Young Singers Spread Racist Hate

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(this is a little sad, IMO)

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.
 
Not a good thing by any means, but replace the word ‘white’ with ‘black’ and re-read :

“We’re proud of being black, we want to keep being black,” said Lynx. “We want our people to stay black … we don’t want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race.”

How many times have we heard things like this (above) and not have it labeled as racist?
 
If it were only a message of, “We’re proud of being white, we want to keep being white,” maybe it wouldn’t seem so bad.

But these are girls who were raised with swastikas, girls who have recorded a song in tribute to Rudolf Hess.

The parents are benefitting from managing these children and even David Duke benefits from their appearances and their ability to draw a crowd.

So, you basically have two beautiful children aping parents who appear to have all the intelligence of a couple of eggplants - and who are being used by forces of evil to promote bigotry and Aryan superiority.
Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.
One of Sugg’s songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: “Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain’t white you’ll be dead.”
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“I’d like to compare it to gangsta rap,” explained Sugg, “where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores.”
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Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that “it’s just music, it’s not like you’re handing out AK-47s.”
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These children are owned.

I beg to differ with the contention that you’re not handing out AK47’s - when you make hate something to emulate to impressionable children, you may as well be providing guns.

Yes, it is incredibly sad. It’s always sad to me to read about the children being raised in hate - but something like this, where the children are being used to make bigotry cool and desirable… Heaven help us!
 
Why does the popular culture tell us to reject one evil, while embracing another evil?
 
Well, I wanted to do some research before responding to this one. This is especially so because the source is ABC which has ZERO credibility (can you say fake documents?).

As someone else said, it is very telling that “white pride” is Hate while “Black pride”, Jewish pride", or any other kind of pride is just fine. You even have despicable vermin like Queen Latifa who have spouted the most vile racist hate and openly promoted racial violence who are now huge stars in Hollywood. No problems there?

I went to the site these girls have up and read some lyrics. There is no hate there at all. No promotion of violence, no claim that evil Jews are running the world, no claims that anyone is subhuman, etc. What is there is pride in their heritage, loose references to Germanic lore, and lamenting the loss of rights and freedom. Do not be so quick to criticize or attack someone without looking into it yourself. Especially if the source is something like ABC.

I also found it interesting that an appearance by the girls at a fair had to be cancelled at the last minute because of security concerns over threats of violence from radicals who saw the ABC garbage and wanted to protest. There was no problem with the girls or their fans but the supposedly non-violent, non-hateful hate “watch groups” who oppose people like these girls were again threatening public violence. Who is promoting hate here?
 
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ElizabethJoy:
But these are girls who were raised with swastikas, girls who have recorded a song in tribute to Rudolf Hess.
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I could not find any reference to Hess on their site but any tribute to him would probably be based on the fact that after lengthy discussions through the Duke of Windsor, Hess flew to England to attempt to bring about an end of hostilities between Germany and Britian. In many circles it has always been questioned why he was kept in prison longer than any other German even though he left Germany long before any of the Holocaust events occurred. The U.S. requested his release several times but it was always blocked by Britian. What did he know that they did not want made public? The fact that the war could have been over years earlier, even before the U.S entered it?
Yes, it is incredibly sad. It’s always sad to me to read about the children being raised in hate - but something like this, where the children are being used to make bigotry cool and desirable… Heaven help us
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Read my previous post about the content of their site. No hate at all. There is however much hate in those who attack them. You should not jump to conclusions about people without looking into it yourself.
 
Here’s a link to the girl’s web site.

prussianblue.net/

After a very quick scan, I didn’t see anything that compares to the divisive, hateful, racism spoken by Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and many gangsta rappas every day. Perhaps someone will examine the PrussianBlue website in more detail and expose the racist hate.

Every city has regular black pride marches, meetings and TV programming, no problem. But if any city dared to have a white pride march, meeting or TV program what would happen? I dunno, but riots, looting and a city in flames come to mind. So, where’s the racist hate in 2005?

Black pride, gay pride, you-name-it pride = GOOD.
White pride = BAD.

