‘Death row killer’s ’excruciating’ execution was like ‘drowning’

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‘Death row killer’s ’excruciating’ execution was like ‘drowning’​

A death-row inmate executed for the murder of a woman and the rape and murder of a teenage girl suffered ”excruciating” pain “similar to drowning” during the lethal injection procedure.

Wesley Ira Purkey was put to death last month by an injection of pentobarbital in Terre Haute federal penitentiary, Indiana.

An autopsy performed on Purkey, it was revealed today, revealed he suffered “severe bilateral acute pulmonary oedema” and “frothy pulmonary oedema in trachea and main stem bronchi”.
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See more at link.

Without getting too much into politics and the very terrible things he did, I found this article on how these condemned suffered of interest.

The victim’s family in this case, one may see in the article, did feel vengeful towards one of the convicted and I certainly have my thoughts and feelings for them too.

How would one like to be on death row and know what this article says?

We are suppose to be protected from “cruel and unusual” punishment.
 
I suppose, since this took place in Australia, you’d know best about it. (You are Australian, right? I didn’t get confused?)
 
The churches “change” in opinion on the death penalty is probably the only issue I struggle to agree with.

Even though I do see the death penalty as justified, particularly when an inmate is such a danger he or she puts the lives of those entrusted to his care in danger, I do not think inmates should be drowned. Lethal injection is performed, I’m assuming probably because it appears more humanane to give an injection. But if death is not instantaneous and relatively painless then they should not continue. There are other methods that could be utilized.
 
Victoria33 said:
The victim’s family in this case, one may see in the article, did feel vengeful towards one of the convicted and I certainly have my thoughts and feelings for them too.

How would one like to be on death row and know what this article says?

We are suppose to be protected from “cruel and unusual” punishment.
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The better question, I think, is “What is the best legal consequence for a criminal?” The two criminals on the two crosses beside the Lord, as He was dying for our redemption, suggest many observations.
Luke 23:39 Now one of the criminals hanging there reviled Jesus, saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us.”
40 The other, however, rebuking him, said in reply, “Have you no fear of God, for you are subject to the same condemnation?
41 And indeed, we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal.”
42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
43 He replied to him, “Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
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One of the two, even facing death, shows no remorse or repentance for his crimes, and only seeks some way out of his personal sufferings for those crimes.

The other man is very different. He knows his guilt, and not only accepts his personal punishment, but also understands the legal justice of it:
“… we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal.”

The punishment ought to fit the crime: that is simple justice. What parent does not understand that the child needs appropriate consequences for bad actions - punishment ought to fit the “crime”, while at the same time expressing mercy (love, sometimes “tough love”). God understands that also, both justice and mercy – thus, there is purgatory; not only heaven or hell, but purgative correction when necessary, for human persons.
 
Freddy said:
Unless you deserve it.
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Do you reject the Constitution?

I believe in the Constitution and rule of law, not vigilantism.

Amendment 8.

The Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits the federal government from imposing cruel and unusual punishment for federal crimes. The amendment states, “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment inflicted.” The due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution bars the states from inflicting such punishment for state crimes, and most state constitutions also prohibit the infliction of cruel and unusual punishment.


SCOTUS does not always rule properly,

Just being jail, in some of these rough prisons is probably cruel and unusual punishment as far as that goes. The system is not perfect.
 
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The guy raped and stabbed a 16 year old girl to death, and also killed an 80-year-old with a hammer.

He had a few seconds of agony before he died? Maybe a minute? I feel not a whit of sympathy for him.

Imagine what his victims felt as they endured the ordeals he caused.

I also think it’s terribly unkind to instead condemn his victim’s family “vengeful,” as if their feelings are somehow morally wrong or repugnant.
 
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I also think it’s terribly unkind to instead condemn his victim’s family “vengeful,” as if their feelings are somehow morally wrong or repugnant.
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It would be nice to quote this exactly by whomever said this. Saying someone is “vengeful” is hardly stating they are somehow morally wrong or repugnant and so, this is a negative to say about others and false as well.

The family member said he should “rot in hell”.
 
Sorry, you’re the one who used that word - and it sure seemed a pejorative to me.
 
Victoria33 said:
The victim’s family in this case, one may see in the article, did feel vengeful towards one of the convicted and I certainly have my thoughts and feelings for them too.
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That’s where someone said vengeful.
 
If there are some from outside the US, perhaps they could give Americans some latitude in discussing this issue if one does not have a foundation or understanding of American law.
 
Victoria33 said:
If there are some from outside the US, perhaps they could give Americans some latitude in discussing this issue if one does not have a foundation or understanding of American law.
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That, I would totally agree with.
 
It’s a big part of the debate as to whether the Death Penalty is indeed, a tool of vengeance.

There is nothing wrong with stating these facts.

Emotional responses are fine for one’s freedom of speech but there are other aspects of this conversation.
 
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‘Death row killer’s ’excruciating’ execution was like ‘drowning’…
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I’ve had enough surgeries and done enough dope to know that he was totally unconscious within ten seconds of that stuff being pushed into his veins. It’s not excruciating, and not at all like drowning.
 
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Please correct me (gently) if I’m wrong, but didn’t our Church change her teaching about the death penalty? I also thought one of the reasons were that in most developed countries, there is an ability to make sure that person is never in the outside world ever again. If the death penalty is to be used because a person has commit a crime so heinous that it forfeits their privilege to be in our society, and would present a danger to us if they were allowed ever to be out, we in the United States no longer need to kill a person for that to happen. In a poorer, more corrupt country, where a person can easily escape our grease palms for release, the idea of the death penalty makes more sense to me.
 
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