18 year old son stole from friends- now what?

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–I have not neglected him in favor of the others although I will admit I find him more difficult to relate to.
–He will take everything from you and it is never enough. Over all he received more attention than any of his four siblings.
–There is very little in his upbringing to easily explain this.
Consider very seriously that he may have a personality disorder. It doesn’t mean he is intellectually incapable of moral behavior, but you ought to take it into your mind that you may have the sort of person as a son that if his intellect does not come down on the side of honest personal accomplishment, morality, social compliance, and forging a relationship with others in which he values a sense that he has integrity and can be trusted, there is precious little else in his psychological make-up that will advocate in that direction.

You may also have an honest-to-goodness sociopath on your hands. If you do, you may as well try to raise a shark as if he were a dolphin and then be surprised when he still turns out to be a shark*. You and I know that the best animal trainer in the world cannot make up for that kind of difference. Be very careful, and do get professional advice about how to handle him.

*This is only an analogy to make the point that some people, if raised in a way that is totally suitable for everyone else, can be fully expected to respond in a totally different way. I am not saying that your son is not fully a human being, nor that he is criminally insane. I am saying that you may be in over your head and that you will almost certainly not get the desired results in family life by “treating him the same as everyone else”. Be aware of what you might be dealing with, and how to proceed. I don’t just mean getting counseling. I mean finding someone who specializes in dealing with sociopathic personalities. If your son is not a sociopath, they will also know a) how to tell the difference and b) what the psychological make-up he does have will determine in terms of the kind of cause-and-effect you can expect from him that is different than his siblings.
 
“Our son will be 19 this summer. He has completed his first year of college, with a lot of help from us as he lacks motivation and dedication although he understands the monetary value of a college degree for his future. We are paying for college. We provide him with a car, a tank of gas each week, and some lunch money. He is responsible for buying his books, clothes, and entertainment, and is supposed to be paying us for part of his iPhone. He is also supposed to be saving for a new car as his is 14 years old and will fail inspection in a year. This was our arrangement with all of our other children although they had scholarships and costs have more than doubled since they graduated, in 2005, 2006, and 2008.”

Does he have a major or a job that he is passionate about and that has some logical connection to a future career, because unless he does, a BA will do him little good.

You say “supposed to.” Is he doing this or not?

I think you should be thinking about his particular gifts and interests and a future career, rather than just about college, as it doesn’t sound like he’s exactly “college material”.

I worry that you may be overly negative about him because your personalities and gifts are just so different. Is there more to him than you describe, or is he just a nasty piece of work?

“I am looking for advice for my husband. He has a good relationship with this child, has put more time into him, his sports teams and helping with his schoolwork , than with any of our other children. Our older boys have often resented this as they did not get this kind of attention from their father. Please, if anyone has been through a similar situation with a child who is legally an adult, in your home and receiving considerable financial support from you but has completely rejected your values and is creating problems in a somewhat closed circles of friends and acquaintances I would welcome your advice.”

I think you shouldn’t feel bad about spending more time and effort on a high-need child, as long as you are moving in the right direction with him and the other children aren’t neglected. From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs. It’s a lousy way to run a country, but it’s the right way to run a family.

I don’t have children that age, but we have been through something similar in our family circle with a young relative who did 7 years of undergraduate, had a variety of different problems (some the relative’s fault, some not), has never completed a degree, and will probably never be able to support herself. This was a very extreme case, but what I’ve learned from that is that it is not always possible to drag a child over the finish line.

“He will obviously pay the money back and will issue several apologies in writing to the parties involved. We are revoking or limiting car and cell phone privileges, but it is the daily living with someone who rejects, in a quiet yet definitive way, everything that you value in life that is getting to me. We feel strongly that we are responsible to see that he gets through school, but we cannot afford to send him away to school, and if we could he would probably fail out. He is simply obsessed with jealousy and materialism.”

