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So we’re pretty much taught that Heaven is the epitome of -being- and that we will be all-good/all-happy and be free of sadness and negativity etc etc. It is also taught that we’ll be free from wants and desires because we will have infinite joy through Him.

It’s also understandable NOT to truly know the real nature of Heaven.

But JUST FOR FUN, if you were to personally describe what Heaven would be to you (besides the Beatific Vision), what would it be?
 
So we’re pretty much taught that Heaven is the epitome of -being- and that we will be all-good/all-happy and be free of sadness and negativity etc etc. It is also taught that we’ll be free from wants and desires because we will have infinite joy through Him.

It’s also understandable NOT to truly know the real nature of Heaven.

But JUST FOR FUN, if you were to personally describe what Heaven would be to you (besides the Beatific Vision), what would it be?
Well, the Beatific Vision could be said to *be *heaven, or what makes heaven heavenly. In Jesus of Nazareth, I believe, Pope Benedict said that God is heaven. Anyway, it’s a continuous bathing in infinitely huge and inexhaustible. unconditional love resulting in absolute well-being, peace, joy, and happiness. Full acceptance, no condemnation, boundless goodness including and surpassing anything good we knew on earth.
 
So we’re pretty much taught that Heaven is the epitome of -being- and that we will be all-good/all-happy and be free of sadness and negativity etc etc. It is also taught that we’ll be free from wants and desires because we will have infinite joy through Him.

It’s also understandable NOT to truly know the real nature of Heaven.

But JUST FOR FUN, if you were to personally describe what Heaven would be to you (besides the Beatific Vision), what would it be?
this is exactly what im afraid of. i really dont want heaven to just be a place where i get to contemplate God for eternity, i mean dont get me wrong, God is beautiful and wonderful, but i still want to have my own individual desires and wants. i dont want God to just “turn off” my other desires and make me content with simply singing praises for eternity. thats why i hope that my idea of heaven is more closer to reality.
with that being said, heaven for me would be total and complete freedom, being master of my own destiny and my own surroundings. and ofcourse perefct health beauty and intelligence. not to mention being with the ones i love.
 
this is exactly what im afraid of. i really dont want heaven to just be a place where i get to contemplate God for eternity, i mean dont get me wrong, God is beautiful and wonderful, but i still want to have my own individual desires and wants. i dont want God to just “turn off” my other desires and make me content with simply singing praises for eternity. thats why i hope that my idea of heaven is more closer to reality.
with that being said, heaven for me would be total and complete freedom, being master of my own destiny and my own surroundings. and ofcourse perefct health beauty and intelligence. not to mention being with the ones i love.
I had a similar fear when I first heard of heaven in this sense. Now I like this idea, of never wanting for anything again. I don’t think it will be so much being “turned off”, because God made us who we are with our personal little quirks, and I think he’d hate to just wipe that all away (that’s just my opinion though). I think it’s more like complete fulfillment, similar to what I had after converting: no more hungering for more, no more cringing from my sinful self, no more suffering from the absence of God. However I think it’ll be much better. Like doing the thing you love the very most forever, with the love you have for it never fading away, you know? Whatever it is, I know that God knows us each, so it’ll be what’s very best for us. I doubt it’s all just praising God for praising’s sake, because it seems a bit narcissistic on God’s part. I think it’s praising as a natural response to His goodness. I don’t know; I suppose I’ll know if I make it to heaven.
 
this is exactly what im afraid of. i really dont want heaven to just be a place where i get to contemplate God for eternity, i mean dont get me wrong, God is beautiful and wonderful, but i still want to have my own individual desires and wants. i dont want God to just “turn off” my other desires and make me content with simply singing praises for eternity. thats why i hope that my idea of heaven is more closer to reality.
with that being said, heaven for me would be total and complete freedom, being master of my own destiny and my own surroundings. and ofcourse perefct health beauty and intelligence. not to mention being with the ones i love.
I wouldn’t think of ‘contimplating God’ as simply singing praises for eternity. Remember God created everything. This means everything known as well as everything unknown to you. Think of it more in terms of our being infants (as we know infants to be). We, as parents, older siblings, aunts or uncles get excited to expose someone much younger to something new an different to them.

Pick your favorite thing (for me it is the ocean). Imagine an eternity of redicovering the ocean for the first time.

Might sound corny but this is how I think of it.

Okay now that I am being foolish here is a foolish heavan fantasy of mine. I have always been fasinated by ocean storms. I have a relatively small 23’ seaworthy boat. During storms I like to think about venturing out in my boat into the storm, heading further and further out as the weather gets rougher and rougher. In other words, testing my and my boats true capabilities. Eventually I get overcome of course. But in heaven, if God grants me this fantasy, I will be plucked out by His Fatherly hand at that last moment.

