Your thoughts on Joy Behar?

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Whatevergirl, I am not pointing my comment at you, I am simply using your post to make a point, so please don’t take offense to what I am going to say. There are many posts that are simillar I just happened to borrow yours.

My concern here is that too many of us good Catholics are sitting around doing nothing while the rest of the world is bashing our faith. FWIW, I don’t watch The View either, but I do watch the news so I know about the commnets made by Joy Behar. I worry about the people who do watch this show. Do they have young children who also watch? Do these sort of comments have an effect on Catholics who have strayed from the church? And for that matter, are they appropriate at all?

For those of you who dismiss this as a simple comedy bit, or as something that doesn’t warrant any attention, I am somewhat alarmed. I am concerned when so many Catholics are willing to just let things like this go. How far do we allow this to go? Are we not called to defend our faith? As a member of the Knights of Columbus, I know that I am called to defend the church.

Now don’t get me wrong. I am not surprised by these comments, but they do bother me. They should bother evrery Catholic on the face of the earth. Yes, we should all be sending e-mails to this show and making are complaints. Yes, we should all be standing up and defending our church.

Someone once told me that in order to live a full life, a person must become aware of being unaware. In other words, wake up and look around. Turning the other cheek is not always the correct answer. We can not allow ourselves to fall into this trap of being de-sensitized like the rest of the world. Does anyone ever wonder why pornography and teen sex is so acceptable to the secular world now? It’s the “Oh well it doesn’t bother me, so I don’t care.” attitude. We as Catholics can and should do better.

I’ll get off my soapbox now, but please consider sending an e-mail to The View and sharing your comments with them.

disclaimer If I seem a bit riled up, it’s a combination of the coffee and the conservitive talk radio I’ve been listening to lately!😃
Hi Rich;

Although I said Joy’s view doesn’t matter to me, I never said that I have an ‘I don’t care’ attitude about porn and teen sex type shows on tv. There is a big distinction. First, this is America and you can say a lot of things disguised as jokes on tv these days, and in my humble opinion, I didn’t (personally) see Joy as bashing our faith. I have seen her say similiar comments about Jews, gays, and other groups of people. Not that this makes 'attacking’Catholics ok, by any stretch–but I didn’t see her as doing that, personally. I agree that we should not allow others to bash our faith. Where I can make a difference, is in my workplace. In my neighborhood. I can also write a few emails to NBC or whatever network The View is aired, but I don’t think the networks will change their programming because a group of upset Catholics ask them to. I am an optimist, but I’m also a realist, and I think we make bigger differences if we petition locally, to ask our neighbors, people at school, whatever, to not watch such shows. The NBC/CBS/ABC empires are not going to change something that makes them money. They are all about money,but if suddenly the viewing audience dropped, they would start taking a look at why.

I use the analogy of how Paramount let Tom Cruise go. Why? Not sure if they received emails, but I read that they were losing money because people stopped seeing his movies. (because of his unpredictable and outlandish behavior on talk shows, and personal life up and downs) Ignoring Tom Cruise, caused Paramount to lose money. When I say ignore, I mean to not watch the program. Not ignore so much that people are bashing our faith–let me make that distinction. I encourage everyone to take a stance for our faith, but in ways that will truly work. Getting upset and letting it ruin my day, and sending some emails to the network will not cause it to stop. As long as they make money, Joy will continue to be heard. It’s sad. But, it’s the way of America. If we want to instill our values, we have to start in our families, in our backyards, in our schools, in our parishes. I think getting people to not watch The View, and other negative shows like this, is where we start.

This is just my opinion.:o If you want to write emails, that is your call. If you want to send emails to the advertisers, that is your call. The better way to dismantle a show, is to get people to stop watching it. I’m not desensitized, I just see a different way to skin a cat here, that’s all. 😉 Thank you for your comment. I hope that you see my points.
 
Whatevergirl, I do see you points as very valid, and again I hope you don’t think I was pointing any of my comments directly at you.

Remember, I did say that I don’t watch the show. I work form home, so it’s not like I can’t sneak over and watch a little tv if I choose. I do boycott certain shows and movies as well as not buy music from certain musical artists. I do believe that boycotting works, but I am concerned that there is not enough of it.

You said, " I don’t think the networks will change their programming because a group of upset Catholics ask them to."

If that is the case, then I’m not sure they will take notice if we boycott the show. I believe a combination fo the two would work better.
 
Whatevergirl, I do see you points as very valid, and again I hope you don’t think I was pointing any of my comments directly at you.

Remember, I did say that I don’t watch the show. I work form home, so it’s not like I can’t sneak over and watch a little tv if I choose. I do boycott certain shows and movies as well as not buy music from certain musical artists. I do believe that boycotting works, but I am concerned that there is not enough of it.

You said, " I don’t think the networks will change their programming because a group of upset Catholics ask them to."

