1 Corinthians 4:14-16

[peace2u2]

Last night when I came across 1 Corinthians 4:14-16, is St. Paul suggesting that he is a Catholic priest by saying “For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.” ?

Because that was my immediate reaction to reading it and therefore, how do our Protestant brothers and sisters interpret that particular verse? Do their Bibles use a different word in place of “father”?

To me, the word “father” used in Sacred Scripture dispels the notion of the Protestant belief of calling no man father.

Also, when I come across Scripture with the word “Magistrate”, it certainly looks and sounds a lot like “Magisterium”. When did the Catholic Church start referring to herself as being the Magisterium, the teaching Office of the Catholic Church? When those particular words were spoken or at a later date?

Thanking you in advance to helping me to understand those two words in Scripture, “father” and “magistrate”.

 

[poptown]

For the first problem, I guess Protestants would say they can call the Apostles “father”, but not those bishops and clergymen in the Catholic Church, whose authority Protestants do not recognize.

 

[PaulfromIowa]

Protestant bibles are mostly the same. Your are correct that taking “call no man your father” literally is silly. We couldn’t even call our biological father ‘Father’ if that were true.

 

[JerryZ]

Protestant bibles are mostly the same. Your are correct that taking “call no man your father” literally is silly. We couldn’t even call our biological father ‘Father’ if that were true.

Sola scriptura hits again?

 

[ltwin]

Last night when I came across 1 Corinthians 4:14-16, is St. Paul suggesting that he is a Catholic priest by saying “For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.” ?

Because that was my immediate reaction to reading it and therefore, how do our Protestant brothers and sisters interpret that particular verse? Do their Bibles use a different word in place of “father”?

To me, the word “father” used in Sacred Scripture dispels the notion of the Protestant belief of calling no man father.

Also, when I come across Scripture with the word “Magistrate”, it certainly looks and sounds a lot like “Magisterium”. When did the Catholic Church start referring to herself as being the Magisterium, the teaching Office of the Catholic Church? When those particular words were spoken or at a later date?

Thanking you in advance to helping me to understand those two words in Scripture, “father” and “magistrate”.

Protestants do recognize that we can have spiritual fathers and mothers. However, many of us would only actually consider someone a spiritual father who actually invested time in our spiritual development. So, a pastor that had an actual impact on my life as a spiritual father, but I would not call every pastor or minister “father.”

And I may be wrong about this but wasn’t the church at Corinth founded through Paul’s missionary work? So in a very real since Paul was their “father through the gospel” and they his “dear children.”

Anyway, I don’t have any objection to someone else calling their pastor “father.” I just don’t see it as a title of respect that I would use.

I’m not understanding the question about the word “magistrate.” It is not an exclusively Catholic word. From the dictionary:

mag·is·trate   [maj-uh-streyt, -strit]
noun
1.
a civil officer charged with the administration of the law.
2.
a minor judicial officer, as a justice of the peace or the judge of a police court, having jurisdiction to try minor criminal cases and to conduct preliminary examinations of persons charged with serious crimes.

Magistrates were civil officials of the Roman Empire.

 

[po18guy]

Jesus did not tell the Pharisees, “For Moses said, honor your male and female parents” in Mark 7:9-13. He said “mother and father.” Twice.

Fundamentalism gone wild. Yet, I have never seen a findamentalist who has cut off hand or foot, or who has plucked an eye out to save his soul (Matthew 5:29, 18:8).

 

[pablope]

Last night when I came across 1 Corinthians 4:14-16, is St. Paul suggesting that he is a Catholic priest by saying “For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.” ?

Because that was my immediate reaction to reading it and therefore, how do our Protestant brothers and sisters interpret that particular verse? Do their Bibles use a different word in place of “father”?

 

[guanophore]

I’m not understanding the question about the word “magistrate.” It is not an exclusively Catholic word. From the dictionary:

Magistrates were civil officials of the Roman Empire.

It is a Latinization that is not found in the Gk, where a different word is used. It refers to the Teaching and Ruling authority that Jesus left with the Church. It relates to the concept of the Seat of Moses, something that comes to us through Jewish Sacred Tradition:

Matt 23:1-3

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it…

Jesus replaced the scribes and pharisees on the Seat of Moses, and left His Church in that seat when He returned to heaven. To the Church is given the authority to rule, guide, instruct and discipline the flock.

 

[ltwin]

It is a Latinization that is not found in the Gk, where a different word is used. It refers to the Teaching and Ruling authority that Jesus left with the Church. It relates to the concept of the Seat of Moses, something that comes to us through Jewish Sacred Tradition:

Matt 23:1-3

Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it…

Jesus replaced the scribes and pharisees on the Seat of Moses, and left His Church in that seat when He returned to heaven. To the Church is given the authority to rule, guide, instruct and discipline the flock.

I know what the Magisterium is. It sounded to me like the OP was saying that because the term “magistrate” shows up in the Bible then that somehow proves something about Catholic authority.