Zoroastrianism

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meltzerboy said:
Not according to your faith. However, Catholicism is based on the belief that it contains the fullness of truth, at least as much as is given humans to know on Earth if not entirely understand, since much remains a mystery.
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In other words it can’t really contain all truth.
 
smaneck said:
In other words it can’t really contain all truth.
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That’s not exactly what I said or meant to say. The fullness of truth in Catholicism is thought to be embodied in the Scriptures and the Magisterium of the Church. Nonetheless, that truth is not completely known because G-d did not provide humans with all the knowledge He possesses.
 
MartinJordan said:
Can you cite some examples of Zoroastrians that became Muslim and manner of their conversion? Thanks.
MJ
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Cite no, but there is an entire book on this subject entitled Conflict and Cooperation: Zoroastrian Subalterns and Muslim Elites in Medieval Iranian Society by Jamshid Chomsky.
 
meltzerboy said:
Nonetheless, that truth is not completely known because G-d did not provide humans with all the knowledge He possesses.
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And that’s why I suggested that no religion can contain all truth. God is bigger than any religion.
 
smaneck said:
And that’s why I suggested that no religion can contain all truth. God is bigger than any religion.
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It’s an interesting topic that deserves its own thread. Judaism believes that commentary on the Law is essential and Catholicism likewise has an oral tradition. Still, it is believed (by Judaism) that the Torah contains the answers to EVERYTHING even if all of the answers have not yet been discovered and interpreted since they are buried so deeply in the text.
 
smaneck said:
Cite no, but there is an entire book on this subject entitled Conflict and Cooperation: Zoroastrian Subalterns and Muslim Elites in Medieval Iranian Society by Jamshid Chomsky.
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Thanks. Ah…Jamsheed K. Choksy 😃

MJ
 
meltzerboy said:
Still, it is believed (by Judaism) that the Torah contains the answers to EVERYTHING even if all of the answers have not yet been discovered and interpreted since they are buried so deeply in the text.
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Yes, I’ve heard Muslims and even Baha’is make the same claim about their own scriptures. As someone who has read nearly everyone’s scriptures I find that claim rather silly.
 
smaneck said:
Yes, I’ve heard Muslims and even Baha’is make the same claim about their own scriptures. As someone who has read nearly everyone’s scriptures I find that claim rather silly.
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Read is one thing, but have you intensively studied and analyzed the Torah or the Qur’an?
 
meltzerboy said:
That’s not exactly what I said or meant to say. The fullness of truth in Catholicism is thought to be embodied in the Scriptures and the Magisterium of the Church. Nonetheless, that truth is not completely known because G-d did not provide humans with all the knowledge He possesses.
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I think, meltzerboy, the fullness of the Truth in Catholicism is thought to be contained in the Word made Flesh, Jesus. He is believed to be “in” the Catholic Church in a way that He is not, specifically, “in” any other religions. Perhaps one of our Catholic friends can expand a little more on this mystery. The fullness of all knowledge is contained in the Son of God. Individual humans might not possess full knowledge, but He does, and in Catholicism it is asserted that we can know Him directly, so in that sense it would seem that the Church does possess the fullness of the truth by possessing Him.
 
smaneck said:
Or more specifically, a Prophet. Among the Zoroastrian prophecies was that Sayoshant (the Benefator) would be born of a virgin. This is presumably what the Magi were searching for.
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Aren’t the Magi thought to be Zoroastrians? What about Simon the Magus?
 
smaneck said:
Can any religion contain all of the truth?
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meltzerboy said:
That’s not exactly what I said or meant to say. The fullness of truth in Catholicism is thought to be embodied in the Scriptures and the Magisterium of the Church. Nonetheless, that truth is not completely known because G-d did not provide humans with all the knowledge He possesses.
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I agree, a religion cannot contain all of the truth because God the infinite being is the truth. We who are finite cannot contain the infinite. However the fullness of divine revelation is safeguarded and preached by the Catholic Church.
 
I notice that you have recently asked a similar question about Methodists, Adventists, Calvanism, Baptists, Lutherans, Zarathusterism, Zoroastrianism, Rastafarianism, Confucianism, and Islam.

You seem very inquisitive, and appear to have a substantial amount of free time to devote to research of topics that would fill the Library of Alexandria. Please forgive me for also noting that your questions are also indicative that you are a troll, and should be ignored.
 
DavidFilmer said:
I notice that you have recently asked a similar question about Methodists, Adventists, Calvanism, Baptists, Lutherans, Zarathusterism, Zoroastrianism, Rastafarianism, Confucianism, and Islam.

You seem very inquisitive, and appear to have a substantial amount of free time to devote to research of topics that would fill the Library of Alexandria. Please forgive me for also noting that your questions are also indicative that you are a troll, and should be ignored.
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I think that’s a little unfair to say, as I’ve been on a few of FireFromHeaven’s threads and he seems very sincere. He’s getting into and excited about his faith and apologetics and wants to learn as much as he can. Doesn’t seem very trollish to me:thumbsup:
 
Love4All said:
I think, meltzerboy, the fullness of the Truth in Catholicism is thought to be contained in the Word made Flesh, Jesus. He is believed to be “in” the Catholic Church in a way that He is not, specifically, “in” any other religions. Perhaps one of our Catholic friends can expand a little more on this mystery. The fullness of all knowledge is contained in the Son of God. Individual humans might not possess full knowledge, but He does, and in Catholicism it is asserted that we can know Him directly, so in that sense it would seem that the Church does possess the fullness of the truth by possessing Him.
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Actually, that was a pretty good explanation! Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Are you sure you’re not Catholic??😛
 
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