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dcastlen50
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Amen:thumbsup:
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djeter
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And one more from Pascal:
If God had wished to overcome the obstinacy of the most hardened he could have done so by revealing himself to them so plainly that they could not doubt the truth of his essence, as he will appear on the last day with such thunder and lightening and such convulsions of nature that the dead will rise up and the blindest will see him.
This is not the way he wished to appear when he came in mildness, because so many men had shown themselves unworthy of his clemency, that he wished to deprive them of the good they did not desire. It was therefore not right that he should appear in a manner manifestly divine and absolutely capable of convincing all men, but neither was it right that his coming should be so hidden that he could not be recognized by those who sincerely sought him. He wished to make himself perfectly recognizable to them.
Thus wishing to appear openly to those who seek him with all their heart and hidden from those who shun him with all their heart he has qualified our knowledge of him by giving signs which can be seen by those who seek him and not by those who do not. ‘There is enough light for those who desire only to see and enough darkness for those of a contrary disposition.”
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The principle of deus absconditus. It still befuddles most atheists.
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If God had wished to overcome the obstinacy of the most hardened he could have done so by revealing himself to them so plainly that they could not doubt the truth of his essence, as he will appear on the last day with such thunder and lightening and such convulsions of nature that the dead will rise up and the blindest will see him.
This is not the way he wished to appear when he came in mildness, because so many men had shown themselves unworthy of his clemency, that he wished to deprive them of the good they did not desire. It was therefore not right that he should appear in a manner manifestly divine and absolutely capable of convincing all men, but neither was it right that his coming should be so hidden that he could not be recognized by those who sincerely sought him. He wished to make himself perfectly recognizable to them.
Thus wishing to appear openly to those who seek him with all their heart and hidden from those who shun him with all their heart he has qualified our knowledge of him by giving signs which can be seen by those who seek him and not by those who do not. ‘There is enough light for those who desire only to see and enough darkness for those of a contrary disposition.”
Pensées 149
The principle of deus absconditus. It still befuddles most atheists.
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bosonhiggs
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I will look into it, thank youIf you are studying astrophysics you are obligated to read Hugh Ross. go to his web sight Reasons to Believe. He has a story that is one of the most compelling regarding the bible and science. I am currently reading one of his many publications/books “Beyond the Cosmos.” If you know the language of science, you would jump out of your mind when you apply scientific tools you have to find a Creator God and then discover that Person is Jesus Christ. Be ready for a jump shock like you have never had.
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Charlemagne_II
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James Clerk Maxwell Electromagnetism, Maxwell’s Equations
“I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen none that will not work without God.”
Lord William Kelvin Laws of Thermodynamics, absolute temperature scale
“I believe that the more thoroughly science is studied, the further does it take us from anything comparable to atheism.”
“I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen none that will not work without God.”
Lord William Kelvin Laws of Thermodynamics, absolute temperature scale
“I believe that the more thoroughly science is studied, the further does it take us from anything comparable to atheism.”
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4Horsemen
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“Bridges once wrote Gerard Manley Hopkins and asked him to tell him how he, Bridges, could believe. Bridges was an agnostic. Hopkins wrote back, ‘Give alms.’”
(Flannery O’Connor)
“Never trust a man who has no enemies.” (Winston Churchill)
“I am hanging in the balance
of a perfect, finished plan.
Like every sparrow fallen
Like every grain of sand.”
(Bob Dylan)
“All artists love what they give birth to–parents love their children; poets love their poems; craftsmen love their handiwork. How then could God hate a single thing since God is the artist of everything?” (Thomas Aquinas)
“None of us lives as his own master;
none of us dies as his own master. . .
Both in life and death; we are the Lord’s.”
(Rom. 14:7-8)
(Flannery O’Connor)
“Never trust a man who has no enemies.” (Winston Churchill)
“I am hanging in the balance
of a perfect, finished plan.
Like every sparrow fallen
Like every grain of sand.”
(Bob Dylan)
“All artists love what they give birth to–parents love their children; poets love their poems; craftsmen love their handiwork. How then could God hate a single thing since God is the artist of everything?” (Thomas Aquinas)
“None of us lives as his own master;
none of us dies as his own master. . .
Both in life and death; we are the Lord’s.”
(Rom. 14:7-8)
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Charlemagne_II
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“The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral crises maintain their neutrality.” Dante
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rwillenborg
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I’m nto sure who said it, maybe not even a philosopher, but
“God doesn’t call the equipped. He equips the called.”
“God doesn’t call the equipped. He equips the called.”
