14 year old Christian boy beheaded

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Again, look at my examples for sins of Christianity. Am i being being brash in saying all Christians are to blame for these hate groups and actions of a destructive gov’t? Yes

I call them morons can christians too do stupid things but complain and say they are extemeists and shouldnt be blamed yet have no problem saying an entire religion is to blame for the actions of a few like on these boards.
Christians sin just like eveyone else. My point is that Islam by it’s very nature is much more prone to develope violence as a result of it’s base line teachings. As a Nihilist you most likely believe everyone is an idiot who believes in anything. I’m not trying to change that but at least be sensible about Islam and look at it’s tendancy to push violence as holy. I am a serious Catholic who can live next door to serious Muslims or Nihilist without killing them. Most serious Catholics would do the same. Radical Islamist can’t say that for the most part.

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My son in law is a Lebanese Christian who has a lot of family still living in Lebanon. He says they have few if any Muslim friends and he does not like Muslims, especially the Palestinians who he blames for the civil war. He blames Hezbollah, a Shiite terrorist group, for the war with Israel. He thinks Israel over reacted but puts the blame squarely on Hezbollah for starting it.
 
They did bomb the Atlanta olympic park and several abortion clinics, though, using explosive packets filled with nails.

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Pro,

I’m sure if you look hard enough you can find a serial killer like Jefferey Dahmer who went to Sunday school. Then you can use that as ammo to attack Christians even though you know it’s irrelevant. Then you can believe that God wants you to twist the facts around to make Islam look credible in his name. Why are you citing information that represents obvious disordered behavior as if it represents the Caholic or Christian world?

-D
 
He gave us a beautiful shwarowski (sp?) Cross as a present for example because he believes that if God wanted one religion, then we’d have one religion…
When he says that he could be refering to the fact that when the Khalifa (or Imam Mahdi for the Syiah Muslims) is appointed as dictator to lead the Ummah, God will establish Islam as the one religion of the children of Adam. Every Kufar shall pay the tribute (ie Jizyah and Kharaj) or convert to Islam.
For example, one sheikh in sudan issued a fatwa allowing Muslim girls to marry Christian men and many Muslim girls did marry Christian men because of this fatwa which enraged other sheikhs and Muslims and which was accepted by other Muslims…this is the problem…no authority.
Hmm…Would you agree if I compare Islam to Protestantism as both these two faiths have the same problem of no authority?
 
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A 14 year old Christian boy in Iraq was decapitated by Islamic terrorists on October 21st. They asked for his ID which labeled him a Christian. They said he was a “dirty Christian sinner.” He bravely asserted his Christianity. They then beheaded him to cries of Allahu akbar. May the poor child rest in peace.

The response from the Islamic community? Nothing.

Islam has got to change and Muslims need to apologize for these kinds of atrocities.
The Crusades should never have been given up on. We should’ve wiped everyone of them off the face of the earth when we had the chance back in the day when we thought they were heretics and it was okay to kill heretics.
 
I believe a little bit more of the faith of the ‘true’ Christian Martyrs is in order on this thread. We don’t need to let this grave abuses done by Muslims in the name of Allah anger us into ‘worldly’ pursuits like revenge.

Just my 2 cents.

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The Crusades should never have been given up on. We should’ve wiped everyone of them off the face of the earth when we had the chance back in the day when we thought they were heretics and it was okay to kill heretics.
hehe,

Joe I understand feeling fed up by sick attrocities. It’s a nightmare to think about a 14 year old beheaded. Then again maybe the correct response would not include genocide. Don’t become what enrages you, just remember that Islamic people are created in the image and likeness of God.

-D
 
Pro,

I’m sure if you look hard enough you can find a serial killer like Jefferey Dahmer who went to Sunday school. Then you can use that as ammo to attack Christians even though you know it’s irrelevant. Then you can believe that God wants you to twist the facts around to make Islam look credible in his name. Why are you citing information that represents obvious disordered behavior as if it represents the Caholic or Christian world?

-D
Arnt you using the same ‘disordered’ behavior of a few to attack the entire Muslim faith?

Honestly, the reason why there is a good number of terrorists (by good i mean like less than 10%) is because of the economic conditions of the area. After the fall of the Ottoman empire and Cold War the area was severly crippled both economically and culturally.

Supporting Hussain(sp?) through money and armaments. Setting up puppet gov’t in the area and lets not forget the current war in iraq im sure has done its fair share to piss them off.

To Joey: You do realize that the Muslim armies were on the verge of annihilating the Christian armies right? And that Christians in general 9but esp. at that time) were morally much worse than the Muslims…So stick to your clan meetings plz 😉

As for me being a Nihilist, well its the closest theological thought to what i have. What i believe doesnt have a name 😦
I am all for Jesus and his teachings. I just dont like Christians cause they dont follow Jesus
 
By beheading this boy the Muslims tell us they are following Muhammeds teachings. I see that doesn’t offend you. Let’s say 10% of Muslims are terrorists. That is over 100,000,000. It is actually much higher and the majority quietly accept it. I have not seen any Muslim apologies or protests against this murder. Iraq may have pissed them off, but 911 pissed us off. Iraq would not have happened if they hadn’t attacked us. Muslims are NOT the victims.
 
