12 latin chants every Catholic should know

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lyoncoeur:
My goodness!, Would you all {you know who you are!} start behaving like good Christians, be more charitable toward the OP, stop the unnecessary posturing and get back on topic.

The OP is just interested in Music…they even came back and said that they would be interested in the Musical traditions of the various rites of the Church… they are NOT trying to make any statement or suggestion that one rite or tradition is better than another.

“Listen” with your hearts people, for crying out loud! I was initially quite excited about this thread…hoping that I could find some sources to some good sacred music…Chant, polyphony, Eastern, Roman, Latin or English…but some rather self-righteous clowns in here ruined it with the petty bickering that was TOTALLY off topic…very sad.
Good point. We are all starting to sound like protestants bickering over denominations. We have to remember that the Catholic Church is One, and that no rite is superior to any other rite. The Catholic Church (latin, byzantine, Maronite, Melikite, Chaldean, Syrian, etc) is the body of Christ.
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
I apologize. Please read post 34. My mistake.
Apology accepted and I as for yours too as I think I was a bit hard in my response to you.
 
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Topher:
I agree with you about the latin because it is a tradition of the west and not of the east. However I would have to disagree with you about the rosary. At Fatima, Our Lady herself asked everyone to pray the rosary, not just latin Catholics. So we should all pray it.
That is if you believe in the apparition of Fatima. As it is a private revelation it is not binding upon Catholics.

Having said that, Fatima is one of the apparitions I believe in but I stand by saying that the rosary is a private western devotion and I will never agree that everyone should pray the rosary.

Especially eastern Catholics who have private devotions of their own that are just as good.

But if someone, anyone, wishes to pray the rosary, then good for them, I just do not happen to be one of them.
 
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Chatter163:
Sorry, but that is not how it will likely work. Sheer strength of numbers in this country and on this board will make it work the other way. When most posters in this forum say, “Catholic Church,” they will mean the Latin Rite Church. On the less frequent occasions when they wish to refer or otherwise include the Eastern Churches, they will specifically say so. The number of RCs here lends itself to that use; mature people recognize this and do not attempt to split semantical hairs. If we were in a Byzantine forum, I would expect the reverse to be true.
And you would be wrong. Because Byzantine Catholics are aware that the Catholic Church is much bigger than them.

It nothing more than a common courtesy to either specify when you are talking about the western Church only or to refrain from complaining when we point out your error of over generalizing and/or acting as though the western Church is the Church.
 
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ByzCath:
That is if you believe in the apparition of Fatima. As it is a private revelation it is not binding upon Catholics.

Having said that, Fatima is one of the apparitions I believe in but I stand by saying that the rosary is a private western devotion and I will never agree that everyone should pray the rosary.

Especially eastern Catholics who have private devotions of their own that are just as good.

But if someone, anyone, wishes to pray the rosary, then good for them, I just do not happen to be one of them.
If you believe in the apparitions then you believe that Mary asked EVERYONE to pray the rosary. Not just western Catholics. I will leave it at that since this is not the point of this thread.
 
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Topher:
If you believe in the apparitions then you believe that Mary asked EVERYONE to pray the rosary. Not just western Catholics. I will leave it at that since this is not the point of this thread.
And I think you lose sight of the request. Two things.

First, I will repeat what you said but with a different emphasis.

]If you believe in the apparitions then you believe that Mary ASKED everyone to pray the rosary.

Hmmm, asked, not commanded.

Second, I believe you need to look at the audience this message was given to. I do not believe that it was meant for everyone. I believe that it was given to the group it was meant for. The Western Church.

There are many devotions. Many that have the request that everyone practice them. There is no way that anyone can practice every single one.

And now I will leave it at that also.
 
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ByzCath:
And I think you lose sight of the request. Two things.

First, I will repeat what you said but with a different emphasis.

]If you believe in the apparitions then you believe that Mary ASKED everyone to pray the rosary.

Hmmm, asked, not commanded.

Second, I believe you need to look at the audience this message was given to. I do not believe that it was meant for everyone. I believe that it was given to the group it was meant for. The Western Church.

There are many devotions. Many that have the request that everyone practice them. There is no way that anyone can practice every single one.

And now I will leave it at that also.
I guess i will have to respond. Look, whether or not one believes that Mary appeared at Fatima does not change the objective fact that she did and thus, it does not change the objective fact that she has asked everyone to pray the rosary.
 
In all fairness, the actual article does specify the Roman Rite. I see nothing wrong with encouraging all Catholics to know of the devotions of the various Catholic Churches. Every Catholic should be made aware of the Divine Liturgy too, IMO, so we can begin to end this nonsense that pervades the Latin Church espescially of being “more Catholic than those Catholics”.

If we are going to call ourselves Catholic, universal, then it behooves us to aquaint ourselves with all Catholic traditions, or at least as many as feasible. Even saying “all Catholics should know these Gregorian chants” isn’t really a slap in the face of Easterns, nor is saying that similar chants and liturgies of the East should be known in the West. They really should be known, because they are Catholic, and we are all Catholic, and while we may prefer our particular settings, traditions, and devotions, they are not things to seperate us, but rather to point us towards God. The moment we treat them as things that make us different, rather than things that make us Catholic, we have begun to commit violence of Christ’s Church.

We must cherish our differences as we cherish each course and plate in a meal, not use them to draw lines to seperate ourselves. This goes for people on both sides. I understand that it can be hard for Easterns who constantly hear Catholic equated with Latin, but I believe the Christian thing to do when this comes up is not to shout it down, but rather offer up Eastern traditions alongside the Latin ones. It’s very unlikely that most Latin Catholics, who often fall into the innocent error of thinking Catholic = Latin (let’s face it, it DOES in most of the world, at least superficially), would respond hostily to an Eastern Catholic, in a thread such as this, simply offering up twelve Greek chants that every Catholic should know. In fact, most Latins I know would be overjoyed at such an offer. Remember how many Latins reacted with pleasant and warm curiousity about the Eastern chants at JPII’s funeral?

This would serve the dual purpose of reminding the Latins that the Church IS NOT just about them, and would also give them an immediate eye-opener to the beauty and breadth of the Catholic Church, all without confrontation.

That being said, I can’t seem to get the Eastern chants to work in that link. They won’t play, and only the MIDI files work 😦 Any suggestions?

God bless!
 
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Ghosty:
That being said, I can’t seem to get the Eastern chants to work in that link. They won’t play, and only the MIDI files work 😦 Any suggestions?
Hello all,
Melkite chants in Arabic can be found here. Too bad I can’t read Arabic…

God Bless.
Felix
 
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Ghosty:
That being said, I can’t seem to get the Eastern chants to work in that link. They won’t play, and only the MIDI files work 😦 Any suggestions?

God bless!
See if this is any better.

www.albertacantors.ca/tones.asp

These are the Tones that are sung every Sunday at Divine Liturgy.

hope you enjoy them…
 
Good post Ghosty. Exactly what I was thinking but too lazy to explain:).
 
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