You are not responsible to see that he gets through college. You can’t take his tests for him, you shouldn’t write his papers for him, etc.

Can you do family counseling with him and your husband? Also, can you work with a counselor to come up with reasonable house rules? You are not obligated to feed and house a legal adult no matter what he does. Does he understand where your limits are? Do you understand what your limits are?
 
…View it as your son is hurting. He is hurting so much he does things to deal with the pain. He feels excluded from your attention and has to gain it somehow. Other family members are more important than he is and he knows that, he can see that. But he needs love too from you. - Now what. You can start loving this son as much as the others and try and understand he is hurting. He can do the things the others can’t but to him he can’t do them because he knows or he believes you don’t love him. He can probably feel that or it feels like that to him. He isn’t the only one to need to learn from the incident. I hope you can learn how to love him as much as the other children. It not enough to say his father loves him. He needs you too.

God bless and
peace
xxx
Where did you get the idea that this young man feels that he is hurting from lack of attention from his parents? I don’t see how to draw that as a conclusion, from the small collection of facts supplied by his mother. I mean that what he did does not seem typical of the acting out of a young person trying to get parental attention.

I would be very careful about projecting too much “hurt” onto this young person. I don’t think these parents have failed in loving this child as a unique human being. I think there has been “something” in the way of forging a relationship, not matter what they try…hence why, if anything, they’ve tried harder with him than with the others. The reason may be that this young man may not be capable of caring about anyone except himself. If he is the kind that wants as much for himself as possible while doing the least on his own behalf as possible, all while doing essentially nothing that does not benefit himself in some way, the very last thing that will help him is pity. Yet pity might be something he would find very useful in terms of exploiting the situation towards his own desired ends.

There are times when “love”, tough or not, can make a situation worse, if applied indiscriminately. Because the theft was not really out of character, I’d see it as a very serious indication that this son may not have the kind of immaturity and self-centeredness that he will grow out of by continuing on under a firm hand in a loving home. He’s giving indications that he may be someone who will act outside the normal boundaries, and I would take that possibility very seriously. I’d not go so far as to say for sure that the worst is definitely the case, but he sounds too much like the kind who spends several years eating up naïve therapists and concerned relatives and spitting them out afterwards to ignore the possibility.

What worries me most is that this theft does not necessarily seem out of character for someone with the other character traits she described. The whole thing makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. That’s not a unfailing sign, but I tend not to ignore it.
 
Reread the last post you made

perhaps the 18 year old is trying hard to gain your attention in some way because he may be feeling he isn’t achieving that. By having a go at your morals may be his way of succeeding. Perhaps he really does need quality time with you as well as his father and that security he is as well valued as the other ‘children’ though he isn’t a child. But he may well have felt sidelined by the needs of the other children and unconciously do anything to grab your attention. He is hurting inside though may not tell you as such. This is his way of telling you.

It almost a pity that the lady didn’t go to the police because that way he would get help perhaps or don’t it work like that in USA? If she didn’t press any charges then he wouldn’t get a criminal record but seeing the police and having to do whatever they can ask at that level may have woken him up. Though if he is doing - because he is really hurting inside then he is more than awake because he is doing so as his way of saying he is hurting. It is more, are you awake to his pain. The police might have asked for counselling to work out his actions.

View it as your son is hurting. He is hurting so much he does things to deal with the pain. He feels excluded from your attention and has to gain it somehow. Other family members are more important than he is and he knows that, he can see that. But he needs love too from you. - Now what. You can start loving this son as much as the others and try and understand he is hurting. He can do the things the others can’t but to him he can’t do them because he knows or he believes you don’t love him. He can probably feel that or it feels like that to him. He isn’t the only one to need to learn from the incident. I hope you can learn how to love him as much as the other children. It not enough to say his father loves him. He needs you too.

God bless and
peace
xxx
I am not sure how you concluded all of that from the OP either.

