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Your thoughts on "Raising Hands" to the Lord for Prayer or Worship
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KathleenGee
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We wish to extend to people the opportunity to have Jesus the Eternal Word Made Flesh.
Yes, we are all on different levels…and baptism incorporates us into His Body. Jesus did say upon this rock I will build My church…singular…but the image of Church is suffering because we do not have all the devout Christians out there…
One faith, one baptism, one bread.
Yes, we are all on different levels…and baptism incorporates us into His Body. Jesus did say upon this rock I will build My church…singular…but the image of Church is suffering because we do not have all the devout Christians out there…
One faith, one baptism, one bread.
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rev_kevin
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Faith: allegiance to duty or a person {Loyalty}. fidelity to one’s promise. Belief and trust in and loyalty to God. Belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion. Firm belief in something for which there is no proof. complete confidence. Something that is believed especially with strong conviction. a system of religious beliefs.We wish to extend to people the opportunity to have Jesus the Eternal Word Made Flesh.
Yes, we are all on different levels…and baptism incorporates us into His Body. Jesus did say upon this rock I will build My church…singular…but the image of Church is suffering because we do not have all the devout Christians out there…
One faith, one baptism, one bread.
Seems to me we all fall into this catagory, especially the, belief and trust in and loyalty to God.
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KathleenGee
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Reverend,
We do, I just wish we were more united…I think we have way too many denominations and sects in our country…and I think our country would have been much stronger if there weren’t so many…
Thanks for your sharing…agree!
We do, I just wish we were more united…I think we have way too many denominations and sects in our country…and I think our country would have been much stronger if there weren’t so many…
Thanks for your sharing…agree!
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rev_kevin
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I agree that we need to be more united but, if we only had one religion in this country we would be no better off then the countries that have one religion. I thank God we have the freedom to choose what religious sect. we want to belong to. I don’t think that one religion would make our country much stronger. You can’t force someone to believe in something they don’t believe in. But may I ask you, what is the correct number of denominations? 1, 10, 100, 10,000? Wouldn’t that start to take away our freedoms in this country?Reverend,
We do, I just wish we were more united…I think we have way too many denominations and sects in our country…and I think our country would have been much stronger if there weren’t so many…
Thanks for your sharing…agree!
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rev_kevin
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And may I ask you, what is your point to the pict.?
Are you wanting to show it makes no difference how one worships?
Or that one is right and one is wrong?
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Gabriella_San_S
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=rev kevin;6160081]
(bolds mine) Dear friend, if religion were a matter of what I wanted and whatever church I went to practiced, then Our Lord would never have had a basis for establishing*** His*** CHURCH.If its not what*** you want*** to do then “don’t do it.” It also depends on your church, to some it may not be disruptive, to you it may be,*** its not part of your religion***.
Aren’t you being just a bit presumptuous about my “extremist tendencies”? I’m not trying to pick a fight with you, brother, honest.The AMEN part is hard to explain in writing but no matter how I put it you won’t agree or put some type of extreme slant on it.
Latin for “it is so”, or “so be it”, the expression or utterance after a prayer. Wasn’t that easy?Amen: is used to express solemn agreement or hearty approval.
The way I took your meaning of “JUST DO IT” was an* across the board*, “whatever you want or feel like doing-go for it”, I still have the impression you meant as much about worship, am I wrong?As far a the Nike thing goes, give me a break.
The Tiger Woods things. If someone askes me should I go to church and I say "Just do it’ would you put it in the same catagory as the Tiger Woods scandal?
That is why the Church instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Knowing our weakness, we can return-time and again. But we must make amends and avoid the near occasions of sin. Our will united with the Divine Will.("…therefore, be *perfect *** even as your heavenly Father is perfect…" (Jesus).Go and sin no more, how many actually don’t sin anymore after being told that?
And when we fail…go to confession!
The history of all nations, of all people, bears testimony that the Catholic Church is the oldest and the first. It is the one established by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.And who is the church?
Christ is the Head of the Church, and we are His BodyChrist is the church
Peter was “a Rock” on which Jesus, “the Rock” built His Church.Peter is to build on the teachings of Jesus and what Jesus taught the gates of hell will not prevail.
…and handed down through the sacred tradition and witness of the Church throughout salvation history.The key is the opportunity to bring people to the Kingdom of Heaven by presenting them with the message of salvation found in God’s Word.