If that is the case, then I’m not sure they will take notice if we boycott the show. I believe a combination fo the two would work better.
Yes, Rich, you could be right.:hmmm: What do you mean by boycott? I think if less people watched the show, they would be off the air. That is how shows get removed from the air. What might be a more fair thing to say also, is that are we wanting that show off the air, or for talk show hosts, etc, to show respect to our faith? I am curious if shows should be adhering to an ‘off limits’ model, as far as what can and cannot be discussed on a regular tv show. If a show is designed to interview celebs, like the View, then maybe they could have something that is off limits for their panel to discuss. But, where would that line be drawn? I rememeber when swear words were off limits, and nudity. Now, at 10pm, you can watch a network show (I don’t, but can see when flipping the channels) semi-nudity, and lots of obscene language.

I don’t think the media, which is largely anti-Catholic, is going to change any time soon, unless we don’t watch the programming, and tell others why we are not, and encourage them not to…especially our Christian friends!
 
My concern here is that too many of us good Catholics are sitting around doing nothing while the rest of the world is bashing our faith. FWIW, I don’t watch The View either, but I do watch the news so I know about the commnets made by Joy Behar. I worry about the people who do watch this show. Do they have young children who also watch? Do these sort of comments have an effect on Catholics who have strayed from the church? And for that matter, are they appropriate at all?
Rich, our God and our Church can survive some entertainer saying bad things about them.

We are not Muslims who have to react every time our God/Church is spoken ill of.

She’s entitled to her opinion. We can survive it.
 
Rich, our God and our Church can survive some entertainer saying bad things about them.

We are not Muslims who have to react every time our God/Church is spoken ill of.

She’s entitled to her opinion. We can survive it.
That is a great thought, Paul, and really what I was trying to say. You said it better, and more concisely.😃

There is a balance–we should react in ways that matter and will make a difference.
 
Here issomething that sends me into an outrage. When I hear about lay people teaching at Catholic schools, and watering down the faith. When I hear about Catholic bashers coming to speak at Catholic universities (not to bash the faith, of course, but to speak about a topic–they should not be invited if they have been cited as being degrading to and of our faith) When I hear newscasts that should be delivering facts only, and they put their little non Catholic/Catholic jab into the commentary. That upsets me more than a talk show host on a liberal program, speaking against the Church, whether joking or not. (I do think she was attempting to be funny–even though it wasn’t) Liberal shows are designed to draw liberal audiences. They are not mediums to convert anyone, and if a Catholic could be that easily swayed against his/her own faith, then I question the foundation of that person’s faith to begin with.

That being said, the above mentioned things do get me upset! If we are starting to see such things happening WITHIN our Catholic schools/universities, why are we surprised to see this on a liberal talk show?:o
 
Here issomething that sends me into an outrage. When I hear about lay people teaching at Catholic schools, and watering down the faith. When I hear about Catholic bashers coming to speak at Catholic universities (not to bash the faith, of course, but to speak about a topic–they should not be invited if they have been cited as being degrading to and of our faith) When I hear newscasts that should be delivering facts only, and they put their little non Catholic/Catholic jab into the commentary.
I’m right there with you. I’d rather spend my time dealing with the married couple doing marriage prep for others that tells them wink wink how to get around the teaching on ABC or the catechist who has an erroneous view of salvation.

If those women on the The View aren’t generating controversy they aren’t happy, are they? 🤷
 
Well Bill O’reilly named her a “Pinhead” on the O’reilly Factor. So at least someone has some brains in the media. I also think he’s done a great job at keeping these nutjobs in check!
 
I’m right there with you. I’d rather spend my time dealing with the married couple doing marriage prep for others that tells them wink wink how to get around the teaching on ABC or the catechist who has an erroneous view of salvation.

If those women on the The View aren’t generating controversy they aren’t happy, are they? 🤷
Not that I laugh at her comments, but we have plenty of work to do within our own parishes, and universities, to protect our faith, and people attacking it. Just because someone teaches in a Catholic school, doesn’t mean that he/she believes what he/she teaches to be true. That is so scary to me. My son’s religious education teacher last year, was teaching the class that a person doesn’t ‘have’ to go to mass every Sunday, (it’s not a mortal sin) and that confession wasn’t necessary. You can confess mortal sins without going to confession. So, this type of thing infuriates me much much more than someone on tv who gets paid to bash conservatives and Christians. Just my thoughts!🙂
 
Well Bill O’reilly named her a “Pinhead” on the O’reilly Factor. So at least someone has some brains in the media. I also think he’s done a great job at keeping these nutjobs in check!
😃 Something my husband would say. hee hee
 
I am just sick and tired of her nasty comments regarding Catholics. Now she says we’re all schizophrenics (sp?). I don’t understand why people like her are allowed to bash Catholics openly without consequence but there is NO way anybody could ever make those types of comments about say, the Jewish or Muslim religion. Your comments?
They also called Catholics Idol Worshipers and Polytheists on that very same program! I have no idea why that hasn’t received any attention. Anyway, if you google something like ‘the view sponsors, list’, you will get a list of sponsors’ email addresses, which you can use to voice your disapproval. (I posted it on here yesterday but for whatever reason they deleted it so I don’t want to post it again).