Counseling is going to be your son’s only option. The problem is that he is 18, and nobody is going to be able to make him go. Instead of kicking him out, though, you could make the counseling a requirement for living at your house. That’s not tough love as everyone has requirements for living where they are, be it from parents, spouses, neighbors, the police, or the condo board. That’s where I would start.
 
I also don’t see how anyone can blame this man’s behavior on not having a good enough relationship with his mother. Come on - he’s an adult. Every child has to deal with imperfect parents and life’s disappointments, but very few grow up to be theives. Ultimately at this point he is responsible for his choices and behavior.
 
I am not sure how you concluded all of that from the OP either.

Counseling is going to be your son’s only option. The problem is that he is 18, and nobody is going to be able to make him go. Instead of kicking him out, though, you could make the counseling a requirement for living at your house. That’s not tough love as everyone has requirements for living where they are, be it from parents, spouses, neighbors, the police, or the condo board. That’s where I would start.
The caveat is that what this young man will accept and what he needs may be two different things. That is true no matter what his issues are. If he resents being told that it is disgusting to steal from your host when you’re a houseguest, I’m not sure what therapist will talk him out of that! If his behavior doesn’t worry him, then counseling may be a waste of time and money or worse.

It is worth asking the available counseling services what their experiences concerning people in this age group with this kind of a history. This young man may require a very savvy counselor in order to see improvement. It is well worth looking for someone who might fit that bill, rather than just finding a counselor who is more used to handling more straight-forward therapeutic challenges.
 
I am not sure how you concluded all of that from the OP either.

Counseling is going to be your son’s only option. The problem is that he is 18, and nobody is going to be able to make him go. Instead of kicking him out, though, you could make the counseling a requirement for living at your house. That’s not tough love as everyone has requirements for living where they are, be it from parents, spouses, neighbors, the police, or the condo board. That’s where I would start.
We are going to make that a condition of living at home. Counseling does seem to be the one thing that everyone here agrees upon. I appreciate the replies.
This behavior is both out of character and not. I know that seems contradictory, but he is well thought of by his friends, their parents, and his teachers. He is a good worker, in a non academic sense. He says he wants to go to college, we are not making him. We encouraged him to take up a trade but nothing interested him.
I am the only one who realizes the degree to which he uses other people to fill his time when he is bored without much regard for them otherwise,because I have observed his behavior over the past few years.
 
We are going to make that a condition of living at home. Counseling does seem to be the one thing that everyone here agrees upon. I appreciate the replies.
This behavior is both out of character and not. I know that seems contradictory, but he is well thought of by his friends, their parents, and his teachers. He is a good worker, in a non academic sense. He says he wants to go to college, we are not making him. We encouraged him to take up a trade but nothing interested him.
I am the only one who realizes the degree to which he uses other people to fill his time when he is bored without much regard for them otherwise,because I have observed his behavior over the past few years.
That is good to hear…that is, that perhaps he is suffering from immaturity instead of a more basic and ongoing lack of empathy. (Not that sociopaths aren’t likeable; they are often described as "charming’ people who, in retrospect, are more interested in attracting followers than in being friends. They aren’t all jailbirds or failures with regards to academic accomplishment, either, not by any means. They are often very socially adept, actually, just in a self-serving way.)

The most important person to get into counseling with regards to your son is you, because I think you are the most motivated to make use of what is learned in counseling and the most likely to keep your son’s best interests instead of short-term desires in mind. You can be depended upon to be truthful and open with the therapist, and with your Asperger’s you can probably use the reassurance about what is going on instead of being vulnerable to even the natural ways in which a young person will try to manipulate a situation into his own favor. So as important it may be to get him a professional interpersonal guide and confidant, I’d put most of the investment into getting that for you, based on the chance of the greatest returns for everyone involved.
 
