100 Billion Planets in our Galaxy

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The problem is you are repeating yourself rather than adapting and addressing counterpoints.

Also I did not say that was all that was required because my point was always that the space could be expanding faster than the speed of light and light could still cross it. That was the entire point of bringing up the ant paradox in the first place. I’m not sure you ever understood that.
 
In all probability there are other planets with life on them.

Now, intelligent life capable of space travel?
Much more rare. Remember, life on our rock was 3.5 billion years old before anything artificial was flown in space.
 
I’m not enough of an egghead to explain non-overlapping magisteria. That’s why I included the link. I hope that helps.
Right, the link was helpful, but i disagree with some of the assertions.
 
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Freddy:
That equation shows the apparent decrease in length (not size) as speed increases.
For a thin rod, the length is the size.
Mmm. Which gets smaller apparently.
 
Mmm. Which gets smaller apparently.
Suppose that the ant is not moving. Then his size does not change. But if everything around him is moving and expanding, then the linear size of the surroundings will decrease. So whereas the ant had to travel 2 feet to get to his destination, he now has to travel only 1 foot. But at the same time the space is expanding so that the space that was one foot in length is now 2 feet?
 
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Freddy:
Mmm. Which gets smaller apparently.
Suppose that the ant is not moving. Then his size does not change. But if everything around him is moving and expanding, then the linear size of the surroundings will decrease. So whereas the ant had to travel 2 feet to get to his destination, he now has to travel only 1 foot. But at the same time the space is expanding so that the space that was one foot in length is now 2 feet?
AinG, forget ants and balloons and rubber bands and thin rods and…whatever else you are contemplating. If you are sitting in one galaxy and the space between your galaxy and another waaaaay over there is expanding faster than the speed of light then the galaxy waaay over there is moving away from you faster than you can move towards it. It’s not moving within its own reference frame so it isn’t getting any smaller. The space between it and you is getting bigger. Faster than you can travel.
 
The space between it and you is getting bigger.
That is a result of the Big Bang. However, recently there has been interest in the Big Bounce and the possibility of a continuing cycle of contraction and expansion.

 
There are, at the very least, around 100 billion planets in the Milky Way Galaxy.
Realize that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies too.
The earth is but a speck of dust in the big scheme of things; but the purpose of Earth is special in that it is a womb to harvest countless billions of souls where God can sanctify and weaves holiness and virtue through His grace, in order for souls to have a share in His eternal life. The souls that choose Him and are saved will inherit the Kingdom of God. Thus one of the Four Qualities of the risen glorified body is the quality of Agility – in heaven the glorified body will obey the soul with the greatest ease and speed of movement as we read in 1 Corinthians 15:43: “

It is sown in weakness, it shall rise in power.” The glorified bodies will be agile like the Resurrected Lord’s ability to bilocate and travel great distances in an instant. in other words, with the speed of thought one will move from one location in the universe to another.

As it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”- 1 Cor. 2:9
 
Except you are oversimplifying. It matters that it is the space that is expanding and not the object that is moving away from you. Because of that as you get closer, it’s apparent speed gets lower.

This is mathematically verifiable and you need more than simple expansion to show that something is out of reach. Just saying it is moving away faster than c is not sufficient.
 
I’m going to use your numbers to demonstrate this. Alpha centauri is about 4 light years away from Earth. Now we’re going to draw a line. Point A is Earth. Point B is Alpha Centauri. Point C is a hypothetical star that is infinitesimally past 4,400 megaparsecs away from Earth. By your calculations that means Point C is unreachable by light from Earth, but is still reachable by light from Alpha Centauri.

Now a photon leaves Earth towards Alpha Centauri, and is naturally travelling at light speed. In 4 years it passes Alpha Centauri and begins it’s journey on towards C. In that time, the distance between Earth and Point C has grown 4 light years. However, the distance between Alpha Centauri and Point C has grown less than that. Only about 10,722 km less, but since Point C was 4,400 megaparsecs minus 4 light years away from Alpha Centauri, it is still less than 4,400 megaparsecs now. The distance between Alpha Centauri and Point C is still growing at less than light speed.

The photon, which was emitted from Earth after Point C was out of range, is now within range of Point C.
 
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You are forgetting that alpha centauri moves with us because we are in the same gravity well of our Galaxy. You can’t shoe horn our two solar systems into your equation when expressing galactic distance.

The point is Milkway is traveling x speed one way, distant start in distant Galaxy is moving at y speed another.
Between the two AND space expanding you can never send a vessal capable of transversing the distance.

Should be like trying to run off a treadmill.
 
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I used physical objects as a frame of reference for ease of visualization. I could just as easily choose three points in the same configuration that are all in the depths of intergalactic space; the math would work out the same way. The point is that regions of space that are allegedly unreachable because of the speed of expansion are actually still reachable.
 
In a previous life, I studied a lot of advanced applied mathematics. I am quite rusty, I want to do a little work on yours and Freddy’s scenarios. Just by reading, Freddy’s results seemed to make sense, now your contrary results make sense. Either way, it appears a little counter intuitive, but I figure if I work on it a bit, it will make sense. Thanks to both of you.
 
In a previous life, I studied a lot of advanced applied mathematics. I am quite rusty, I want to do a little work on yours and Freddy’s scenarios. Just by reading, Freddy’s results seemed to make sense, now your contrary results make sense. Either way, it appears a little counter intuitive, but I figure if I work on it a bit, it will make sense. Thanks to both of you.
That’s because they’re conflating a couple of different ideas together. But the flag police have made me extremely hesitant to join any discussions on this forum. (I have no idea what I was flagged for this time)

But I will offer a link that will hopefully explain the discrepancy between the two arguments.



And lastly:

 
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Thanks for the links. Hate to hear about your problems with flagging.
 
I understand how amazing the human race is due to God creating us all but how could there only be one planet out of the hundreds of billions
Who said that there was? After-all the bible is concerned primarily with the destiny of the human race. That doesn’t mean that there are not vast empires of creatures spread out across the universe.
 
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What if someone already found us but saw only dinosaurs?
 
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