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Eilish_Maura
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Skip the pastor - speak to the diocese and get some information for yourself on the youth protection guidelines and if that program was even acceptable for a parish to use.
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terri8217
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thank you very much. I will.
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puzzleannie
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if she went to youth explosion offered through the Catholic Charismatic Renewal as an event sponsored by a CAtholic diocese, such as the one in San Antonio this past weekend, she participated in an orthodox spirituality at an event designed for youth who have previously been prepared for the experience in their own parish or youth group. It is unfair to invite youth to ask for the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit before they have learned what they are, what to expect, why they are given, why they are not always given, and how they are to be used. For a youth who has been properly prepared, I can think of no better retreat to prepare for Confirmation, or to use the gifts recently received at Confirmation.
for any youth retreat we hold at this parish we strongly suggest cell phones stay off, along with i-lods and other electronics, and the youth focus on the retreat, prayer, reflection and experience. As a parent I have a hard time understanding why a teen who is trusted to the YM team at the parish has to check in by phone if the parents know where he is, what he is doing, who he is with, and when the event is over. I would have to have the parent tell me that the teen is expected to call home at a certain time.
if you don’t trust your parish YM, either volunteer and work to make it better, or put your teen in a program you do trust.
for the record, any parent can contact me or any of the catechists, aides or coordinators at any time during any program and be linked to the student without explanation. The constant ringing and conversations on cell phones at our recent diocesan retreat was almost entirely calls to and from parents, and was exceedingly distracting, especially during Mass and prayer times.
for any youth retreat we hold at this parish we strongly suggest cell phones stay off, along with i-lods and other electronics, and the youth focus on the retreat, prayer, reflection and experience. As a parent I have a hard time understanding why a teen who is trusted to the YM team at the parish has to check in by phone if the parents know where he is, what he is doing, who he is with, and when the event is over. I would have to have the parent tell me that the teen is expected to call home at a certain time.
if you don’t trust your parish YM, either volunteer and work to make it better, or put your teen in a program you do trust.
for the record, any parent can contact me or any of the catechists, aides or coordinators at any time during any program and be linked to the student without explanation. The constant ringing and conversations on cell phones at our recent diocesan retreat was almost entirely calls to and from parents, and was exceedingly distracting, especially during Mass and prayer times.
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Corki
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At least in my diocese, which is also in Texas, PGC guidelines include the points that parents are ALWAYS allowed access to their children and that any time a child feels uncomfortable at any activity he/she can contact their parent or another responsible person and ask to be removed.I don’t believe that we have enough details.
What, exactly, doesn’t meet the norms of Protecting God’s Children?
Another point is that there is always supposed to be visibility into the room where youth are, windows on doors, lights on etc. although “lights dimmed” might be ok if there was still visibility.
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Corki
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Sooooo many questions. May I quote you and start a new thread so as not to derail this one?if she went to youth explosion offered through the Catholic Charismatic Renewal as an event sponsored by a CAtholic diocese, such as the one in San Antonio this past weekend, she participated in an orthodox spirituality at an event designed for youth who have previously been prepared for the experience in their own parish or youth group. It is unfair to invite youth to ask for the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit before they have learned what they are, what to expect, why they are given, why they are not always given, and how they are to be used. For a youth who has been properly prepared, I can think of no better retreat to prepare for Confirmation, or to use the gifts recently received at Confirmation.
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puzzleannie
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youth explosion is the name for the teen retreat for ACTS to which those teens who have been participating for some time in ACTS retreats and activities are invited for a deepening experience and awareness of the action of the HOly Spirit. It would be very rare for a teen to be invited who has not been involved long enough to understand what will be going on. if there is another group out there using the term “youth explosion” I am not familiar with it. if I can find the link to the SA group I will post it, but searching for ACTS San Antonio should provide a link for diocesan YM behind the event there.
don’t want to post her phone # altho it was in the literature but contact for the YM in charge is ACTS Youth Explosion in San Antonio on March 15 (Delfie G. e-mail youth_staying_connected@yahoo.com.)
don’t want to post her phone # altho it was in the literature but contact for the YM in charge is ACTS Youth Explosion in San Antonio on March 15 (Delfie G. e-mail youth_staying_connected@yahoo.com.)
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OutinChgoburbs
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You beat me to it, Corki, and my diocese is in Illinois.At least in my diocese, which is also in Texas, PGC guidelines include the points that parents are ALWAYS allowed access to their children and that any time a child feels uncomfortable at any activity he/she can contact their parent or another responsible person and ask to be removed.
Another point is that there is always supposed to be visibility into the room where youth are, windows on doors, lights on etc. although “lights dimmed” might be ok if there was still visibility.
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puzzleannie
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parental access to their children while they are involved in Church youth activities does not mean IMO that we have to allow incessant uninterrupted phone contact. it means if the parent phones me or the coordinator we will bring the child to the phone or relay a message, or that the parent is welcome in the facility at any time, while obeying, themselves, all child safety regulations as well.
OP still has given no info about this retreat except the rather garbled version of what the child related. still waiting to hear the real deal.
OP still has given no info about this retreat except the rather garbled version of what the child related. still waiting to hear the real deal.
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OutinChgoburbs
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Which is why I said what I said in the first place, that kids will give you three or four versions before all the facts come to the top. If it is the retreat I’m thinking of, the one connected with ACTS, then it is usually a very orderly retreat. I’ve never it called “youth explosion” before, so that threw me. So it makes me wonder what retreat the OP’s daughter attended.OP still has given no info about this retreat except the rather garbled version of what the child related. still waiting to hear the real deal.
But in my diocese, if the kids are not allowed to at least call their parents at designated times (on their own dime) and if kids are not allowed to call home to get a parent or parentally-appointed adult to come get them, then there’s a problem. Again, I don’t see that happening in any of the Texas dioceses, particularly if it is San Antonio. So, either there was a big problem, or we aren’t getting all the facts.
In any event, the OP needs to talk with the youth person (minister/ director/ chief cook and bottle washer) or the pastor, and find out, for her own peace of mind.
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