By beheading this boy the Muslims tell us they are following Muhammeds teachings. I see that doesn’t offend you. Let’s say 10% of Muslims are terrorists. That is over 100,000,000. It is actually much higher and the majority quietly accept it. I have not seen any Muslim apologies or protests against this murder. Iraq may have pissed them off, but 911 pissed us off. Iraq would not have happened if they hadn’t attacked us. Muslims are NOT the victims.
Ever been to a Mosque or an Islamic seminar? They condemn quiet alot of things just with so much going on the official apology probably hasnt been heard. As for the 10% yes a great deal, but i wonder what percentage of hate groups internationally are christian based…at least I know the most prominant ones are (excluding Al-Qada).😃

Hey your right, im not here to apologize for Muslims. Im here to remind you silly christians that careful with what you say…as you too have mud on your face
 
As I said, when we start to stone women or behead children after Mass you can throw it in my face. I have been to mosques and arab countries. I heard nothing to condemn this terrorism. In fact the opposite. Visit www.memri.org and watch it for yourself.
 
Arnt you using the same ‘disordered’ behavior of a few to attack the entire Muslim faith?
The people who blast abortion clinics have serious issues. The radical Islamist type is a soldier for God. They were taught/brain washed to do a thing and they do it. It is a totaly different thing. People who blow up an abortion clinic are like the unibomber.
Honestly, the reason why there is a good number of terrorists (by good i mean like less than 10%) is because of the economic conditions of the area. After the fall of the Ottoman empire and Cold War the area was severly crippled both economically and culturally.
More like 15 to 20 percent (estimate) which is around 150,000,000 strong.
Supporting Hussain(sp?) through money and armaments. Setting up puppet gov’t in the area and lets not forget the current war in iraq im sure has done its fair share to piss them off.
I agree that we have done some things to encourage the problem. But in the end they would kill us anyway because we are subhuman Kafir’s who are considered cattle. That issue can’t come from us or our errors. It comes from the Koran.
As for me being a Nihilist, well its the closest theological thought to what i have. What i believe doesnt have a name 😦
I am all for Jesus and his teachings. I just dont like Christians cause they dont follow Jesus
Well that is good news. I was in a similar state of disgust towards all of us at one point. We must remember that God is not the mistakes of men. If you are for Jesus then you should be for his Church. It’s very easy to connect God to mans errors and evils. Don’t blame him or his Church for our mistakes, it will only drive you away from him.

-D
 
The people who blast abortion clinics have serious issues. The radical Islamist type is a soldier for God. They were taught/brain washed to do a thing and they do it. It is a totaly different thing. People who blow up an abortion clinic are like the unibomber.

More like 15 to 20 percent (estimate) which is around 150,000,000 strong.

I agree that we have done some things to encourage the problem. But in the end they would kill us anyway because we are subhuman Kafir’s who are considered cattle. That issue can’t come from us or our errors. It comes from the Koran.

Well that is good news. I was in a similar state of disgust towards all of us at one point. We must remember that God is not the mistakes of men. If you are for Jesus then you should be for his Church. It’s very easy to connect God to mans errors and evils. Don’t blame him or his Church for our mistakes, it will only drive you away from him.

-D
i. Im just saying that the actions of the minority can be spread across the majority and in neither case is it fair.
ii. I stand corrected, and sadly itll get bigger in my opinion but it wont be cause of the teachings of the Qur’an (will explain further down)
iii. There was a time when the majority of Muslims loved the West. It isnt so much the teachings of their books that corrupted this but rather the death throws of tyrants whom attempt to politize themselves in an attempt to be treated as martyrs.
iv. Like the Bible, the Qur’an can be interpreted in many different ways for either very good causes and moral codes or very bad ones.
The problem with lumping them all in together is that you are polarizing the issue. Its basically if you renounce your religions youll never be accepted vibe (esp on the forums). This can esp. painful for muslims whom have lived a peaceful life and are westerners themselves. Im sure theyd feel betrayed because religiously they be muslims, they are of American/Canadian/European citizenship. By denying them and condemning them on the basis of what they are as opposed to who they are will only breed more terrorists as they forced to their side lest they be outcasts from both societies

Western culture does discriminate nowadays. Alot of my gfs family was fired soon after 9/11 their only complaint was that they were Muslim. (This is in Canada)

By attacking them on all fronts all we are doing is feeding the extremists lies and it becomes a self-fulling prophesy.

v. Never want to call myself a Christian 😛 I think I should clarify, as a guy with an interesting idea I like Jesus and his message. That si not to say I believe him the son of God or the messiah. I hold him in high esteem for his good ideas as i do other ppl; Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Buddha, Kant, Muhammed (the Qur’an is very beautiful grammatically) etc.

From what I can see, organized religion is not about theology, or even what your God(s)/prophet/messiah said what you should do, rather, its about how your rituals and idiology makes you better spiritually than someone else.
 
