117 Russians in hospital after drinking holy water

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117 Russians in hospital after drinking holy water
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 						01/25/2010 | 08:37 PM
More than 100 Russian Orthodox believers have been hospitalized after drinking holy water during Epiphany celebrations in the eastern city of Irkutsk, an official said Monday.

A total of 117 people, including 48 children, were in the hospital complaining of acute intestinal pain after drinking water from wells in and around a local church last week, said Vladimir Salovarov, a spokesman for the Irkutsk Investigative Committee.

Salovarov said 204 people required some medical treatment after consuming the water, the source of which was a stagnant lake. He said, however, that it was too early to say what caused the illness.

Many Russians consider any water obtained on Epiphany — which they celebrate on Jan. 19 — to be holy.

The water is typically bottled for consumption later. Tap water in most of Russia is undrinkable. **- AP

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You can basically call ANYTHING holy. But is the thing really holy??? Its mere self-deception aka delusion. Some people worship stones and call these holy and walk around them on an annual basis.

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Mosacked said:
You can basically call ANYTHING holy. But is the thing really holy??? Its mere self-deception aka delusion. Some people worship stones and call these holy and walk around them on an annual basis.

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**And this is exactly what I mean about the unproductive nature of this thread. It has opened up a Pandoras Box of criticism of the Eastern Orthodox tradition.

Holiness of earthly things - animate and in-animate is a tenet of both RC and EO faiths.

Those seeking to quibble about who is more “holy” do themselves a disservice - and should refrain.**
 
The real question might be: Is blessed water with e-coli really blessed?

Maybe the blesser was not authorized to bless that kind of water.

Perhaps a few drops of sodium hypochlorite(aka: bleach) should be added to the water the night before it is blessed. Then there is the problem with the toxicity of the chlorine ion.

Maybe the revenge of Montezuma is a better option.

It is still good advice: Do not drink the water.

Poor control of defecation upstream has been a problem for those downstream for millenia. It gets worse as the world population approaches 7-Billion. Actually, the whole hydro system is polluted–we are good at such things.

Are we looking for a new heaven and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness? The River of Life is not polluted, even though many have tried.

We probably cannot blame it on God.

Now what?

Peace,

James Least
 
James_Least said:
The real question might be: Is blessed water with e-coli really blessed?

Maybe the blesser was not authorized to bless that kind of water.

Perhaps a few drops of sodium hypochlorite(aka: bleach) should be added to the water the night before it is blessed. Then there is the problem with the toxicity of the chlorine ion.

Maybe the revenge of Montezuma is a better option.

It is still good advice: Do not drink the water.

Poor control of defecation upstream has been a problem for those downstream for millenia. It gets worse as the world **COLOR=“Green”]**population approaches 7-Billion. Actually, the whole hydro system is polluted–we are good at such things.

Are we looking for a new heaven and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness? The River of Life is not polluted, even though many have tried.

We probably cannot blame it on God.

Now what?

Peace,

James Least
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****And perhaps you should grow up… but still pray for forgiveness for what your Church did to the Central American people?
 
Andrew_Phillip said:
**I really think that this thread is ridiculous.

To suggest that an ancient ritual of the Church should be discontinued because of a contemporary, and transient water quality problem is in my opinion absurd.

However, the suggestion of some (or implication of same) that such an incident is indicative of the absence of Divine approval is quite offensive to the Eastern Orthodox Church.

Comparisons to pure “Lourdes Water” are a case of this “implication”.

The fact that the Lourdes “Spring” only produces approximately one fifth of the water sold as Holy at this site, should give those drinking it pause for thought.

Unfortunately, this seems not to be important to our Roman Catholic Bretheren when pointing out an isloated and very natural problem with water quality per se in Russia.

It should be obvious to all, that blessed water is fundamentally different to the Holy Eucharist - and suggestions like “who really has the keys” are totally inappropriate in this context.

Why was this issue even brought into this forum???**
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A person has the right to post on any forum that they like,if you do not like the forum then just do not answer,the person that ask the question has the right,and you are to judge
 
And if they have the right to post a negative and derogatory comment - I have the right and the responsibility to point this out and object.
 
I pray that everyone will be restored to health!

The first people I ever encountered drinking holy water were Latin Catholics. It’s not so uncommon as some might think. 🙂
 
Thank God for freedom of speech and of conscience. This blog is not the place for religious indignation. Only God is infallible, this includes His Word. “Bless them that curse you” is a lesson we all need to practice.

Someone has deemed the water in the Ganges River to be holy. I am not sure one would want to try to prove/disprove such a claim.
Peace,

James Least
 
Andrew_Phillip said:
**I really think that this thread is ridiculous.

To suggest that an ancient ritual of the Church should be discontinued because of a contemporary, and transient water quality problem is in my opinion absurd.

**However, the suggestion of some (or implication of same) that such an incident is indicative of the absence of Divine approval is quite offensive to the Eastern Orthodox Church.

Comparisons to pure “Lourdes Water” are a case of this “implication”.****

The fact that the Lourdes “Spring” only produces approximately one fifth of the water sold as Holy at this site, should give those drinking it pause for thought.

Unfortunately, this seems not to be important to our Roman Catholic Bretheren when pointing out an isloated and very natural problem with water quality per se in Russia.

It should be obvious to all, that blessed water is fundamentally different to the Holy Eucharist - and suggestions like “who really has the keys” are totally inappropriate in this context.

Why was this issue even brought into this forum???
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Try not to be so cynical. It never entered my mind that the Orthodox practice of drinking holy water is without Divine approval. But now that you’ve touched upon the question of the miraculous, are there any documented cases of physical miracles having occured through the consumption of holy water? If there aren’t, then we must seriously question whether this practice has divine sanction. For what it’s worth, I developed an irritating cold sore last winter shortly after I annointed my lips with holy water at my parish.

PAX :heaven:
 
Good_Fella said:
Try not to be so cynical. It never entered my mind that the Orthodox practice of drinking holy water is without Divine approval. But now that you’ve touched upon the question of the miraculous, are there any documented cases of physical miracles having occured through the consumption of holy water? If there aren’t, then we must seriously question whether this practice has divine sanction. For what it’s worth, I developed an irritating cold sore last winter shortly after I annointed my lips with holy water at my parish.

PAX :heaven:
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Reminds me of when I developed a nasty cold and then sinus infection after having my throat blessed on St. Blaise’s day! :eek: Oh well
 
Thanks for clarifying that. I hope the people that got sick ended up being okay.
 
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