“The hour has come .... abandon the practice of Communion standing and in the hand”

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DustinsDad said:
All at the same time.

I could only guess since it doesn’t specify - but I would take it to be in regards to Holy Communion - in that the person receiving Holy Communion must be baptized and free from all mortal sin.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
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That’s funny. Because at a recent wedding ceremony which took place in a Catholic Church between a converted Jewish woman and a Catholic, the priest gave Communion in the hand to the Jewish family members.
 
How can someone who isn’t a Christian receive communion? It sounds like the bishop needs to have a talk with the priest:mad:
 
redrosetea said:
How can someone who isn’t a Christian receive communion? It sounds like the bishop needs to have a talk with the priest:mad:
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Did he know they were Jewish?

At Dad’s funeral the priest came down to the first pew to give Communion to the family: me, my brother and his Jewish partner. Priest didn’t know them, so had no way of knowing that K. wasn’t my older brother.

Back home he told me that he hadn’t known what to, didn’t know if it was OK to receive and, if it wasn’t, didn’t know how to refuse. Not likely he’ll ever find himself in that situation again, unless I die first, but I let him know that simply shaking his head ‘no’ and not putting out his hand should be enough for the priest to pass him by.
 
I would come right out and tell them they couldn’t receive communion in a nice way, before the event ever took place

If the priest didn’t know what he was doing , the family certainly must have…shame on them
 
michaeldaniels said:
Are we the only generation that has had senior citizens? They managed back then…they can do it now.
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In my parish we have many standard practices such as standing for long periods, kneeling and prostrations that simply can’t be preformed by the very elderly. The way we handle it is to mind our own business. They,and the priest, know if they can or can’t kneel and the rest of us need to focus on ourselves and our own practice.

Bridget
 
redrosetea said:
I didn’t read the whole thread, but I have a question…It might have already been answered if so I apologize…sometimes the stuff here gets a little too technical, and I ain’t all that bright…😃 so I didn’t wade through all of it

What do you propose people who can’t kneel are going to do if this happens? Oodles of people now have knee replacements, and they can’t kneel if they tried?:confused:

It sounds like it’s more important to some of you, that it looks a certain way, than if people are able to do it:shrug:
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Same thing they did before VII. Receive standing, on the tongue. I saw a few elderly folks do so today at a TLM. No big deal.

These folks are one of the greatest treasures of the Church.
 
ProVobis said:
MrS, there may be some truth to abandoning this practice after all.

the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com/2008/05/pope-benedict-discourages-communion-in.html
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So, now that the Pope seems to be discouraging the practice, we who have been voicing our concerns about it for so long don’t look so foolish and “holier than the Pope” as we have been made to feel.

I pray that Pope Benedict will have the courage and fortitude to carry this through to it’s natural end: the banning of the practice of Communion in the hand completely.
 
bobzills said:
That’s funny. Because at a recent wedding ceremony which took place in a Catholic Church between a converted Jewish woman and a Catholic, the priest gave Communion in the hand to the Jewish family members.
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If persons of Jewish faith received Communion, it is absolutely scandalous. It is the priest’s responsibility (as well as the family’s) to make it clear before the service that only practicing and properly disposed Catholics may receive.
 
I think the problem with people starting back the practice of knelling before receiving communion or not taking it in the hand is that people no longer believe in the presents of Christ in the Eucharist. I believe I heard that it was close to 60 percent of Catholic’s do not believe in the body, soul, and divinity in the Eucharist. :eek: We need to bring back the reverence in the church.
 
bobzills said:
That’s funny. Because at a recent wedding ceremony which took place in a Catholic Church between a converted Jewish woman and a Catholic, the priest gave Communion in the hand to the Jewish family members.
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That is strange. As far as I know communion can be received only by those who believe in the transubstantiation of the brread and wine into the actual body and blood of Christ. It is instances like this that do give scandal and cause misunderstandings of the doctrines of the Church. I wonder what this specific priest’s thinking was???
 
Something like this has nothing whatsoever to do with receiving Communion in the hand. It has everything to do with the thinking of the priest, whose thoughts none of us are privy to.
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Deacon Ed B
 
A great response Deacon Ed!

With regard to the controversy on communion in the hand or on the tongue, in my parish it is done both ways. Religion is partly about feeling so if it makes one feel better to receive communion on the tongue, that should be the way it is done for that person. A person used to this method should not be forced to change.Same for recieving it in the hand. No need to be judgemental with either method.

Christ indicted reverence comes from in side the heart not necessarily by demonstrating by ritual. You can be reverent by taking communion in the hand,on the tongue, keeling or standing.

I think the real point is that we christians should not spend so much time on the superficiality of religion and more time on thinking and acting on how to solve the problems of the world ,to leave it in better condition for our children.
 
JosephDaniel said:
A great response Deacon Ed!

With regard to the controversy on communion in the hand or on the tongue, in my parish it is done both ways. Religion is partly about feeling so if it makes one feel better to receive communion on the tongue, that should be the way it is done for that person. A person used to this method should not be forced to change.Same for recieving it in the hand. No need to be judgemental with either method.

Christ indicted reverence comes from in side the heart not necessarily by demonstrating by ritual. You can be reverent by taking communion in the hand,on the tongue, keeling or standing.

I think the real point is that we christians should not spend so much time on the superficiality of religion and more time on thinking and acting on how to solve the problems of the world ,to leave it in better condition for our children.
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Excellent response and observation Joseph. And welcome to the forum.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Over the centuries, Holy Mother Church has always accommodated those elderly, infirmed or handicapped in whatever way possible for them to attend mass, and receive communion. We are after all talking about our Mother the Church. I am really surprised that this thread has persisted as long as it has. This is not a call to end it, but please lets have new thoughts about it.
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Deacon Ed B
 
I don’t understand the devotion communion in the hand. If it was not allowed, would it really change anything?

Why is there such a problem with doing away with communion in the hand? It’s not like communion on the tongue is complicated or anything.
 
JosephDaniel said:
A great response Deacon Ed!

With regard to the controversy on communion in the hand or on the tongue, in my parish it is done both ways. Religion is partly about feeling so if it makes one feel better to receive communion on the tongue, that should be the way it is done for that person. A person used to this method should not be forced to change.Same for recieving it in the hand. No need to be judgemental with either method.

Christ indicted reverence comes from in side the heart not necessarily by demonstrating by ritual. You can be reverent by taking communion in the hand,on the tongue, keeling or standing.

I think the real point is that we christians should not spend so much time on the superficiality of religion and more time on thinking and acting on how to solve the problems of the world ,to leave it in better condition for our children.
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So, are you saying or implying that kneeling and other signs of heart felt reverence are ritual? If so, what would you name the more recent postures (IMHO they are abuses called norms).

I would love to see the problems of the world solved, but it is afterall the world. We are here to get out of here.
 
MrS said:
So, are you saying or implying that kneeling and other signs of heart felt reverence are ritual?
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Just curious. Please explain how you jumped to this conclusion?
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
Just curious. Please explain how you jumped to this conclusion?
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Deacon Ed B
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I did not jump.

The posters own words are:

Christ indicted reverence comes from in side the heart not necessarily by demonstrating by ritual.

followed by non-heart forms of reverence:

You can be reverent by taking communion in the hand,on the tongue, keeling or standing.

So I asked if that was implying that postures are simply ritual? I think that postures are the outward sign of the heart.

Those who prefere the more “casual” (IMHO) postures are also speaking from their hearts.

The reason I started this thread was because

1] I was glad to see that some one in a higher authority within the Church was laying it on the line.

2] I happen to agree that “…the hour has come…”

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