I will have experienced my fantasy.

sorry corny, oh well 😦
 
I wouldn’t think of ‘contimplating God’ as simply singing praises for eternity. Remember God created everything. This means everything known as well as everything unknown to you. Think of it more in terms of our being infants (as we know infants to be). We, as parents, older siblings, aunts or uncles get excited to expose someone much younger to something new an different to them.

Pick your favorite thing (for me it is the ocean). Imagine an eternity of redicovering the ocean for the first time.

Might sound corny but this is how I think of it.

Okay now that I am being foolish here is a foolish heavan fantasy of mine. I have always been fasinated by ocean storms. I have a relatively small 23’ seaworthy boat. During storms I like to think about venturing out in my boat into the storm, heading further and further out as the weather gets rougher and rougher. In other words, testing my and my boats true capabilities. Eventually I get overcome of course. But in heaven, if God grants me this fantasy, I will be plucked out by His Fatherly hand at that last moment.

I will have experienced my fantasy.

sorry corny, oh well 😦
Not corny! Cool!

It would be incredible to meet people from the past. Favorite saints.

And offer prayers whenever asked to!
 
Scripture says "In my Father’s house there are many mansions.’ I like to think that God is preparing a mansion just for me: perhaps a cozy bungalow filled with antiques. It’s just a thought; of course no eye has seen, no ear has heard what God has ready for those who love Him. Plus, even though we will be in Spirit until the new heaven and new earth, we WILL one day have new bodies and there WILL be a new heaven and earth. I’d like to think it will be everything that the Garden of Eden was, including being filled with animals and plants and flowers of all kinds. And we’ll be able to PET the lions and tigers! Most of all, we’ll never be hungry (physically or spiritually), never tired, never sad–we will feel infinite love and be ABLE to love infinitely (never growing cross or irritable!) No, I don’t think we’ll be sitting in front of the throne of God all day singing, “Holy, Holy, Holy” like the seraphim. But even if we did, it would be INFINITELY better than being separated from all light and love for all eternity, as well as suffering beyond our worst nightmare. The devil would like for us to think that we will be bored all day in Heaven (and even perhaps that Hell is an endless rock n’ roll party) but that is a lie! Pray to love God (or Jesus) above all things and pretty soon that’s what you will desire: to be with Him forever and ever!
 
When I went to my first Holy Communion on Easter I was filled with an overwhelming sense of forgiveness and acceptance. At that moment everyone in the room was ‘family’ and I knew that God loved me so immensely that my heart was overwhelmed with joy.

Heaven for me is all my family, my friends and the body of Christ being filled with that sensation forever.
 
I wouldn’t think of ‘contimplating God’ as simply singing praises for eternity. Remember God created everything. This means everything known as well as everything unknown to you. Think of it more in terms of our being infants (as we know infants to be). We, as parents, older siblings, aunts or uncles get excited to expose someone much younger to something new an different to them.

Pick your favorite thing (for me it is the ocean). Imagine an eternity of redicovering the ocean for the first time.

Might sound corny but this is how I think of it.

Okay now that I am being foolish here is a foolish heavan fantasy of mine. I have always been fasinated by ocean storms. I have a relatively small 23’ seaworthy boat. During storms I like to think about venturing out in my boat into the storm, heading further and further out as the weather gets rougher and rougher. In other words, testing my and my boats true capabilities. Eventually I get overcome of course. But in heaven, if God grants me this fantasy, I will be plucked out by His Fatherly hand at that last moment.

I will have experienced my fantasy.

sorry corny, oh well 😦
interesting lol,
no its not corny 🙂
i see what you mean. indeed, it will be a joy just to explore the mystery of God himself.
but you know what, i think even this earth could be a heaven. think about it, look at this world, minus the disease, poverty, death, violence, wars, greed, corruption. and what do you have left? paradise. the funny thing is i dont even have real desire to experience what “no eye hath seen”. heck, this earth would be heaven enough minus all its problems. all i would really need to know about God is that he loves me.
 