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Charlemagne_II
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Thomas Becket
“It is dangerous to men in power if no one dares to tell them when they go wrong.”
“It is dangerous to men in power if no one dares to tell them when they go wrong.”
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ricmat
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“Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed.” — G.K. Chesterton
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ricmat
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Those who are never satisfied with passing things must be satisfied with everlasting hunger - Mechthild of Magdeburg
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Charlemagne_II
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“It is not fitting, when one is in God’s service, to have a gloomy face or a chilling look.” St. Francis of Assisi
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4Horsemen
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“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” (Plato)
“I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into Heaven and say there is no God.”
(Abraham Lincoln)
“The fundamental fact of human awareness is this: I am lfe that wants to live in the midst of other life that wants to live. A thinking man feels compelled to approach all life with the same reverence he has for his own. Thus, all life becomes part of his own experiences. From such a point of view, ‘good’ means to maintain life, to further life, to bring developing life to its highest value. ‘Evil’ means to destroy life, to hurt life, to keep life from developing. This, then is the rational, universal and basic principle of ethics.”
“We have to carry Our Lord in places where He has not walked before; therefore, we must be consumed with one desire - JESUS - and always keep His interests continually in our hearts and minds. This LOVE FOR CHRIST, which is our one aim in life and our joy, will urge us to spend ourselves without ceasing.” (Mother Teresa)
“Men of genius are admired. Men of wealth are envied. Men of power are feared, but only men of character are trusted.” (Arthur Friedman)
“I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into Heaven and say there is no God.”
(Abraham Lincoln)
“The fundamental fact of human awareness is this: I am lfe that wants to live in the midst of other life that wants to live. A thinking man feels compelled to approach all life with the same reverence he has for his own. Thus, all life becomes part of his own experiences. From such a point of view, ‘good’ means to maintain life, to further life, to bring developing life to its highest value. ‘Evil’ means to destroy life, to hurt life, to keep life from developing. This, then is the rational, universal and basic principle of ethics.”
“We have to carry Our Lord in places where He has not walked before; therefore, we must be consumed with one desire - JESUS - and always keep His interests continually in our hearts and minds. This LOVE FOR CHRIST, which is our one aim in life and our joy, will urge us to spend ourselves without ceasing.” (Mother Teresa)
“Men of genius are admired. Men of wealth are envied. Men of power are feared, but only men of character are trusted.” (Arthur Friedman)
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John21652
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Which sort of fits in with what Edmund Bourke once said -
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
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Charlemagne_II
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“Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love.” 
Isaac Newton
Isaac Newton
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Marc_Anthony
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I LOVE this thread.
I have to say, I think my favorite quote comes from St. Augustine:
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”
This quote is just amazing.
I have to say, I think my favorite quote comes from St. Augustine:
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”
This quote is just amazing.
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dcastlen50
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1Cor 13
“Though I speak with the tongues of…
Love is…”
I think we all should have to memorized this chapter.
“Though I speak with the tongues of…
Love is…”
I think we all should have to memorized this chapter.
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Charlemagne_II
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“The friendship that can cease has never been real.” Saint Jerome
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Marc_Anthony
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“If we all fight fire with fire then the whole world will go up in smoke.” (Paraphrased)
-David Handler, under the pseudonym Lemony Snicket. Said by character Violet Baudelaire.
“I do not agree with a word you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
-Voltaire (an Atheist Philosopher I believe, but I love this quote)
-David Handler, under the pseudonym Lemony Snicket. Said by character Violet Baudelaire.
“I do not agree with a word you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
-Voltaire (an Atheist Philosopher I believe, but I love this quote)
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Charlemagne_II
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*Voltaire (an Atheist Philosopher I believe, but I love this quote) *
This is from Voltaire’s essay “On Atheism.”
“The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly, and who not being able to understand the creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis of the eternity of things and of inevitability….That was how things went with the Roman Senate which was almost entirely composed of atheists in theory and in practice, that is to say, who believed in neither a Providence nor a future life; this senate was an assembly of philosophers, of sensualists and ambitious men, all very dangerous men, who ruined the republic."
This is from Voltaire’s essay “On Atheism.”
“The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly, and who not being able to understand the creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis of the eternity of things and of inevitability….That was how things went with the Roman Senate which was almost entirely composed of atheists in theory and in practice, that is to say, who believed in neither a Providence nor a future life; this senate was an assembly of philosophers, of sensualists and ambitious men, all very dangerous men, who ruined the republic."
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Marc_Anthony
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Ah, whatever. The quote is still great.
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