???

You seem to know quite a lot about what the meaning of all these Sandskrit is. Maybe you can enlighten me?
 
If you must chant, chant the Hail Mary, otherwise it is good exercise. Lengthen and strengthen, aids circulation and helps with stress.

Yoga is great, but even if you don’t do yoga, do something. And don’t forget to warm-up before you start stretching.
 
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