1 Peter 1:18 and the use of the term "tradition"

[Akitaiso]

Hi all And may God bless you,
I am wondering if the word “tradition” is the correct word St. Peter is using in 1:18, as he is addressing a Gentile community?
I’m encountering the Protestant objection to “Traditions” and I’m taking the tact that 1. The Jews were given traditions by God and through the O.T. patriarchs and alsoo would not be referring to them but to the pagan traditions of the Gentiles.
Thank any who respond and God bless you all.

 

[Peebo]

Jesus never wrote anything down…he taught the Apostles orally…they in turn passed on the “tradition” to others who they appointed…and so on…the 4 gospels were written down following the oral “traditions” that were being handed down…there was no canon of the Bible for nearly 400 years…they reject tradition yet if it wasn’t for oral “tradition” there would be no gospels…no doubt you are being questioned by “bible alone” Christians…and how the Catholic church is an apostate church which follows the “traditions of men”…nor do they accept the words of Jesus Christ…that he told Peter that “upon this rock I will build my church…and I will give to you the keys to the kingdom…and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven…and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven”…those words spoken by Jesus Christ are the “traditional” foundation upon which Christ built his church…they reject all of that…personally I wouldn’t even bother trying to explain to them…they just want to knock the Catholic church…2nd. Thess.2-15…therefore brothers stand firm and hold fast to the “traditions” that you were taught either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours…1st.Corr.11-2 I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the “traditions” just as I handed them on to you…and there are other verses in scripture…

 

[po18guy]

Tradition is merely that which is ‘handed on’ or ‘handed down’ - like the Protestant “tradition” which has been handed down to them.

Did they miss Saint Paul as he extolled the goodness of holding to Christian traditions? I think they did.

1 Corinthians 11:2
Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.

If so-called bible Christians would only read the bible!

 

[Peebo]

And lets not forget that most blessed of all “traditions”…when Christ taught the Apostles the words of eternal life which we have had handed down since the beginnings of Christianity…the Institution of the Eucharist…John 6…and re affirmed in 1st.Cor.11-23…the “tradition” of the Institution of the Eucharist…Bible alone believers skim over…brush off as not important…re-interpret the words of Christ…or just ignore all these traditions because they are too Catholic to fit with their belief

 

[Peebo]

The “sinners prayer” is a good example of Bible alone tradition…no such thing in the Bible

 

[Akitaiso]

Than you both. I actually know the issue of tradition quite well, so I have no issue with traditions.
I just wanted to confirm the use of tradition in this Epistle of Peter in this case. And the way I understand it is that Peter is compairing what the Gentiles, who were pagan, getting when they abandoned their pagan traditions.

Thank you and God bless.

 

[po18guy]

And “altar calls”

 

[EndTimes]

In Catholicism - there’s two Understandings and uses of the term “tradition”

There’s Sacred Apostolic Tradition - also involving God’s Revelation (as does Sacred Scriptures aka the Bible) which ended at the death of the Last Apostle John - circa 100 AD

And there’s ecclesial traditions - which can vary…

The Bible … as we know it - did not Exist in the 1st Century AD…

There’s the Actual - Teachings and Miracles of Jesus
I.E. The Events Themselves - As and When they Occurred

followed by

The Oral Accounts of the Apostles, etc.

followed by the various

Written Accounts including Gospels and Letters based upon The Oral Accounts
which around 400 AD were scoured leaving what came to be approved as CANON.
and which in turn are what we’ve come to know as The Bible

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ALL THE ABOVE - ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ONE ANOTHER

The Saint James English Bible Translation of Prior Translations
… came into existence - 1611 AD

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[Genesis315]

Just because something is a tradition, doesn’t mean it’s helpful or good. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t also good traditions. Just like the fact that not every religious writing is good or helpful does not detract from the fact that those included in the canon of Scripture are. For some reasons Protestants easily make the second distinction, but can’t wrap their heads around the first. It’s like the word “tradition” is a naughty word to them.

Here’s the Haydock commentary on 1 Peter 1:18

From your vain conversation of the tradition of your fathers. St. Peter teacheth what St. Paul repeats in many places, that it was in vain for them to hope to be saved by the ceremonies and precepts of the former law, to which their forefathers had added many unnecessary and groundless traditions. They could only hope for salvation by believing in Christ, by the price of whose precious blood they were redeemed from their sins, as they had heard by the word of the gospel preached to them. His doctrine is the same with that of St. Paul, of St. James, of St. John, and of the other apostles, that to be saved it is not enough to have faith or hope in Christ, but it must be a faith joined and working by charity, obeying the law of Christ in the spirit of charity with a sincere and brotherly love of every one, without setting our hearts upon the vanities and corruptible things of this world, remembering that all flesh is as grass, or the flowers of the field, which wither and pass away in a very short time. Thus presently vanish all riches, honours, pleasures, and all the glory of this life, but the word of God and his promises will bring us to happiness which will last for ever. (Witham)

 

[EndTimes]

Catholic Church Teachings with regard to Tradition and tradition.

From the CCC (Catechism of The Catholic Church)
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Apostolic Tradition and ecclesial traditions

83 The Tradition here in question comes from the apostles and hands on what they received from Jesus’ teaching and example and what they learned from the Holy Spirit. The first generation of Christians did not yet have a written New Testament, and the New Testament itself demonstrates the process of living Tradition.

Tradition is to be distinguished from the various theological, disciplinary, liturgical or devotional traditions, born in the local churches over time. These are the particular forms, adapted to different places and times, in which the great Tradition is expressed. In the light of Tradition, these traditions can be retained, modified or even abandoned under the guidance of the Church’s Magisterium.