I couldn’t agree with you more on that one!We cannot decide to open or close the Kingdom of Heaven for others, but God uses us to help others find the way inside. To all who believe in Christ and obey his words, the Kingdom doors are swung wide open.
I would only add that He gave us the Church to see it through! Praised be Jesus Christ!
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rev_kevin
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Peter was “a Rock” on which Jesus, “the Rock” built His Church. …and handed down through the sacred tradition and witness of the Church throughout salvation history. I couldn’t agree with you more on that one!(bolds mine) Dear friend, if religion were a matter of what I wanted and whatever church I went to practiced, then Our Lord would never have had a basis for establishing*** His*** CHURCH. Aren’t you being just a bit presumptuous about my “extremist tendencies”? I’m not trying to pick a fight with you, brother, honest.
Latin for “it is so”, or “so be it”, the expression or utterance after a prayer. Wasn’t that easy?
The way I took your meaning of “JUST DO IT” was an* across the board*, “whatever you want or feel like doing-go for it”, I still have the impression you meant as much about worship, am I wrong?
That is why the Church instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Knowing our weakness, we can return-time and again. But we must make amends and avoid the near occasions of sin. Our will united with the Divine Will.("…therefore, be *perfect *** even as your heavenly Father is perfect…" (Jesus).
And when we fail…go to confession!
The history of all nations, of all people, bears testimony that the Catholic Church is the oldest and the first. It is the one established by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Christ is the Head of the Church, and we are His Body
I would only add that He gave us the Church to see it through! Praised be Jesus Christ!
- His church is the body of Christ not a single named church. Why wouldn’t it be a matter what church. If your not comfortable in a church should you stay and not get anything out of the services or would you go to a church where you would get something out of the services?
- Seems both of us are right about the word Amen. Wasn’t that easy?
- Yes you can return time and time again but we will never be as perfect as Christ was we can only strive to be as close as we possibly can but we will never achieve it. I confess my sins to God who is the only one that can forgive sin. I don’t need a go between.
- I would have to disagree with your assertion of the church being the Catholic church. I already stated what it meant. So we won’t see eye to eye on this.
- Yes he gave us the church and he is the church.
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KathleenGee
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About how many other denominations…too many in that people dispute Christ present in us, irregardless of what church we go to…so however that number out there that invalidates Christ in us who don’t go to their church would be one,
The next would be those who recognize we do believe have common faith in the same Lord, but refuse any actual contact or relationship with us…how many are in here…
To how many would refuse to go to an ongoing ecumenical service, let’s say once a month, where we pray the Our Father, and share in common Scriptural readings that lead us to greater unity…
And what common projects can we do together that would create a greater and more solid voting block to restore our country’s recognized moral standards.
You hear about separation of church vs state…the government is not to establish any particular religion, but it has swung so far that religious cannot express themselves…or atheists and Muslims have more freedom of expression than Christians now…and 40 years ago, the general public morals were not lacking where they are today considering all the consequences of the Free Sex society my generation promoted…to bringing us to the type of government we have today that wants to be not only government, but parent and religion.
The next would be those who recognize we do believe have common faith in the same Lord, but refuse any actual contact or relationship with us…how many are in here…
To how many would refuse to go to an ongoing ecumenical service, let’s say once a month, where we pray the Our Father, and share in common Scriptural readings that lead us to greater unity…
And what common projects can we do together that would create a greater and more solid voting block to restore our country’s recognized moral standards.
You hear about separation of church vs state…the government is not to establish any particular religion, but it has swung so far that religious cannot express themselves…or atheists and Muslims have more freedom of expression than Christians now…and 40 years ago, the general public morals were not lacking where they are today considering all the consequences of the Free Sex society my generation promoted…to bringing us to the type of government we have today that wants to be not only government, but parent and religion.
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rev_kevin
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You said how many denominations do we need and I asked you should it be 1, 10, 100, 10,000. You are answering question with questions.About how many other denominations…too many in that people dispute Christ present in us, irregardless of what church we go to…so however that number out there that invalidates Christ in us who don’t go to their church would be one,
The next would be those who recognize we do believe have common faith in the same Lord, but refuse any actual contact or relationship with us…how many are in here…
To how many would refuse to go to an ongoing ecumenical service, let’s say once a month, where we pray the Our Father, and share in common Scriptural readings that lead us to greater unity…
And what common projects can we do together that would create a greater and more solid voting block to restore our country’s recognized moral standards.