Contacting sponsors is the most effective way to make a difference. They are the ones that keep programs on the air. They pay for advertisements. If the sponsors threaten to pull out due to the program’s bigotry or because they fear large scale product boycotts from those offended by their support, then the show will either be forced to shape up or, if it does not, and enough fearful advertisers pull out, the show will become canceled.

We need to stand up for ourselves! Catholics have become far too lethargic, which is part of the reason this type of hatred towards us has been allowed to continue. Too many of us don’t defend our beliefs. 😦
 
I am just sick and tired of her nasty comments regarding Catholics. Now she says we’re all schizophrenics (sp?). I don’t understand why people like her are allowed to bash Catholics openly without consequence but there is NO way anybody could ever make those types of comments about say, the Jewish or Muslim religion. Your comments?
Thank you! I hadn’t heard that one. (Grrrrrr). I used to get a kick out of some of her humor - but I stopped watching “The View” years ago - because of her humor going sour. I can’t remember the comment exactly (I think it was a sexual comment) - but whatever she said was enough to turn me off to the whole show. Glad to hear I’m not alone. Why don’t Catholics raise a furor? Darn good question - and so sadly ignored by so many.
 
Why don’t Catholics raise a furor? Darn good question - and so sadly ignored by so many.
Sadly because too many Catholics are indifferent about their religion. I strongly believe Catholic schools and CCD classes should start teaching Catholic Apologetics so that the next generation isn’t as ignorant as previous ones. Many Catholics are so embarrassingly clueless about their religion that they are not receiving the wonderful spiritual fulfillment they can by being Catholic, nor are they equipped to defend their beliefs when confronted by atheists pushing their agendas, or by the growing Evangelical Christian movement that targets Catholics, claiming Catholicism is “the Great Harlot”, that we worship the Virgin Mary, that we are not really Christians, etc. I fear that if we do not start properly educating Catholics, there will be very few left in North America and Europe in future generations.
 
I have never watched “The View” all the way through a program. I have seen just a very limited few segments, but it’s not worth the time to watch such garbage if you ask me. Most of them if not all are very far left liberal secular progressive women that don’t even get their facts close to correct. As others have said, there are bigger fish to fry in our so called “Catholic” Universities that a sizable segment promote Non Catholic teachings. And priests that promote anything but Catholicism. (and their Bishops that support them!:mad:) People inside the Church trying to spew their propoganda. They are far more dangerous than Joy Behar. She, Barbara WaWa and many others in the secular media are just plain (as Bill O. says) pinheads. That being said, I do think yes, it is time that Catholic Christians start fighting back, both by their own example in their own communities and by letting sponsors know that we will not watch such garbage. The only thing that a program understands is a drop in sponsorship. It’s all about the money.
 
Everyone here is complaining - has anyone called ABC yet? Has anyone called the sponsors who advertise during that show and complained?

I have no problem whatsoever with her loosing her job. Don Imus lost his job for inappropriate comments, I don’t see her behavior as being any different.

I can’t stand The View - I think it went into the toilet when Star Jones joined the show. It was nice the first season, but they have just gone completely over board and become obnoxious and insulting women. Not exactly the roll models this country needs.

~Liza
Liza -
Calling networks works - only when great numbers of people do so. I’ve tried it - emails, calls and the like - not regarding The View but for other shows. Yields little to nothing. Boycotting sponsors - providing it’s large in numbers? A definite move in the right direction. It takes solid numbers - and alot of consistency - not giving up.
 
My thoughts on Joy? Lynch her.

Back in the Middle Ages we would have done that, or something alot worse. Too bad we don’t now.
 
Liza -
Calling networks works - only when great numbers of people do so. I’ve tried it - emails, calls and the like - not regarding The View but for other shows. Yields little to nothing. Boycotting sponsors - providing it’s large in numbers? A definite move in the right direction. It takes solid numbers - and alot of consistency - not giving up.
So then, let’s start a movement!

Anyone know of highly trafficked websites and/or blogs we should contact to promote a sponsor boycott?
 
My thoughts on Joy? Lynch her.

Back in the Middle Ages we would have done that, or something alot worse. Too bad we don’t now.
This seems like an uncalled for statement. No one on this forum has wished ill for Joy Behar. :mad:

Freedom of speech does not guarentee freedom of reaction.
 
My thoughts on Joy? Lynch her.

Back in the Middle Ages we would have done that, or something alot worse. Too bad we don’t now.
Well thank goodness for the rest of us who are civilized and DONT wanna live or think like its the middle ages :rolleyes:

As for her, shes a nasty woman
 
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