That is good to hear…that is, that perhaps he is suffering from immaturity instead of a more basic and ongoing lack of empathy. (Not that sociopaths aren’t likeable; they are often described as "charming’ people who, in retrospect, are more interested in attracting followers than in being friends. They aren’t all jailbirds or failures with regards to academic accomplishment, either, not by any means. They are often very socially adept, actually, just in a self-serving way.)

The most important person to get into counseling with regards to your son is you, because I think you are the most motivated to make use of what is learned in counseling and the most likely to keep your son’s best interests instead of short-term desires in mind. You can be depended upon to be truthful and open with the therapist, and with your Asperger’s you can probably use the reassurance about what is going on instead of being vulnerable to even the natural ways in which a young person will try to manipulate a situation into his own favor. So as important it may be to get him a professional interpersonal guide and confidant, I’d put most of the investment into getting that for you, based on the chance of the greatest returns for everyone involved.
That makes a lot of sense.

It is alarming as to how much immaturity mimics mental illness symptoms. I guess it is a sort of immaturity one never comes out of?
 
That makes a lot of sense.

It is alarming as to how much immaturity mimics mental illness symptoms. I guess it is a sort of immaturity one never comes out of?
The other problem, too, is that there is a degree to which our brains get unwired and rewired during the final burst of brain development during adolescence, and some people go through that kind of sideways, and don’t come out of it until they’re 25 or so. IOW, adolescence is really wonderful in some ways and really awful in some ways, it can really do a number on the kinds of decisions a person is liable to make, and so sometimes the wonderful and awful emerge from the same person. Then there are the people who come out with a couple of wires not attached or not attached in a good way.

I think Mom can be depended on to make the most of therapy, though, if she is lucky enough to get a wise one. She is also the most likely to switch therapists for the right reason. I’d put my money on keeping her grounded and mentally healthy as the best investment for the whole family.
 
Jon, may I ask how many children you have raised? I have three adult children. We simply do not want to not give him the excuse that we did not pay for school “because he was adopted”. It does complicate things considerably. He really hasn’t done anything seriously wrong before, and I am not particularly naive. Obviously his disregard for our values is beginning to have consequences and it is very probable that this is going to continue to be a problem. It is true that if we coddle and nurse him through a degree he will probably fail in the end, but if we do not he certainly will.

We do have a 26 year old son who lives at home. He has a post graduate degree and works, but prefers to live at home and pays rent. The other two moved out when they finished their education, one has lived abroad as an English teacher since he was 22, despite having Aspergers syndrome and a hereditary neuromuscular disorder. He was very hard to live with, is a heavy drinker, but was a gifted student. I say all this to explain that we have been through a variety of issues. Complete disregard for all of our values has not been one of them.

I do appreciate all advice, but putting all his clothes on the curb is not a good direction for us to take at this time, tempting as it is. My husband’s mother did that to him when we got engaged because she disapproved, we were 19. I had left home at 17 on college scholarships, and we were highly functional so it all worked out. This kid still needs a lot of help and I do not know that I could deal with the guilt if we abandoned him.
I have three kids of my own, but I hardly see how that matters. Are family therapists required to have adult children? No and certainly lay people on a public forum are not.

I have an immediate family member with Borderline Personality Disorder. It has caused tremendous pain. You describe your son as one who takes and takes emotionally. Therapists call this HOOVERING like the vacuum. I highly suggest you look into personality disorders as a possibility with a highly skilled therapist as people with personality disorders are generally expert liars and master manipulators. They are also unable to take personal responsibility.

You have to set up firm boundaries with these people.

I do not recommend throwing his stuff on the curb, what I recommend is firm boundaries.

If you pay his school, he goes, he registers, he handles it like an adult. If he doesn’t, you don’t pay, if he doesn’t go to school, he pays rent, if he doesn’t he gets evicted. That is life. That his showing him you will support him but he has to be responsible for his part.

I would also say giving the money back with a note is hardly appropriate. He should have been arrested! He needs to make restitution. Maybe mow their lawn for a month or community service if some kind.