I’m not saying lets all go to a white pride march, just asking why it’s so different than a black pride march.
 
I don’t know what site you where looking at, but I had a good look around. I clicked on a few of the links and ended up in some scary sites! I think you might be confusing Queet Latifa with someone else. She is pretty mainstream, was even nominated for an academy award for her role in Chicago. And I’m pretty sure it was CBS, not ABC that was involvled in the fake document controvery.

I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to post the lyrics to their songs, so I didn’t. You might want to take a take a look at them.

The whole thing made me extremly sad.

Peace,
MSGirl ❤️
 
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cargopilot:
Here’s a link to the girl’s web site.

prussianblue.net/

After a very quick scan, I didn’t see anything that compares to the divisive, hateful, racism spoken by Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and many gangsta rappas every day. Perhaps someone will examine the PrussianBlue website in more detail and expose the racist hate.
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If you didn’t see anything on that site that compares to the hate of the people you gave as examples, then you didn’t want to. Did you perhaps notice their praising theme of a movement in history, and of a man who killed millions in the name of racist hate? They openly wear it on their sleeve figuratively, and on their shirts, literally.
Every city has regular black pride marches, meetings and TV programming, no problem. But if any city dared to have a white pride march, meeting or TV program what would happen? I dunno, but riots, looting and a city in flames come to mind. So, where’s the racist hate in 2005?

Black pride, gay pride, you-name-it pride = GOOD.
White pride = BAD.
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Have you ever seen a real “white pride” parade? One that advocated pride, rather than power, and one that wasn’t wed to an organization with an ideology of hate, and depriving other races of essential rights and freedoms? Now, it’s not to say that there aren’t hateful black organizations, like the Nation of Islam, who operate under the guise of “pride,” or even “unity.” Everybody knows about them. But they are not anymore well-received by the general public than these little girls are…they’re just less threatening, because they are of a minority that collectively holds little power in our society.
 
As for the subject matter of the topic, though, I’m sure all this media coverage is the best thing to happen to these girls, since it’s likely that no one ever heard of them before, or cared.
 
That article made me smile, it’s nice to see how much we have failed as a society.
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cargopilot:
Black pride, gay pride, you-name-it pride = GOOD.
White pride = BAD.

I’m not saying lets all go to a white pride march, just asking why it’s so different than a black pride march.
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People who have or are being oppressed have pride parades, white pride is like “You know what, I’m glad that I’ve descriminated and oppressed so many people because they were a bit diffrent from me.”
 
sea oat said:
…Did you perhaps notice their praising theme of a movement in history, and of a man who killed millions in the name of racist hate? They openly wear it on their sleeve figuratively, and on their shirts, literally…
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I do not know what site you went to but I went to theirs again and I did not see any mention of the “movement” or “man” you speak of nor did I see even one swastika.
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TheBlackGhost:
People who have or are being oppressed have pride parades, white pride is like “You know what, I’m glad that I’ve descriminated and oppressed so many people because they were a bit diffrent from me.”
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Ah yes, the “only whites can be predjudiced” nonsense again. I guess you forgot that it was whites in this country who ended slavery and that it still goes on in other parts of the world, most notably Africa, where rival groups regularly kidnap and sell each others’ people. And as far as oppression and suffering goes, the things that people in this country (no matter what their color) have experienced pales in comparison to what many (especially Christians) living in Africa and Asia endure right now.
 
When the parents themselves tell the news media that their registered personal cattlebrand is a swastika and inform the media as to the white supremacist views which they have taught their children, I have no reason to disbelieve them. (However much I disbelieve ABC, just on principle)

And the girls’ site may not contain tributes to Hess, but one of their songs was recorded to honor him.

For crying out loud - a tribute to Hitler’s deputy! That’s sick!

For the blood of how many is he responsible? Is there anything he did which excuses what he was and what he did?

You don’t pay any kind of tribute to that kind of hate. You don’t give the appearance that that kind of hate is even socially acceptable behavior.

But that is exactly what these teeny-boppers are doing - they are making it cool to be racist, just like some of the black leaders make it cool to hate whitey. They’re all wrong because hate is wrong!