You hear about separation of church vs state…the government is not to establish any particular religion, but it has swung so far that religious cannot express themselves…or atheists and Muslims have more freedom of expression than Christians now…and 40 years ago, the general public morals were not lacking where they are today considering all the consequences of the Free Sex society my generation promoted…to bringing us to the type of government we have today that wants to be not only government, but parent and religion.
Now as far as the church vs. state I have to agree with you that our government has swung so far that the atheists and Muslims have more freedom then Christians do. I agree our generation promoted this and it will be a hard fight to get it back to the way it should be. I don’t want a parent state or religious state but its up to us to stop it. Its this political correctness that is killing us and they don’t want to offend anyone but the Christians. They see us as easy targets that won’t fight back.
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KathleenGee
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Well, then, Reverend, how many denominations do you know in each category, how many in the denominations…that takes research…somebody a while back showed us all the different churches just here in the USA…
May be I have to take a survey…call each one of them up to get the stats.
May be I have to take a survey…call each one of them up to get the stats.
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rev_kevin
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Look you made the statement not me so please don’t get a attitude because of your own statement. I don’t know how many and did not make the statement that there are too many now did I. I’ll be waiting for the results of your survey.Well, then, Reverend, how many denominations do you know in each category, how many in the denominations…that takes research…somebody a while back showed us all the different churches just here in the USA…
May be I have to take a survey…call each one of them up to get the stats.
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jericho777
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When we raise our hands and our hearts it is a sign of surrender and submission to the Lord. Just as when we kneel or lay prostrate before Him. We release His Spirit to have His way in us.
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TEPO
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I think we can all adhere from the famous quote from St. Ambrose in regards to St. Augustine…
"When in Rome , do as the Romans do."
trivia-library.com/b/origins-of-sayings-when-in-rome-do-as-the-romans-do.htm
"The Story behind It: When St. Augustine arrived in Milan, he observed that the Church did not fast on Saturday as did the Church at Rome. He consulted St. Ambrose, bishop of Milan, who replied: “When I am at Rome, I fast on a Saturday; when I am at Milan, I do not. Follow the custom of the Church where you are.” The comment was changed to “When they are at Rome, they do there as they see done” by Robert Burton in his Anatomy of Melancholy. Eventually it became “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”
"When in Rome , do as the Romans do."
trivia-library.com/b/origins-of-sayings-when-in-rome-do-as-the-romans-do.htm
"The Story behind It: When St. Augustine arrived in Milan, he observed that the Church did not fast on Saturday as did the Church at Rome. He consulted St. Ambrose, bishop of Milan, who replied: “When I am at Rome, I fast on a Saturday; when I am at Milan, I do not. Follow the custom of the Church where you are.” The comment was changed to “When they are at Rome, they do there as they see done” by Robert Burton in his Anatomy of Melancholy. Eventually it became “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”
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tweetymom
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You are certainally right. When I raise my hands and worship God I really feel the Holy Spirit. God wants our praise.When we raise our hands and our hearts it is a sign of surrender and submission to the Lord. Just as when we kneel or lay prostrate before Him. We release His Spirit to have His way in us.
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tweetymom
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2nd picture is wonderful:thumbsup:
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KathleenGee
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Rev,
When I brought up the questions…they were not trick questions…I was sincere…just trying to further define who would be open to a more ecumenical service…the goal…
When I brought up the questions…they were not trick questions…I was sincere…just trying to further define who would be open to a more ecumenical service…the goal…
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rev_kevin
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My bad. The goal should be to work together. This can be done even if we are of different denominations. The goal should be to unit people with Christ, not to one single church as if to fight about who’s the best and who’s the worst. It should be up to them to choose what denomination they want to belong to. We can work together in different missions like the homeless, the hungry, visiting the sick, visiting the elderly, and many more things that can be done by comming together and forgetting our differences and putting our efforts on that mission. I work with the homeless families and there are different denominations working together as one and there is no fighting, argueing about who is the best. At that point we are one, working together as one. Doing God’s work as one like it should be.Rev,
When I brought up the questions…they were not trick questions…I was sincere…just trying to further define who would be open to a more ecumenical service…the goal…
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Ignatius
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It’s part of the normal practice during certain parts of the Mass in The Catholic Church. I don’t think it’s required.Hey Guys, just wanted to start a peaceful discussion on “Raising Hands” to the Lord for various reasons.
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