Don’t let him manipulate you. Support him, but put the ball in his court otherwise he will just take and take and become a monster.

From experience…

Jon

PS I will pray for you and your family.
 
…Support him, but put the ball in his court otherwise he will just take and take and become a monster…
To clarify: By “support”, you mean to support his regular and ongoing, even if occasionally imperfect, efforts to make steady and measurable progress to become an adult who provides for himself and his own nuclear family materially and who lives as a reliable member of a social circle in which all members give and take in a more or less equal amount so as to mutually enjoy the benefits of human companionship. That’s the minimum…that is, that the parents are aiming him to be no less than decent, and will “support” him only insofar as their support will bring him closer to that goal, and not farther from it.

Just an aside: I don’t believe for a moment that all the Hoovers out there have an issue that needs treatment. Sometimes, which I think is implied by your answer, there is simply an accumulation of bad habits instead of an accumulation of good ones, and motivation to change from bad habits to good is really all that is needed.
 
To clarify: By “support”, you mean to support his regular and ongoing, even if occasionally imperfect, efforts to make steady and measurable progress to become an adult who provides for himself and his own nuclear family materially and who lives as a reliable member of a social circle in which all members give and take in a more or less equal amount so as to mutually enjoy the benefits of human companionship. That’s the minimum…that is, that the parents are aiming him to be no less than decent, and will “support” him only insofar as their support will bring him closer to that goal, and not farther from it.
Yes!

I see no reason why that can’t include paying for his school if he is actively participating.

It sounds like though he doesn’t want to work, go to school, or do anything that’s not “fun”.

…and it seems he doesn’t have to which is the problem.
 
I have three kids of my own, but I hardly see how that matters. Are family therapists required to have adult children? No and certainly lay people on a public forum are not.

I have an immediate family member with Borderline Personality Disorder. It has caused tremendous pain. You describe your son as one who takes and takes emotionally. Therapists call this HOOVERING like the vacuum. I highly suggest you look into personality disorders as a possibility with a highly skilled therapist as people with personality disorders are generally expert liars and master manipulators. They are also unable to take personal responsibility.

You have to set up firm boundaries with these people.

I do not recommend throwing his stuff on the curb, what I recommend is firm boundaries.

If you pay his school, he goes, he registers, he handles it like an adult. If he doesn’t, you don’t pay, if he doesn’t go to school, he pays rent, if he doesn’t he gets evicted. That is life. That his showing him you will support him but he has to be responsible for his part.

I would also say giving the money back with a note is hardly appropriate. He should have been arrested! He needs to make restitution. Maybe mow their lawn for a month or community service if some kind.

Don’t let him manipulate you. Support him, but put the ball in his court otherwise he will just take and take and become a monster.

From experience…

Jon

PS I will pray for you and your family.
BTW, do you not find it very disconcerting that this man texted someone to brag about using his status as a houseguest to achieve a theft and to denigrate his host as having been deserving of victimization? For some reason this excuse would bother me far less if it turned out that someone found out that this kid suddenly had $85 that can’t be accounted for and the young man rationalized his crime because he was found out. That’s what disturbs me the most about this, that and his mother’s observation that while he is liked he is the kind that takes and takes.
 
BTW, do you not find it very disconcerting that this man texted someone to brag about using his status as a houseguest to achieve a theft and to denigrate his host as having been deserving of victimization? That’s what disturbs me the most about this. For some reason this excuse would bother me far less if it turned out that someone found out that this kid suddenly had $85 that can’t be accounted for and the young man rationalized his crime because he was found out.
Yes, it speaks to the much deeper problem. He stole not for the money but to hurt and punish someone.

Hopefully prayer and counseling can turn it around, but especially in light of my own experience I have immense pain in my heart for this kid and family.
 
The post was not public, it was a private message to the son of the family, his close (former?) friend, justifying his action by villifying the family. It is really unfathomable. they are one of the few families in our social circle who are dramatically better off than we are financially. He has always been jealous of things like their country club membership, etc. For the most part their lifestyle does not differ from the rest of us.

