Youtube music videos

[mymamamary]

Dear Brothers and Sisters in CHRIST!!

May the SACRED HEART BLESS YOU!!

I was just wondering out of curiosity if watching videos on Yotube is a sin. I like to go on and listen to Gregorian Chant, and movie soundtracks. I especially love the Lord of the Rings symphony as it was so well done IMO. I will post a couple of the links that I usually listen to and I ask your assistance in this tricky question. I have read a few threads on it before, but I didn’t percieve a definitive yes or no.

Please help

youtube.com/watch?v=-xs67InkZ3A

youtube.com/watch?v=_pGaz_qN0cw

Thank You!

 

[bzkoss236]

In regards to the two links you provided, if you notice in the description of the video where it says “Buy …”. This is put in place so that people can buy the music in the video if it is copyrighted and exclusive privileges were not given to the one who posted the video.

Youtube does its best to keep its content legal. Hence why some videos have their sound removed, because of a copyright violation. But those two videos you posted are perfectly legal to listen to, as far as I am concerned.

 

[jc4751]

I haven’t seen a good, definitive answer on this topic, myself. Youtube responds pretty readily to takedown notices, so if there is copyrighted work present on the site, there is at least a decent chance that the artist doesn’t object.

The reality of the music business is that many artists don’t receive the majority of their income from music sales, but from live performances. For the rest, Neil Young stated that music piracy is like radio of the modern day, because artists can receive exposure that they would otherwise not get in the very limited radio market.

Another way of looking at this is – do you ever intend to listen to a radio station and not buy from the advertisers on that station?

Personally, I tend to look at Youtube, Pandora, etc, as being a way to discover new music. If I hear something I like, I’ll generally buy it just to support the artist. For the kind of music I listen to, the artists are probably not likely to ever receive airplay and would otherwise not have any way to reach a potential audience.

 

[Joe_5859]

You haven’t seen a definitive yes or no because there’s really not a definitive answer. It depends on the video.

As bzkoss236 noted, YouTube does it’s best to keep everything legal. Of course, YouTube is set up to place the responsibility on the copyright holder to file a complaint. So stuff does get posted on there that shouldn’t. Generally, though, I would imagine that any artist or record label is only too keenly aware of how their stuff gets posted on YouTube and they keep tabs and report what they don’t want on there.

If a song has been on there for less than a week, you might wonder if it hasn’t attracted the attention of the copyright holders just yet. However, those videos you posted a link to have been up for 2 years and 5 years. They also have advertisements attached to them. That suggests to me that everything is just fine.

 

[edwest2]

The assumptions made here are unfounded. Once youtube receives a complaint that a video put up by T_bYXX456 is in violation of copyright, they are required, by law, to take it down. As soon as it comes down, WeO987554 puts it back up. The same with file sharing sites.

wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/viacom-youtube-appeals/

Unless the music video is identified as downloaded by EMI Music or MGM Digital as opposed to crsx6t55fg, you should avoid watching it.

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

I haven’t seen a good, definitive answer on this topic, myself. Youtube responds pretty readily to takedown notices, so if there is copyrighted work present on the site, there is at least a decent chance that the artist doesn’t object.

The reality of the music business is that many artists don’t receive the majority of their income from music sales, but from live performances. For the rest, Neil Young stated that music piracy is like radio of the modern day, because artists can receive exposure that they would otherwise not get in the very limited radio market.

Another way of looking at this is – do you ever intend to listen to a radio station and not buy from the advertisers on that station?

Personally, I tend to look at Youtube, Pandora, etc, as being a way to discover new music. If I hear something I like, I’ll generally buy it just to support the artist. For the kind of music I listen to, the artists are probably not likely to ever receive airplay and would otherwise not have any way to reach a potential audience.

Have you read a music contract? What are your assertions based on?

Money from performing live?

money.futureofmusic.org/mythbusting/3/

I thought performing live was the answer. Put up some posters, play, sell your CDs, put up a web site. No middle man.

Peace,
Ed

 

[SilverCamellia]

I especially love the Lord of the Rings symphony as it was so well done IMO

So do I !!!

I own the three Lord of the Rings soundtrack CDs (one for each movie). It will save you bandwidth if you listen to CDs (or MP3s I guess) rather than streaming online.
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An example of a combined version is this: amazon.com/The-Lord-Rings-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B0000TAZBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359598826&sr=8-1&keywords=lord+of+the+rings+trilogy+soundtrack

I paid much less than that to get the three CDs individually, but then, I bought them around the time the films were released. Beautiful music though! And I can imagine what is happening in the film as I listen! The biggest disappointment though, was that they did not include Theoden’s army as it prepared for battle, when he rides up and down the line, and his horse rears at the end. The music then is so dramatic. I also love the music in the third CD, that plays when Frodo reaches Mount Doom. I could go on, lol

 

[rom422]

Dear Brothers and Sisters in CHRIST!!

May the SACRED HEART BLESS YOU!!

I was just wondering out of curiosity if watching videos on Yotube is a sin. I like to go on and listen to Gregorian Chant, and movie soundtracks. I especially love the Lord of the Rings symphony as it was so well done IMO. I will post a couple of the links that I usually listen to and I ask your assistance in this tricky question. I have read a few threads on it before, but I didn’t percieve a definitive yes or no.

Did you know beforehand that the video you are watching or the music you are listening to was posted without permission of the copyright owner? If you don’t, then you may assume that it was posted legally. So enjoy the video or the music without scruples. If there was a copyright violation, then it would be the responsibility of the copyright owners to notify Youtube to take the posts down. But you yourself, legally and morally, have done nothing wrong. You can’t possibly check the legal status of each video or music uploaded in Youtube.

Sometimes, people upload old soundtracks whose copyright have already expired. You certainly can enjoy these without scruples.

Sometimes, copyright owners give permission to others to upload a video or a video clip, as well as some soundtracks. They do this as a form of advertising, hoping that eventually you will buy their album or CD. So there would be nothing wrong on your part to enjoy them, too.

Some people upload their own videos and music for others to enjoy. You may also view and listen to these without scruples.

I think that there is a more important question to ask: Is it OK to download those videos or soundtrack to your C drive so you can continue to view them or listen to them off of your computer without going to Youtube? You might want to do this, for example, if you have a slow internet. Playing them directly from your hard drive would certainly be a lot better than viewing or listening to a streaming video online. In my opinion, as long as you are doing this for your viewing or listening pleasure, and are not personally marketing these products for a gain, your act is perfectly legal and moral. The act falls under the concept of “fair use.” It is no different than a woman copying a movie from TV so her husband could watch the movie at another time. She is making a fair use of her video recorder and is not doing anything wrong.

Anyway, for those of you who are having scruples about this issue, I also think that if it is a sin to view videos or listen to soundtrack in Youtube, then it is at least not a mortal sin because of the absence of grave matter.