Scripture says "In my Father’s house there are many mansions.’ I like to think that God is preparing a mansion just for me: perhaps a cozy bungalow filled with antiques. It’s just a thought; of course no eye has seen, no ear has heard what God has ready for those who love Him. Plus, even though we will be in Spirit until the new heaven and new earth, we WILL one day have new bodies and there WILL be a new heaven and earth. I’d like to think it will be everything that the Garden of Eden was, including being filled with animals and plants and flowers of all kinds. And we’ll be able to PET the lions and tigers! Most of all, we’ll never be hungry (physically or spiritually), never tired, never sad–we will feel infinite love and be ABLE to love infinitely (never growing cross or irritable!) No, I don’t think we’ll be sitting in front of the throne of God all day singing, “Holy, Holy, Holy” like the seraphim. But even if we did, it would be INFINITELY better than being separated from all light and love for all eternity, as well as suffering beyond our worst nightmare. The devil would like for us to think that we will be bored all day in Heaven (and even perhaps that Hell is an endless rock n’ roll party) but that is a lie! Pray to love God (or Jesus) above all things and pretty soon that’s what you will desire: to be with Him forever and ever!
amen to that. thats pretty much my idea of heaven too. and yes, there will be animals plants, water, etc. we will have material bodies therefore its only logical that heaven will be material as well as spiritual. and dont forget, the ressurection body will have superhuman capabilities, such as flight.
 
I once had a concern about heaven that I voiced. I said I knew it would be wonderful beyond all imagining but that there were things I liked about earth and being human and I loved some things about earth and being human. I immediately had an answer with a big smile from someone who studied at a religious institution…it will be perfectly human. Fr. Groeschel said that anything on earth that is beautiful and gives you joy will be with you in heaven. So I guess it won’t be like being so lofty that the little things dear to us are obliterated, although it will be lofty at the same time. I am looking forward to it! My pets will be there too, with the ability to speak to me. I’ll be able to time travel and visit my grandparents holiday tables with all my family. I’ll get to see the great saints and speak with them. This is all in addition to the beatific vision, the company of angels. I can eat the most delicious things and not gain weight. I’ll feel love every moment. These things would be my idea of heaven. The best thing is that heaven will be this and so much more wondrous beyond my imaginings. 😃
 
The Lord has seen fit to show me my heaven, which is here and now. By definition, it’s ALWAYS here and now.

This is the most amazing thing I’ve ever experienced. I’m still living below poverty level in a messed up house on disability, but now (compared even to a few weeks ago) it’s glorious and getting better. I have these insanely intense sensations (I can’t even call them “feelings” because they are so subtle it’s hard to describe) of peace, joy, serenity, hope, and all the good stuff.

Since I lost my lucrative career 11 years ago, I have done due diligence to learn to fight off my supposedly “total and permanent” condition of severe psychosis. For the last few months, my psychiatrist doesn’t even ask how I’m doing. We shoot the breeze over comedy, religion, family life, politics, and music, and even exchange music and comedy CD’s, and from our discussion it is blatantly obvious that I’m not psychotic anymore. Note that I’ve been going to him for 11 years now, at times daily, weekly, or monthly, and never before did he not ask how I was doing and talk about how I was doing.

The saying is true that happiness is not getting what you want, but liking what you get.

I am at peace with everything at this moment. Nothing really scares me except for the most basic of mortal fears, such as accidentally messing something up or ny loved ones and I becoming physically injured or something. Everyday it gets more serene than the last, and it’s weird because it is even retroactive. Not only am I not anxious about the past, every day the Lord reveals to me why things happened. Why did this and that terrible thing happen? It was all part of the plan and even those things that don’t make sense, also I’m at peace with because by now I know that God will reveal it to me when it’s time, seemingly on a need-to-know basis.

When I talk to people, I don’t plan what I’m going to say, usually even a few seconds in advance. My mouth moves, sounds come out, and THEN I realize what I am saying. That’s because the words are coming from my heart and my mind has finally been cleared by the Holy Spirit (the psychiatrist calls it “calm and clear mind” while I call it “paradise” or “inner room”) to the point where it puts words to my heart’s intentions to communicate in ways that are more adaptable to my audience than I could have made if I have planned it in advance.

My body language has become so non-threatening that people stand closer to me, allowing me into what a few months ago would have been “their space.” They tell me things they can’t even tell their closest friends. My kids’ friends are confiding in me and I’m even counseling a few of them and even some of their friends, anonymously, over the Internet. Monday a woman I’d never seen and maybe about my age (53), named Nichole, came up to me while I was pumping gas and talked for a minute and asked if she could buy me breakfast. I wasn’t hungry, but I let her buy me a drink and she did, with FOOD STAMPS. Then she gave me a quick hug and we parted ways. Now that was totally bizarre, but after these last few weeks, I took it in stride.

