‘Death row killer’s ’excruciating’ execution was like ‘drowning’

[Freddy]

umamibella:

No one deserves it. Unbelievable people still think this way

My guess is @Freddy was being sarcastic.

Not entirely.

Let’s face it, we all have two views on this. One is from the responsible citizen worried about wrongful convictions and the inhumanity of taking a life as a punishment. Freddy the responsible citizen will always argue against capital punishment and will always vote against it. It has no place in a mature society.

Then there’s Freddy the husband. Freddy the father. Freddy the grandfather. Freddy who will demand a baseball bat and a few minutes alone with the killer.

 

[Freddy]

ZemD:

It is an Australian article about executions in America.

Yeah, from what I’ve seen of the Australian press in general, I’m not wasting a click on this clickbait.
And I’m anti-death penalty.

I don’t lecture other countries on their business and I expect to be shown the same courtesy by those other countries.

Go fix your own problems in your own backyard.

That’s a very insular reaction. Don’t you feel you could comment on, say, the death penalty in Saudi or China for example?

 

[Tis_Bearself]

Playing the contrarian position, though, why do we continue to use painful drugs when people can fall into a painless sleep and then death (without any feeling of suffocation) by simply having them breathe straight nitrogen (or whatever gas it is)? Perhaps a morbid thought.

We could also get a ton of opiates, which are readily available, and simply give them a big overdose. They would likely go out quickly and peacefully.

I think the drug “cocktails” are ridiculous. One reason they are used and have the potential to go so wrong is that they paralyze the person before actually killing them, supposedly to avoid any unpleasantness such as the person about to die thrashing around before they actually expire. Heaven forbid the witnesses actually have to watch someone thrash before dying.

I’m also confused about how we can supposedly euthanize, painlessly, people’s beloved pets but somehow we can’t put a death row inmate to death without excruciating pain. Or is my cat somehow suffering terribly when I have her put to sleep, and she just can’t tell me?

But like I said, I’m against the death penalty and support LWOP in a maximum security facility for these sorts of people, so I don’t have to think about this too hard.

 

[neophyte]

We should either have no executions at all or a guillotine/gunshot to the back of the head.

I bet that the quillotine isn’t nearly as quick and painless as many seem to think. A large caliber round to the upper part of the brainstem is probably instantaneous, but indeed messy.

We could also get a ton of opiates, which are readily available, and simply give them a big overdose. They would likely go out quickly and peacefully.

That’s what happens with pentobarbitol: a huge euphoric rush, and the lights go out.

 

[Freddy]

I’m also confused about how we can supposedly euthanize, painlessly, people’s beloved pets but somehow we can’t put a death row inmate to death without excruciating pain. Or is my cat somehow suffering terribly when I have her put to sleep, and she just can’t tell me?

I don’t get this either.

We had our pooch put down a few years back. Broke my heart. But as traumatic as it was, part of me was fascinated by how quick it was. I assumed he’d gently drop off to sleep, but it was to all intents instantaneous.

If I was being killed then I’d want whatever was in that syringe.

 

[Freddy]

RolandThompsonGunner:

We should either have no executions at all or a guillotine/gunshot to the back of the head.

I bet that the quillotine isn’t nearly as quick and painless as many seem to think. A large caliber round to the upper part of the brainstem is probably instantaneous, but indeed messy.

We could also get a ton of opiates, which are readily available, and simply give them a big overdose. They would likely go out quickly and peacefully.

That’s what happens with pentobarbitol: a huge euphoric rush, and the lights go out.

I want to go like my grandad. Peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like all his passengers.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

My husband used to tell that joke before he passed.

 

[27lw]

Hmm, that must be why pentobarbitol is the drug mentioned in this article on PAS and death penalty drugsPlease Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

Navigating the new era of assisted suicide and execution drugs | Journal of Law and the Biosciences | Oxford Academic

 

[Shasta-Rose]

I doubt if his pain was any more “excruciating” than that of his victims.

 

[umamibella]

I’m also confused about how we can supposedly euthanize, painlessly, people’s beloved pets but somehow we can’t put a death row inmate to death without excruciating pain.

I would have suspicions about some sort of pay back at point of execution and unethical practices by individuals in that regard.

 

[Thom18]

If we still think that the death penalty is valid (and it is only in some pretty “extraordinary” circumstances in this day and age), then we should at the least not seek to torture the condemned, or excuse such methods as “the cost for crime”.