‘A Catholic case for same-sex marriage’

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aprilfloyd said:
Of the thousands of God’s I can’t think of one that man did not invent
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Man has created many gods indeed. That is one reason God came to meet man in friendship.

Now imagine if you were God and outside of time and you wanted to save man how would you do it?
 
aprilfloyd said:
I don’t think you do because you have an innate sense of morality
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But you’re Wrong, from my point of view, because you’ve already said that Right and Wrong are subjective. It is completely moral for me to kidnap you and your family and friends.
 
OxygenMan said:
aprilfloyd;10386141:
No. You made the claim that atheists have not done horrible things to carry out their own personal morality. They most certainly have.
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Indeed. Hitler thought that the concentration camps were moral. The pictures of the doctors and aides at those camps, when they weren’t working, show them smiling and laughing. They are at peace with the God-awful things they did to other human beings.

Please explain how their own subjective view of being Right excuses the atrocities they committed.
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Lochias said:
OxygenMan;10386147:
Indeed. Hitler thought that the concentration camps were moral. The pictures of the doctors and aides at those camps, when they weren’t working, show them smiling and laughing. They are at peace with the God-awful things they did to other human beings.

Please explain how their own subjective view of being Right excuses the atrocities they committed.
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It does not.
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aprilfloyd said:
OxygenMan;10386147:
I meant in the name of atheism .

Atheism is not a group of people who act together
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No no no, we’re talking about Right, Wrong and Morality.

Please explain why the executioners and doctors at the concentration camps were evil for what they did. They thought they were in the Right.
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aprilfloyd said:
What do you mean?
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You’ve said that Right and Wrong are subjective.

But then you called what the Nazis did Wrong, while they thought what they did was Right.

Which is it: Are there many times when Right and Wrong AREN’T subjective, but instead objective, or should we have just left those poor, misunderstood Nazis alone, 'cause who are WE to tell them what’s right and wrong?

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Lochias said:
You’ve said that Right and Wrong are subjective.

But then you called what the Nazis did Wrong, while they thought what they did was Right.

Which is it: Are there many times when Right and Wrong AREN’T subjective, but instead objective, or should we have just left those poor, misunderstood Nazis alone, 'cause who are WE to tell them what’s right and wrong?

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Yep. Let’s just create right and wrong out of thin air. All you’re hearing folks is attempts to impose the Dictatorship of Relativism.

Pope Benedict:

“We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one’s own ego and one’s own desires. The church must defend itself against threats such as “radical individualism” and “vague religious mysticism”. [emphasis added]”

Who’s stopping any gay (LGBT) people from living how they want?

I suggest the constant drone here from gay marriage supporters just stop. The Church has the truth.

Peace,
Ed
 
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