Proud to be white - :rolleyes: - what the heck does that even mean?

Should I boast of George Washington’s works since he and I are of the same heritage and skin color? Can I not be equally glad for the achievements of George Washington Carver, even though he and I are not?

Heaven, help us poor humanoids… when will we stop looking at color or seeing color?

When can our race cease to be something of which we are either proud or ashamed? We have grounds for neither!

We didn’t choose it and we certainly didn’t create it!

This is all painfully stupid.
 
Okay, I just looked up the website and yeah…SCARY! Please, if you didn’t see anything wrong go back and look at LYRICS. Very interesting song about Rudolph Hess called “Sacrifice” and another doozie called “Aryan Man Wake Up!”

Sweet and harmless? I think not.
 
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2shelbys:
Ah yes, the “only whites can be predjudiced” nonsense again. I guess you forgot that it was whites in this country who ended slavery and that it still goes on in other parts of the world, most notably Africa, where rival groups regularly kidnap and sell each others’ people. And as far as oppression and suffering goes, the things that people in this country (no matter what their color) have experienced pales in comparison to what many (especially Christians) living in Africa and Asia endure right now.
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Did I mention Africa at all? I was not aware I was talking about the socialization of Africa. I’m pretty sure I was talking about racisim in this country. And white’s have ended slavery? There are tons of white’s that also created slavery, including that of this country (The United States of America, not to be confused with Africa) so that entire statement is pretty void.

I’m sorry if that sounded like a personal attack at all, but I mean cmon.
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2shelbys:
I do not know what site you went to but I went to theirs again and I did not see any mention of the “movement” or “man” you speak of nor did I see even one swastika.
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First of all, scroll down to the bottom of the page, and look at the lefthand corner. Do you see the box that says “National Vanguard?” Google it, and look at what it is, if you don’t already know. Then, scroll back up, and find on the tab on the left side of the screen that says “lyrics.” Click on it, and READ THEM. Afterward, click on the “links” tab, and look at what’s there…particularly stormfront.org.

I just don’t see how it can’t be anymore obvious that they espouse white nationalist/neo-nazi movement ideology, since they’re about as open about it as you can be.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/images/prusblue.jpg
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When the parents themselves tell the news media that their registered personal cattlebrand is a swastika
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Then you also read that their father did so only for the “shock value” and to prove (apparantly to himself) that he had the “free speech” right to do so.
And the girls’ site
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may not contain tributes to Hess, but one of their songs was recorded to honor him.
For crying out loud - a tribute to Hitler’s deputy! That’s sick!
For the blood of how many is he responsible? Is there anything he did which excuses what he was and what he did?

If they did a song to honor him they do not mention it anywhere on their own site as far as I saw but I did not read every word there.
Your knowledge of history in this area is weak but this is the case with almost everyone who has not studied independently. As I said in an earlier post, Hess (whether it was sanctioned by Hitler or the act of a crazy person) left Germany long before any of the Holocaust events took place to try to end hostilities. Even when he was Hitler’s deputy he had no real power or influence. Hess may not be praiseworthy but he was also not the monster you believe him to be. He could best be described as a sad little man of little consequence to history.
Proud to be white - :rolleyes: - what the heck does that even mean?
Should I boast of George Washington’s works since he and I are of the same heritage and skin color? Can I not be equally glad for the achievements of George Washington Carver, even though he and I are not?
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It means just as much, or just as little, as any other kind of race-based pride. I tend to put more value on national pride which glorifies the achievements of any and all Americans regardless of color or background. That does not mean that we are better or worse than anyone else, just that we can be proud of most (though admittedly not all) of what our nation has done.
Heaven, help us poor humanoids… when will we stop looking at color or seeing color?
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An unfortunate fact of human nature is our instinct to identify with and be more comfortable with those who are similar to us. Old habits are hard to break.
When can our race cease to be something of which we are either proud or ashamed? We have grounds for neither!
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Pride that unites people is great. Pride that divides us is the problem. Being proud of your own people (whether white, black, or whatever) without allowing it to convince you that you are somehow superior to others is perfectly harmless.
 
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