"You must obey the governing authorities." Romans 13:1-7 Really?

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Greetings:

A non-Catholic friend pointed-out the above scripture in support of capital punishment. It is a shocking command from St. Paul considering legislation in place or pending. How is the Catholic to respond regarding other contrary laws such as abortion, gay marriage, and ObamaCare’s HHS mandate?

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice.

God’s peace…
Ed in Tampa
 
You have multiple topics listed. The answer is in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other papal encyclicals such as Evangelium Vitae (The Gospel of Life) and Humanae Vitae (On the Regulation of Human Births). And the USCCB website has information on the HHS mandate. But here’s the short of it. We are only obliged to obey legitimate just laws that don’t go against natural law. Any law that violates natural law is not a legitimate just law, so we are not obliged to obey that law. The answer for capital punishment is “it depends”. It is not comparable to intrinsic evils like abortion, “gay marriage” and other doctrines of demons.
 
Greetings:

A non-Catholic friend pointed-out the above scripture in support of capital punishment. It is a shocking command from St. Paul considering legislation in place or pending. How is the Catholic to respond regarding other contrary laws such as abortion, gay marriage, and ObamaCare’s HHS mandate?

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice.

God’s peace…
Ed in Tampa
Obedience to legitimate authority is a good that belongs both to natural law and divine revelation. It’s one of the few teachings relayed directly by Christ Himself (“render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s”), is echoed by St. Paul, and has been supported by the Church since basically the beginning.

We are obliged to obey authority when its commands are just. Now “abortion is legal” is not really a command, so the obligation to obey authority doesn’t really touch on it. “You must have an abortion” would be a command and an unjust one, so we’d be obligated to resist it. Likewise with “you must assist at a gay ‘wedding.’” Likewise, certainly, with “you must pay for other people’s contraception.” (There’s a good case to be made, though, that Catholics can in good conscience comply with the mandate on double-effect grounds).
 
No one has a moral obligation to obey the law if it means sinning.
 
We have to obey to our parents and bishop and state and the pope and God. What if they contradict each other then you have to choose. This is the reason for hierarchy, for example when a bishop goes into shims should we follow the bishop or the Church?
 
Greetings:

A non-Catholic friend pointed-out the above scripture in support of capital punishment. It is a shocking command from St. Paul considering legislation in place or pending. How is the Catholic to respond regarding other contrary laws such as abortion, gay marriage, and ObamaCare’s HHS mandate?

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice.

God’s peace…
Ed in Tampa
There is no law requiring homosexual unions, or requiring abortions - yet. We also have the duty as citizens to contribute to the public discourse, and make our objections known, so that the current state of affairs does not deteriorate even further.
 
There is no law requiring homosexual unions, or requiring abortions - yet.
Yes, this does provide important clarity; we are not currently being forced to engage in such abominations.

However, the HHS mandate does cross that line, by forcing believers to support monetarily, sinful acts, contrary to their religious beliefs. If this stands, the slope will become very slippery indeed; we’ll see a further push to criminalize Christianity, Catholicism in particular.
 
Greetings:

A non-Catholic friend pointed-out the above scripture in support of capital punishment. It is a shocking command from St. Paul considering legislation in place or pending. How is the Catholic to respond regarding other contrary laws such as abortion, gay marriage, and ObamaCare’s HHS mandate?

Thanks for any and all guidance and advice.

God’s peace…
Ed in Tampa
I asked my priest about this.

He said if the laws were inherently unjust, such as the HHS mandate, then we are not under any obligation to obey.
 
I’m a Protestant, but here is how I see it.

First, the resistance to the HHS Mandate through the courts is in accordance with the law. They are challenging them through the perfectly legal avenues of the courts. Ditto on peaceful protests against the law. Protesting is within the overall law and allowed by the first Amendment and in fact is a civil duty in American life to object to laws you find bad or unjust.

Second, there is civil disobedience, which is where you openly flout a law but, and this is a big BUT, accept the punishments laid down by the law because you still respect the legal authority as legitimate but are protesting an unjust law.
In the 60s blacks sat at whites-only counters and were arrested and accepted the arrest as the legal punishment. Sitting at white-only counters was illegal and the law was passed by the legitimate, legal authority.
And in the late-70s many Americans carried out a form of civil disobedience in response to the lowering of the speed limit on Interstates.
Civil Disobedience has the effect of first, forcing the people and authority to confront the fact that they have an immoral law by making them witness the punishments they put on you or, as in the second case, rendering them unenforceable.

The third is Revolution. It is the use of violence against the government. This is when you no longer acknowledge the government as the legitimate authority and believe that the only way to change it is through violent overthrow. It is not something to be taken lightly.
Here is Thomas Jefferson on the subject.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

The HHS Mandate is, for now, a sufferable evil -and one that, under the present system, can be challenged. Not something worth revolting about. Thankfully, I hear none supporting this act in response to the Mandate.
 
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