Zoom series trains priests to minister to transgender people

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Actually, the Frankfurt school would be part of the a group of philosophers whom you would study if you were to focus upon cultural Marxism. You’ll find classes in which to read works from the Frankfurt school in many philosophy and political science departments at university.
You are aware that Marx was Jewish, yes? So were many of his intellectual descendents who developed the narratives associated with cultural marxism.
https://www.bh.org.il/blog-items/frankfurt-school-jewish-intellectuals-made-60s/
 
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A lot of people are under the impression that there is some screening tool out there that the gender clinics use to distinguish the kids for whom this is just a phase from the kids who felt this way from the beginning.
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Interesting how similar it is to abortion. There’s supposed to be psychological analysis etc. but instead women just get ushered through. The liberal mentality is I want, I get. It’s my body.
 
It sounds like Sister Derouen’s effort is admirable; if it keeps the fire of faith alight in even one person then it’ll be a worthwhile effort.

While I fail to see how it can be sinful for a trans person to live as the gender which all their instincts direct them towards, but even if I thought it was I’d still want trans people to worship and praise God because this is a church of sinners and it always has been.
 
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Part of the issue is that no one is preventing people from crossing gender lines to seek employment or engage in hobbies, etc.

But when you go and destroy functioning and healthy body parts, that is a grave matter.

And when you go and force and enshrine speech and pronouns and false information into birth certificates.
And shut down research and conversation.
And enshrine this into law, again, this is a very serious matter.

And when you entice depressed teenagers into taking hormones…

Not to mention this is a very new condition and we don’t even know what it is!
 
I think you are rendering a great service to us all by sharing such a personal story, even anonymously. Thank you.
 
Yes! It was ordered to remove the word Catholic by its bishop and defied the order. It’s a fraud.
 
We all agree to the TOS and forum rules when we sign up. What posts appear and what are silenced is the pervuew of the CAF moderators.

As for declaring people “wrong”, science has not yet discovered the genesis of gender. What response will you have should medical science prove that gender is something that is centered in the mind instead of in the reproductive organs?

There was a time when Catholics believed that every suicide was a grave mortal sin. Those who committed suicide could not be given a Funeral Mass not buried in a Catholic cemetery.

Now, we understand far more and the Catechism tells us while suicide that is done with intent to influence others gives scandal:

"Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

[2283](javascript:openWindow(‘cr/2283.htm’)😉 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."
 
Yeah, I’ve had comments removed too. I didn’t always think such removals were appropriate, but what can I do? That’s just the nature of the beast on a forum such as this one. C’est la vie.

I do want to emphasize, again, that when we’re talking about medical treatment of trans people (hormones, surgeries, etc), we’re talking about medically necessary treatments that are proven effective. When I have to choose between listening to some random anonymous person on the internet who has a grudge against me just for my existence, and my doctor, I will always choose my doctor. Internet “randos” do not know better than experts who dedicate their entire lives to studying exactly this sort of thing. Transitioning has made a night-and-day difference in my life, precisely because it was medically necessary. I’m not asking for anyone’s approval, but neither will I lie about who I am.

So when I see people saying that the medically necessary treatments which have quite literally saved my life should be illegal, I have to assume that person is voting for politicians and laws to that effect. That is a direct threat to me. The fact that I exist, or the fact of my transition, is no threat to anyone; all I’m asking for is to be allowed to live my life in peace. But calling for medically necessary treatments to be made illegal is tantamount to calling for my death. If I were in a mood to flag people’s comments and try to have them removed, I’d have started with the one that said the medical treatment that saved my life should be illegal.
 
There is a real problem that many different conditions are going by the name of transgender,

There is no real oversight over diagnosis or treatment

And a huge and unexplained uptick of cases on both the dysphoria-from-birth variant and the kids who decide they want to transition after happily living in their own bodies for years

And a trans lobby which is extremely powerful and has the capacity to suppress skeptics
 
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As for declaring people “wrong”, science has not yet discovered the genesis of gender. What response will you have should medical science prove that gender is something that is centered in the mind instead of in the reproductive organs?
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That’d be an absurdism, because gender refers to the complementary half of genitalia by which an individual, provided their body is optimally healthy and free of compromising conditions, may generate the next generation.

Minds don’t generate offspring. Genitalia does.
 
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And before anyone mentions hermaphrodites, please read up on the science behind such anomalies. It’s not like they’re born completely both male and female.
 
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Part of the issue is that no one is preventing people from crossing gender lines to seek employment or engage in hobbies, etc.
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As far as employment most jobs can be filled by people of both genders; gone are the days when doctors or soldiers had to be men. As for hobbies, most hobbies are organized by private clubs which retain the legal right to discriminate however they wish to.
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But when you go and destroy functioning and healthy body parts, that is a grave matter.
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If one has to choose between a functional brain and a functional hand then most would say that the right choice is the brain. I think the same principal could apply here.
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And when you go and force and enshrine speech and pronouns and false information into birth certificates.
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Why is it your business what someone else’s birth certificate says? It’s not like anyone wants to change yours.

As for pronouns, language changes and evolves as society changes. “Mean” used to mean humble or poor before it meant an unkind attitude, while “Gay” used to mean cheerful or happy before it meant homosexual. Thus pronouns could easily be changed to refer to gender identity rather than biological sex.
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And shut down research and conversation.
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That’s just how science works; ideas get explored and when one is shown to be a dead end the scientific community abandons it. Conversion Therapy doesn’t work; even former conversion therapists have come out and admitted that it doesn’t work.
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And enshrine this into law, again, this is a very serious matter.
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If a country has freedom of religion, separation of church and state, and equal rights for all as three of it’s founding ideas then the logical conclusion is to grant equal rights to a group of people when there’s no secular reason not to.
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And when you entice depressed teenagers into taking hormones…
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Those hormones have been shown to fix said depression. There’s literally a post from a trans-person on this very thread who claims that suicidal thoughts disappeared after transitioning.
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Not to mention this is a very new condition and we don’t even know what it is !
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There are recorded cases of this condition going back thousands of years. In Prague archeologists found a skeleton that had a male sex but was buried in female clothing and with feminine grave goods - that skeleton was at least 4500 years old.
 
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And a trans lobby which is extremely powerful and has the capacity to suppress skeptics
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I am unaware of any trans lobby with any significant power. Which is a shame; we need people arguing for our rights in government. I am, however, aware of several lobbies which want to use the force of government to discriminate against us and strip us of our rights.
 
People are starting to catch on that there’s something very strange about this sudden uptick of cases and the race to medicate and they want to bring some of this out into the open.

To have honest exploration and discussion.

We’ve had some documented cases of discussion being shut down.

For example, a little over a year ago, several threads opened on Reddit to discuss why there are so many new cases, for de-transitioners to tell their stories, for parents of kids who were happy in their bodies until something upset them, how the gender clinics promise hormones before the kid is even seen by a practitioner.

Last summer they were all deleted and called “hate speech “.

Honest exploration is hate speech. Questions are hate speech.

The brouhaha that fell on JK Rowling’s head because she told her own story of how she might have been tempted to take hormones if that had been an option.

Testimonies are hate speech now.

Or how the book Irreversable Damage was not allowed to be advertised on Amazon.

Data is hate speech.
 
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