I still have some shreds of “bad” ego left, and it manifests in my writing and is obvious once I reread it. But every day that gets better, too, and I have to retract fewer things I said than the day before.

Gosh.

Wow.

Like I said, my heaven is here and now, and I believe others can be too if you believe and stand firmly on the word. Try ignoring the “standard” exegesis of scripture and let it sink in, such as by praying with Lectio Divina. If you truly believe, it shall be yours.

Mark 11:23-25
Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. When you stand to pray, forgive anyone against whom you have a grievance, so that your heavenly Father may in turn forgive you your transgressions.”

Alan
 
interesting lol,
no its not corny 🙂
i see what you mean. indeed, it will be a joy just to explore the mystery of God himself.
but you know what, i think even this earth could be a heaven. think about it, look at this world, minus the disease, poverty, death, violence, wars, greed, corruption. and what do you have left? paradise. the funny thing is i dont even have real desire to experience what “no eye hath seen”. heck, this earth would be heaven enough minus all its problems. all i would really need to know about God is that he loves me.
The wonderful, enthralling, beautiful paradise, which is a created thing and has a beginning and an ending, is merely a thought in God’s mind. The Creator of beauty is infinitely more beautiful than beauty itself.
 
All of my experience has been in this world and I know no other experience. Some of the saints had extrodinary visions and mystical experiences which enveloped them completely. And they said that they could not adequately describe those.

So in a nutshell, to be honest, in my limited experience, it would be an 18 magnificent hole golf course and me in my 20’s among a great number of my friends.

Not very good, but there it is.

When I get there, it better not be an 18 hole golf course because I want a surprise.
 
18 hole golf course? That’s weird, that’s my vision of hell:p

Which may be more profound than it seems.

Heaven may be different for all of us:)

Or maybe we are intrinsically ordered for heaven, in which case it would be the same…🤷
 
I agree with fhansen.

I also like Dante’s notion that Heaven and Hell don’t necessarily have to be so much like either paradise or punishment, but rather that the way we live our lives, the ways we allow ourselves to feel, love, and act directly echo in the afterlife. Those who are good people but live without knowing the love and grace of God live similarly in the eternal afterlife, feeling otherwise content but just rather empty in comparison. This concept was again explored, for those really curious, in “Heaven and Hell” by Emanuel Swedenborg, renowned scientist and engineer who claims, like Dante’s character, to have actually visited the two.

However, I think the most honest view one can have is to simply just admit that we don’t know hardly a thing. It is kept vague. But one of the great things about it is that you don’t need to know before you convert or feel the love of God. The rewards normally come sooner than that.
 
So we’re pretty much taught that Heaven is the epitome of -being- and that we will be all-good/all-happy and be free of sadness and negativity etc etc. It is also taught that we’ll be free from wants and desires because we will have infinite joy through Him.

It’s also understandable NOT to truly know the real nature of Heaven.

But JUST FOR FUN, if you were to personally describe what Heaven would be to you (besides the Beatific Vision), what would it be?
My heaven would be obviously happiness, reunification with loved ones, etc., but also uncovering all of the mysteries that happened on earth and learning with the most gifted people in history.
 
The Lord has seen fit to show me my heaven, which is here and now. By definition, it’s ALWAYS here and now.

Alan
Thanks for posting this Alan, this is comforting to hear.

I once had a moment (perhaps a minute or so while I was in the process of awaking) of a tremendous peace I did not know could exist (by nature I am a bit hgh strung and worry often). It was fleeting, but felt “not from this world”. I often wonder if it was a piece of “heaven candy” tossed my way).
 
Thanks for posting this Alan, this is comforting to hear.

I once had a moment (perhaps a minute or so while I was in the process of awaking) of a tremendous peace I did not know could exist (by nature I am a bit hgh strung and worry often). It was fleeting, but felt “not from this world”. I often wonder if it was a piece of “heaven candy” tossed my way).
From the way you describe it, it was.

I suggest you ponder the difference between a dream state and when you are awake. When most people dream, it is real while within the dream. It is in shifting consciousness that we are afforded enough different points of view to “triangulate” or if you will see in stereo (which adds a dimension compared to just one point of view) which helps us deal with and reconcile all kinds of things. I have also experienced different awareness than usual just while waking up – I try to savor it and “inspect” it so I know what it’s like, then I can pray for it to be brought into the rest of my life.

Ps 34:9
Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the stalwart one who takes refuge in him.

Dear Father in Heaven, please shower abundant blessings upon your child Mijoy2 so that this taste of heaven will grow and expand, all according to Your will. Through Jesus I dare ask these things. Amen.

Alan
 
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