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A 14 year old Christian boy in Iraq was decapitated by Islamic terrorists on October 21st. They asked for his ID which labeled him a Christian. They said he was a “dirty Christian sinner.” He bravely asserted his Christianity. They then beheaded him to cries of Allahu akbar. May the poor child rest in peace.

The response from the Islamic community? Nothing.

Islam has got to change and Muslims need to apologize for these kinds of atrocities.
Why? When 9/11 happened a whole bunch of Arabs (not all were even Muslims) were attacked and killed and continue to be here in America, there was little or no community reaction to that. We force our way into a Muslim country for purely political reasons where we kill hundreds of Muslims daily, innocent ones. As an JROTC cadet I get to talk to many soldiers there and coming back and they always mention how the news forgets to mention all the innocent people that we happen to kill daily without cause with glossy eyes while thinking over their memories. I don’t hear us making apologies to them for their much higher death tolls. Before Islam needs to change America does for all it’s atrocities of a much higher scale it does in the region. I also question why the whole faith needs to change when you even said it was an extrmist/terrorist group. They dont even represent to actual beleifs of the faith. The hate and indifference between our groups is what needs to change, we need to find peace, love, and forgiveness.
 
I have said it before and shall say it again.
Islam is a religion of violence and terror and their god is not our God.
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So is Christianity a faith of violence these days, so if that means christians don’t follow the God of Christianity, then what god do Christians follow then?
 
So is Christianity a faith of violence these days, so if that means christians don’t follow the God of Christianity, then what god do Christians follow then?
It’s a good thing that all of the violence and hatred in the world bothers you. We all live in a broken state of original sin. For all of human history men have commited one attrocity after the next. The only difference now is that we can see it on TV.

I see the United States military is at war, yet I do not see organized Christians killing people. The US military has people from every religion along with atheist and the like. Do you mean to say the US military when you say Christians are killing people? If not, what Christians are killing people?

-D
 
It’s a good thing that all of the violence and hatred in the world bothers you. We all live in a broken state of original sin. For all of human history men have commited one attrocity after the next. The only difference now is that we can see it on TV.

I see the United States military is at war, yet I do not see organized Christians killing people. The US military has people from every religion along with atheist and the like. Do you mean to say the US military when you say Christians are killing people? If not, what Christians are killing people?

-D
I don’t necessarily mean the army. Many Muslims refused to fight and Christians could too, but not my point. Christians left and right in the civilian world are support war with Muslims in general, not “terror”, they say kill the Muslims, attack, fight, resist the invasion, physical verbal and so on aggression against Muslims. Blood thirsty and angry.
Plus, no Muslim army is at war or attacked the U.S. ever… so… Yes we are fighting a country and the terrorists/extremeists there, but they don’t represent Islam any more than US army Christians.
 
Never want to call myself a Christian 😛 I think I should clarify, as a guy with an interesting idea I like Jesus and his message. That si not to say I believe him the son of God or the messiah. I hold him in high esteem for his good ideas as i do other ppl; Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Buddha, Kant, Muhammed (the Qur’an is very beautiful grammatically) etc.

From what I can see, organized religion is not about theology, or even what your God(s)/prophet/messiah said what you should do, rather, its about how your rituals and idiology makes you better spiritually than someone else.
Your right to admire the ideas of Christ. His teachings are perfect and without ego, he has caused more change then any other person in history. I for one can’t see the logic in saying the universe just up and created it’s self. If you imagine history without Christ the world would be a much darker place right now.

-D
 
It’s a good thing that all of the violence and hatred in the world bothers you. We all live in a broken state of original sin. For all of human history men have commited one attrocity after the next. The only difference now is that we can see it on TV.

I see the United States military is at war, yet I do not see organized Christians killing people. The US military has people from every religion along with atheist and the like. Do you mean to say the US military when you say Christians are killing people? If not, what Christians are killing people?

-D
Actually, there is one (major anyways) religion that is innocent of unnecessary bloodshed and is the only one to have a happy working theocracy.

Ill give you a hint, it isnt Christianity or Islam.
 
Somebody accuses your father of wrong doing and teaching the wrong things to the children, and you turn around and accuse him of doing wrong.

What’s the problem above?

1 - You reject the accusation even if its true by your counter.
2 - You counter the accusation with a non-parallel accusation.

People are acknowledging that ISLAM…note ISLAM is EVIL. Whether muslims are ignorant enough to defray from the evil teachings of islam to kill innocent souls is NOT our contention. Similarly, don’t accuse the failures of some ‘christians’ who fail to do good as following the teachings of christianity, because that is a LIE.
  • Christians don’t do evil because Christ NEVER taught it.
  • Muslims don’t do evil because they FAILED Islam.
If you don’t understand the above, there’s a problem with you.

For people who read the christian scripture, it should now be clear why even the archangel dared not rebuke Satan. ONLY the perfect being can accuse and not get accused in return. Cos, the evil ones will always accuse you back to deflect your factual accusations. Undermining your cause, pushing the blame and unrighteously downgrading you to their level.

If Righteousness cannot destroy evil, humanity has no hope.
 
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