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Yeah, I’m sure everyone is in unbrage with the Bible.
Everyone = Richard Dawkins.
Everyone = Richard Dawkins.
Jesus Himself prayed to His Father in Heaven. And Jesus was “a man like us in all things but sin”. Jesus was “the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). And He also was definitely male, based on Luke 2:21, “When eight days were completed for his circumcision, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel before he was conceived in the womb.” [both quotes from the NAB]God IS surely both Father and Mother. We are made in His image. Therefore, He must be both male and female.
Just remember, whoever ads to or takes things out of the scriptures are most likely going to spend their eternity in a really really hot place.
In the first sentence you say that we are created in His image.God IS surely both Father and Mother. We are made in His image. Therefore, He must be both male and female.
There were many branches of Gnostic beliefs. The early Catholic Church did a fairly good job of killing most Gnostics and burning their books.
Nowadays the Catholic Church is not allowed to burn you at the stake for holding Gnostic beliefs, so I would guess they are making a comeback.![]()
newadvent.org/cathen/06592a.htmEspecially notable for their extended and uninterrupted presence up until the modern era are the followers of the Persian Prophet Mani, the Manicheans; and the Pre-Christian Mandaeans who still survive in Iraq and Iran.
I always say “For us MEN and for our salvation” very loud, just to upset the politically correct members of my congregation who say “For us, and for our salvation”I feel bad for people who think that “men” automatically refers to the male gender. It clearly demonstrates a basic lack of knowledge in those people who find it impossible to deal with the fact that “men” can mean all mankind. How hard is it to grasp? Surely not that difficult. If that makes people feel excluded, then I feel bad that they lack that much self-esteem, or the ability to use a dictionary
I am a woman, too, and I always say “For us MEN and for our salvation” as well. Many people butcher English grammar. “They” is a plural pronoun. If referring to one person, whether male or female, the correct pronoun in the sentence is “he”. Don’t get me started on the politically correct hymns, either. “Joy to the World” sounds ridiculous with the lyrics changed to “Let all their songs employ”. All what? Birds, people, etc? “Let MEN their songs employ” sounds fine, and that is how I sing it.I always say “For us MEN and for our salvation” very loud, just to upset the politically correct members of my congregation who say “For us, and for our salvation”
It really sounds silly the mumble that occurs at this part in Mass.
I agree, MEN means MANKIND. And I am a woman![]()
I REALLY hate to rain on our parade but those illustrious shepherds - aka the US bishops - have approved a new translation of the Credo which omits the word “men”, and all those politically-correct ideologues will think they have won when we are forced to proclaim “Who for us and for our salvation”. Which is why I still recite the Gloria, Credo, Agnus Dei in LATIN the way they were recited when I was an altar boy in the early 60s. Repeat after me:I am a woman, too, and I always say “For us MEN and for our salvation” as well. Many people butcher English grammar. “They” is a plural pronoun. If referring to one person, whether male or female, the correct pronoun in the sentence is “he”. Don’t get me started on the politically correct hymns, either. “Joy to the World” sounds ridiculous with the lyrics changed to “Let all their songs employ”. All what? Birds, people, etc? “Let MEN their songs employ” sounds fine, and that is how I sing it.
In the Beginning there was God, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God, … and the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.
God came into the world as Jesus, both God and Man. God is masculine. He is not a She or a female.
One of my major problems is claiming that God is a Woman, or female.
Jesus called God Our Father, in masculine tone, not Mother.
These liberals are better off becoming Gnostics because they believe in Sophie Goddess, who they believe is the wife of God, the Father… (Correct me if I’m incorrect about Gnostic beliefs)
…“Joy to the World” sounds ridiculous with the lyrics changed to “Let all their songs employ”. All what? Birds, people, etc? “Let MEN their songs employ” sounds fine, and that is how I sing it.
Sorry about the above post. It originally has a reply attached to it.
Sophia is actually one of the Aeons in Gnostic belief.
How come God becomes gender-neutral while Satan is masculine? Can’t we form a ‘Masculinist Movement’ protesting the continuing degradation of males in society?![]()
That’s pretty much the saddest commentary on modernist culture that I have heard so far.CONTROVERSIAL “POLITICALLY CORRECT” VERSION OF THE BIBLE PUBLISHED IN GERMANY
Berlin, Nov. 09, 2006 (CNA) - A group of 52 biblical “specialists” have released a new version of the Bible in which inclusive language and “political correctness” have replaced some “divisive” teachings of Christianity in order to present a “more just language” for groups such as feminists and homosexuals.
According to the AFP news agency, the new version of the Sacred Scriptures was presented at a book fair in Frankfurt. Entitled, “The Bible in a More Just Language,” the translation has Jesus no longer referring to God as “Father,” but as “our Mother and Father who are in heaven.”
Read the rest of the story at:
ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=73192
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Are they putting words in Jesus’ mouth? To me, it is kind of like saying, “By popular vote, you lose Jesus. Your teachings are too hard to follow so we’re going to water it down.”
Warmest regards,
Ben
Unfortunately, English has been going down that wrong road for quite a while now. In fact, I suspect that more people who are not native speakers of English may be less prone to corrupting the language. You probably learned English from a course that still uses a traditional textbook. That will change too once those politically correct radicals invade English as Second Language courses!These people do not know English. I’m 14 and not a Native speaker of English (my third language; others are Tagalog and Japanese) yet i knew Men in some cases mean humans in general. (Then again it might be because I read a lot of old books using ‘man’ when I was a kid).
I usually expect those to know the English language better since they are Native Speakers.
I just hope English wouldn’t go the same road as Japanese (In the Japanese media, words for blind, deaf, leper, crazy, farmers,etc. were usually replaced with euphemisms. So in the media, to say ‘blind’ is frowned upon and banned and euphemisms were used such as ‘A person whose eyes cannot see’…![]()