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gilliam
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Lombardi announced it at the press conference today. The press conference is here:Link please?
youtube.com/watch?v=EMEaz2fRo0o
The following article is in German but here is the translation:
Vatican City (kath.net/KNA) The prefect of the Vatican congregation, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, defends itself against the allegation that he had referred to the interim report of the Synod of Bishops as “shameful and completely wrong.” The director of the Vatican press office, Federico Lombardi, had a corresponding media report on Thursday on behalf miller officially as “wrong” back. On Wednesday, the Italian newspaper “La Repubblica” Müller had quoted with these words. They are supposed to be like during the negotiations on the interim report in a so-called small circles.
kath.net/news/47950
I am sure there will be other sources for English translations coming out.
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ProVobis
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Card Muller is right. He didn’t say it. The translator did. Another translator might have translated it differently. Translation is an art and very subjective; it is not science.Lombardi announced it at the press conference today. The press conference is here:
youtube.com/watch?v=EMEaz2fRo0o
The following article is in German but here is the translation:
Vatican City (kath.net/KNA) The prefect of the Vatican congregation, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, defends itself against the allegation that he had referred to the interim report of the Synod of Bishops as “shameful and completely wrong.” The director of the Vatican press office, Federico Lombardi, had a corresponding media report on Thursday on behalf miller officially as “wrong” back. On Wednesday, the Italian newspaper “La Repubblica” Müller had quoted with these words. They are supposed to be like during the negotiations on the interim report in a so-called small circles.
kath.net/news/47950
I am sure there will be other sources for English translations coming out.
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gilliam
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Cardinal Kurtz on gradualness
The second concept is the principle of gradualness, which might be very helpful to the evangelizer in the process of accompanying individuals. The pastoral principle of gradualness and what it means and does not mean is actually found in St. John Paul II’s apostolic exhortation, Familiaris Consortio, which was issued as the fruit of the last synod on the family over 30 years ago. This principle has been part of helpful instructions to confessors during these last 30 years.
It is important that the concept is well understood if we hope it to be properly applied. Let me explain. In considering the role of the principle of gradualness in the divine salvific plan, the Synod delegates ask what possibilities are given to married couples who experience the failure of their marriage; how it is possible to offer them Christ’s help through the ministry of the Church? The theological notion of the law of gradualness and its authentic implementation in the Catholic tradition must be carefully understood in order to answer these questions.
The “law of gradualness” cannot be interpreted as “gradualness of the law” which implies that the law is “merely an ideal to be achieved in the future” (FC 34). Any suggestion that would cause the law of gradualness to be equated or even related to relativism or proportionalism must be avoided, since both relativism and proportionalism are foreign to magisterial teaching (Veritatis Splendor 65ff, esp. 75). Along these lines, and as noted in the Vademecum for Confessors (1997), “the pastoral ‘law of gradualness’ must not be confused with ‘gradualness of the law’ which would tend to diminish the demands it places on us” (VC 3.9). The law of gradualness, “consists of requiring a decisive break with sin together with a progressive path towards total union with the will of God and with his loving demands” (VC 3.9, emphasis in original). Therefore, the willingness to abide by Jesus’ teaching on such matters, including a decisive break from sin, should be regarded as an essential starting point for gradual growth in holiness.
These principles of a missionary outlook and the proper use of the principle of gradualness will be discussed in these last days of the Synod. This direction is certainly consistent with the time-honored principle that how we pray is rooted in the authentic teaching of the Church, that is, in what we believe. This same integrity calls us to root all of our pastoral service directly in the authentic teaching of the Church.
archlou.org/2014/10/16/synod-blog-october-16-2014/
The second concept is the principle of gradualness, which might be very helpful to the evangelizer in the process of accompanying individuals. The pastoral principle of gradualness and what it means and does not mean is actually found in St. John Paul II’s apostolic exhortation, Familiaris Consortio, which was issued as the fruit of the last synod on the family over 30 years ago. This principle has been part of helpful instructions to confessors during these last 30 years.
It is important that the concept is well understood if we hope it to be properly applied. Let me explain. In considering the role of the principle of gradualness in the divine salvific plan, the Synod delegates ask what possibilities are given to married couples who experience the failure of their marriage; how it is possible to offer them Christ’s help through the ministry of the Church? The theological notion of the law of gradualness and its authentic implementation in the Catholic tradition must be carefully understood in order to answer these questions.
The “law of gradualness” cannot be interpreted as “gradualness of the law” which implies that the law is “merely an ideal to be achieved in the future” (FC 34). Any suggestion that would cause the law of gradualness to be equated or even related to relativism or proportionalism must be avoided, since both relativism and proportionalism are foreign to magisterial teaching (Veritatis Splendor 65ff, esp. 75). Along these lines, and as noted in the Vademecum for Confessors (1997), “the pastoral ‘law of gradualness’ must not be confused with ‘gradualness of the law’ which would tend to diminish the demands it places on us” (VC 3.9). The law of gradualness, “consists of requiring a decisive break with sin together with a progressive path towards total union with the will of God and with his loving demands” (VC 3.9, emphasis in original). Therefore, the willingness to abide by Jesus’ teaching on such matters, including a decisive break from sin, should be regarded as an essential starting point for gradual growth in holiness.
These principles of a missionary outlook and the proper use of the principle of gradualness will be discussed in these last days of the Synod. This direction is certainly consistent with the time-honored principle that how we pray is rooted in the authentic teaching of the Church, that is, in what we believe. This same integrity calls us to root all of our pastoral service directly in the authentic teaching of the Church.
archlou.org/2014/10/16/synod-blog-october-16-2014/
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LongingSoul
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I really think Fr. Barron sums it up well:
Bloviating. My new favourite word!!! Thanks Fr. Barron.Until Vatican II, these preliminary arguments and conversations were known only to the participants themselves and to certain specialist historians who eventually sifted through the records. The great teachings of the Councils became widely known and celebrated, but the process that produced them was, happily enough, consigned to the shadows. If I might quote the great Newman, who had a rather unsatisfying experience of official ecclesial life in Rome: “those who love the barque of Peter ought to stay out of the engine room!” This is a somewhat more refined version of “those who enjoy sausage ought never to watch how it is made.” The interim report on the Synod represents a very early stage of the sausage-making process and, unsurprisingly, it isn’t pretty. Two more weeks of discussion will follow; then a full year during which the findings of the Synod will be further refined, argued about, and clarified; then the Ordinary Synod on the Family will take place (the one going on now is the Extraordinary Synod), and many more arguments and counter-arguments will be made; finally, some months, perhaps even a year or so, after that, the Pope will write a post-Synodal exhortation summing up the entire process and offering a definitive take on the matter. At that point, I would suggest, something resembling edible sausage will be available for our consumption; until then, we should all be patient and refrain from bloviating.
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