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VanitasVanitatum
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Mary is superior to us spiritually and has more of an “influence” if you will.
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jesusmademe
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I’ve always wondered why Protestantism don’t use the name Mother of God. In a debate with Mitch Pacwa (you’ll find it online) a Protestant said that God can’t have a mother since God is the creator Himself. Ok, we all agrre with that but we are refering to a biological mother when Jesus came to earth. How hard should it be to get this?!
My question is: do we fully understand all the terms/names given to God and Mary? Do we know what fathethood, motherhood, kinghood/kingship (or whatever it is called), being a sibling is all about?
When praying the Rosary we are to meditate on all of this, right?
My question is: do we fully understand all the terms/names given to God and Mary? Do we know what fathethood, motherhood, kinghood/kingship (or whatever it is called), being a sibling is all about?
When praying the Rosary we are to meditate on all of this, right?
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MariaChristi
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Dear Jesusmademe,
Your profile page tells me: “Religion: Christianity and soon catholic i hope”. If you are hoping to be Catholic, do you have a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to which you can refer? I would strongly urge you to purchase a copy of the second Revised Edition ; see HERE
There is an excellent index in which you can find many references to Mary. For example in paragraph 971 , the CCC states:
Your profile page tells me: “Religion: Christianity and soon catholic i hope”. If you are hoping to be Catholic, do you have a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to which you can refer? I would strongly urge you to purchase a copy of the second Revised Edition ; see HERE
There is an excellent index in which you can find many references to Mary. For example in paragraph 971 , the CCC states:
The Rosary needs to be meditated upon in the light of the Gospel. Hope you’ll read the catechism; there is also an online version of the CCC if you are interested in looking at that , see HERE
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jesusmademe
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Besides the CCC what to read or listen to?
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Justin_Mary
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Fulton Sheen. Check him out on YouTube.
Sister Bethany Madonna.
I still like Father Corapi
Sister Bethany Madonna.
I still like Father Corapi
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MariaChristi
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Do you have a copy of the Catechism? I hope you will purchase one if you do not have a copy. If you begin reading Part 4, (The Section on Prayer) you 'll discover much good material. As I suggested in my last post, the Catechism has an excellent index – you can look up the word “Mary” in the index and and find many beautiful Truths about the Church’s devotion to Mary and the Church’s teaching about God’s Plan for her as well as His Plan for all His children. The index is not in the online version. There is a Table of Contents in the online version but no “subject index”. Having your own hardback book is far better so you can keep it to make notes in the margins or underline words or passages or paragraph numbers. Whatever helps you to learn best – and always begin any study with prayer to the Holy Spirit.
Notice the word “intrinsic” in paragraph 971 which I copied in my last post. That word is very important since the word means “essential” – other synonyms are: “inherent”, “innate” “belonging naturally” – we really need to learn more about Mary in order to worship God truly. “The Church’s devotion to Mary is “intrinsic” to Christian worship”. The CCC put the word intrinsic in italics to emphasize it, but I put it in bold to emphasize it even more.
In reading the Catechism you’ll notice most of the footnotes will direct you to passages of both Old and New Testaments, as well as other references from Saints and Church documents. Scripture is always our Primary Source. Hope you will continue to seek to know Mary better. She will always lead you to a closer relationship with her Son.
I believe she also helps us to love one another as Jesus loves us.
Notice the word “intrinsic” in paragraph 971 which I copied in my last post. That word is very important since the word means “essential” – other synonyms are: “inherent”, “innate” “belonging naturally” – we really need to learn more about Mary in order to worship God truly. “The Church’s devotion to Mary is “intrinsic” to Christian worship”. The CCC put the word intrinsic in italics to emphasize it, but I put it in bold to emphasize it even more.
In reading the Catechism you’ll notice most of the footnotes will direct you to passages of both Old and New Testaments, as well as other references from Saints and Church documents. Scripture is always our Primary Source. Hope you will continue to seek to know Mary better. She will always lead you to a closer relationship with her Son.
I believe she also helps us to love one another as Jesus loves us.
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jesusmademe
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I have the shorter/smaller cathechism, lilla katekesen.
Should I also read the bigger/greater or is the shorter ok?
Should I also read the bigger/greater or is the shorter ok?
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Mary888
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I see it more as a sign of showing God and the Angels respect to Mary. Some priests say Mary performs miracles in her own name others say it is Jesus showing us He is pleased with His Mother being venerated.
How about praying directly to other Saints?
If you feel like God is not centered enough when you pray to one or another saint, please remember that all rituals of praying include prayers to the Father, also include the Creed, so God is being worshipped first and foremost even in the Rosary.
If you don’t enjoy talking and praying directly to Mary, freely, like some people do, you don’t have to do it. The Church teaches the ritual prayers and like I’ve said those begin by worshipping God first and asking guidance from the Holy Spirit to be able to talk with the saint.
Just like you don’t relate to your parents like Jesus does, also most likely your parents would never accept if you wanted to sacrifice yourself on the crucifix to save the world. We are different than Jesus and Mary, their relationship is unique.
How about praying directly to other Saints?
If you feel like God is not centered enough when you pray to one or another saint, please remember that all rituals of praying include prayers to the Father, also include the Creed, so God is being worshipped first and foremost even in the Rosary.
If you don’t enjoy talking and praying directly to Mary, freely, like some people do, you don’t have to do it. The Church teaches the ritual prayers and like I’ve said those begin by worshipping God first and asking guidance from the Holy Spirit to be able to talk with the saint.
Just like you don’t relate to your parents like Jesus does, also most likely your parents would never accept if you wanted to sacrifice yourself on the crucifix to save the world. We are different than Jesus and Mary, their relationship is unique.
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MariaChristi
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If your shorter version has the index it might be helpful but I still believe the 2nd Revised Edition with Index and Glossary are the best for getting serious about understanding what the Catholic Church teaches and has taught for centuries.
Since your initial question concerned Mary, I would use the index and read all the references to Mary from the Catechism as a “start”. Mary is both Mother and Model for the Church for she is human as we are human. Jesus has two Natures in One Person and this “Hypostatic Union” of two natures in one Divine Person, is a mystery we cannot fully comprehend with our limited intellects, but God so loved us He willed to send Jesus through a human Mother – so that Jesus assuming a human Nature while never ceasing to be Son of God having a Divine Nature might bceome like us in all things except sin.
When Jesus told John, His Beloved Disciple from His Cross:
Since your initial question concerned Mary, I would use the index and read all the references to Mary from the Catechism as a “start”.
Mary is both Mother and Model for the Church for she is human as we are human. Jesus has two Natures in One Person and this “Hypostatic Union” of two natures in one Divine Person, is a mystery we cannot fully comprehend with our limited intellects, but God so loved us He willed to send Jesus through a human Mother – so that Jesus assuming a human Nature while never ceasing to be Son of God having a Divine Nature might bceome like us in all things except sin.When Jesus told John, His Beloved Disciple from His Cross:
Jesus spoke those words for all of us to hear and do as John did i.e. to take Mary into not just our homes but into our lives and see by God’s Grace, how Mary learned from pondering in her heart, all Jesus said and did. May we all by God’s Grace learn to be meek and humble of heart, and grow in holiness – learning from Jesus through Mary.
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