12-year-old displaying Trump sign punched several times by woman, Colorado police say

[gam197]

12-year-old displaying Trump sign punched several times by woman, Colorado police say

“The suspect then attempted to take the banner but was unsuccessful.”

news.yahoo.com

Boulder police told several local news outlets that the boy was riding his bike while carrying a Trump sign when a woman saw the sign and confronted the boy, the Boulder Daily Camera reported.

The woman drove up to the boy and said, “you want something to look at?” reported The Denver Channel. The woman then punched the boy “in the back of the head and arms several times,” according to the TV station.

The alleged incident happened in Boulder Colorado.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Despicable behavior by typical liberal bullies.

I an glad they were caught on camera.

It is hard to watch how they picked on a 12 year old.

 

[Theo520]

Another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Though I could argue this was a blatant ‘hate crime’, normal consequences for assaulting a child should be sufficient.
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[ThinkingSapien]

I an glad they were caught on camera.

A publication with the word “camera” in the name reported the incident. But I don’t see that there is video or photographic evidence of the encounter.

Though I could argue this was a blatant ‘hate crime’,

As of yet, not in the legal sense of the phrase “hate crime.”

 

[Roselle]

The women sounds troubled.

 

[tomarin]

I’d say Walter Sobchak seems a more likely Trump booster.

 

[Theo520]

As of yet, not in the legal sense of the phrase “hate crime.”

a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds.

‘politics’ is or should be included under ‘other grounds’. This attack was driven by prejudice, not a personal conflict.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

‘politics’ is or should be included under ‘other grounds’.

For the time being, it’s not. Thus, crimes with political motivations are not hate crimes pursuant to the law.

Whether or not it should be may be hard to argue since there may not even be agreement on what is political. A person could hold the same position on an issue over there life and there may be times when that issue is viewed as political, and times when it is not.

The only pattern I’ve seen for something being “political” is that there is disagreement and that people are vocal about it. But this criteria would also include some people’s dispositions to sports teams.

 

[Feanor2]

Terrible. No one should be hitting kids.

 

[Theo520]

The only pattern I’ve seen for something being “political” is that there is disagreement and that people are vocal about it.

She wasn’t just “being vocal”, she repeatedly punched the 12 yr old.

I’m ok with equal application of said prejudice laws, and also apply it when the punters beat on fans of the opposing team.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

She wasn’t just “being vocal”, she repeatedly punched the 12 yr old.

Indeed. But I’m seeking a criteria for understanding your proposal for hate crime legislation including politics. “Politics” has fluid in its applicability. Something more well defined than a dictionary definition is needed for purposes of law.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Of course there is video of the encounter!!

Why do you think there is such outrage?

 

[Theo520]

“Politics” has fluid in its applicability.

Same with claims that someone was motivated by prejudice against minorities, LGBDTQ, etc. Only in a few limited cases has it been clear cut.

As I’ve said earlier, their application should be reserved for serious cases where local authorities are sweeping things under the rug or not prosecuting. Regular assault charges were probably sufficient for addressing the Granny in the OP.

 

[Theo520]

Indeed. But I’m seeking a criteria for understanding your proposal for hate crime legislation including politics. “Politics” has fluid in its applicability. Something more well defined than a dictionary definition is needed for purposes of law.

It seems that politics can fit under the ‘hate crime’ umbrella, in some jurisdictions

Delaware women accused of stealing MAGA hat indicted on robbery, hate crime charges

Two Delaware women accused of stealing a MAGA hat outside the Democratic National Convention were indicted Tuesday on charges including second-degree robbery and felony hate crimes.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ThinkingSapien]

It seems that politics can fit under the ‘ hate crime ’ umbrella, in some jurisdictions

The article did not call out why the charges were enhanced to hate crimes. I had to look at the Deleware code to see what within their hate crime laws. If I am interpreting this correctly, Deleware includes in its hate crime legislation any crime committed for the purpose of interfering with protected speech.

Delaware Code Title 11. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 1304. Hate crimes; class A misdemeanor G felony F felony E felony D felony C felony B felony A felony​

(a) Any person who commits, or attempts to commit, any crime as defined by the laws of this State, and who intentionally:

(1) Commits said crime for the purpose of interfering with the victim’s free exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege or immunity protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, or commits said crime because the victim has exercised or enjoyed said rights; or

(2) Selects the victim because of the victim’s race, religion, color, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin or ancestry, shall be guilty of a hate crime. For purposes of this section, the term “sexual orientation” means heterosexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, and the term “gender identity” means a gender-related identity, appearance, expression or behavior of a person, regardless of the person’s assigned sex at birth.

(b) Hate crimes shall be punished as follows:

(1) If the underlying offense is a violation or unclassified misdemeanor, the hate crime shall be a class A misdemeanor;

(2) If the underlying offense is a class A, B, or C misdemeanor, the hate crime shall be a class G felony;

(3) If the underlying offense is a class C, D, E, F, or G felony, the hate crime shall be 1 grade higher than the underlying offense;

(4) If the underlying offense is a class A or B felony, the hate crime shall be the same grade as the underlying offense, and the minimum sentence of imprisonment required for the underlying offense shall be doubled.

 

[JanR]

Strangers attacking kids! This was way out of line. The insanity has trickled down from the adult world to victimize our children. Nobody is safe.

 

[Pattylt]

On behalf of the rest of Colorado, I apologize for Boulder!

Radical politics is endemic to Boulder and has been for many years. People move there at their own risk. You also need a lot of money to live there…it’s different!

 

[Cathoholic]

Terrible of her to do this.

 

[gam197]

Terrible of her to do this.

They do not think so, even children are the target for them. Hopefully, they are checking on every woman who owns a moped in the area so this woman gets found.