He has always worked and gone to school, I do not know how I managed to give the impression that he does not. He did not have any need for the money, it was strictly an act of meanness. Even given his impulsiveness and thoughtlessness, I never saw this coming. As I said, his friends’ parents have always liked him.

Jon, I think the idea of offering more than a simple repayment is an excellent one, and he should make the gesture. If I were them I would not want him around the property however.
 
Jon, I think the idea of offering more than a simple repayment is an excellent one, and he should make the gesture. If I were them I would not want him around the property however.
Yeah, I can see that. I am sure there is a soup kitchen that needs some pots cleaned, or a homeless shelter that needs some toilets scrubbed!

It’s one thing to go to school because you have to ( you gave the impression he wouldn’t go unless you made him) and pursuing a career by going to college/ trade school whatever it takes to meet the goal.

There is also a difference between working for play money and working to live.

So, hopefully a counselor can help you guys work through it and set up, proper expectations and boundaries.
 
The post was not public, it was a private message to the son of the family, his close (former?) friend, justifying his action by villifying the family. It is really unfathomable. they are one of the few families in our social circle who are dramatically better off than we are financially. He has always been jealous of things like their country club membership, etc. For the most part their lifestyle does not differ from the rest of us.

He has always worked and gone to school, I do not know how I managed to give the impression that he does not. He did not have any need for the money, it was strictly an act of meanness. Even given his impulsiveness and thoughtlessness, I never saw this coming. As I said, his friends’ parents have always liked him.

Jon, I think the idea of offering more than a simple repayment is an excellent one, and he should make the gesture. If I were them I would not want him around the property however.
That is the worrisome thing–and why I am sure you are worried about him!–that is, why does someone who does not need money steal from someone who so obviously trusted him? More to the point, why is this information he would volunteer: that is, that he committed this act of his own volition, not an act of greed, but an act of cruelty or an expression of envy and resentment against someone who has not only not harmed him, but has offered him hospitality? After all, this is not a family who has rejected him, right? This is a family that has shown him acceptance, and not out of familial necessity.

Is it possible that he thought this friend was on the outs with his own parents? That is, could your son have mistakenly thought his friend (their son) would applaud his action? I mean, at least taking sides in what he mistakenly thought was a civil war would put some kind of fathomable human reason onto this decision. Or is he on the outs with the friend, and did this in order to both hurt the friend and break ties with his friend and with the family? It is worth asking his friend about this. (I would not trust your son’s characterization of any of this any farther than I could throw a piano. He is in hot water, and that alone is enough to make him want to say whatever will get you to lay off, even if he’s very normal.)

You can see how this is a different act if it is done either as a misplaced act of loyalty or a retribution against someone who broke a bond of affection with him, rather than if it were merely an act showing that years of contact with this family and enjoyment of their hospitality has given him no connection with them, save envy and resentment? It is one thing to respond hurt-for-hurt when you’re in a tiff with someone you love, and quite another to have spent so much time with a family and feel nothing for them at all, save negative emotions. Combine that with “a skillful liar, materialistic, uncommunicative, and prone to jealousy”, and the picture becomes rather alarming.

The reason this is important for you to sort out is because what he feels for this family, a family with normal human faults who have more than he has but otherwise has done little else to welcome him and be good to him could be very similar to what he feels for you, who have treated him, an adopted son, as a full member of the family, particularly as he comes to realize more and more that you don’t consider your life savings to already be his inheritance for the taking.

You, too, have a lot more than he has. You, too, the family who sees itself as “absolute honesty and openess, anti- materialism, generosity, and intellectual pursuits were all taken for granted”’ could be deemed instead to be one who “thinks they’re better than everyone else.” The theft from your friends totally blindsided you; be careful that you’re not blindsided again.

My “consequence” for him would not be to make him scrub toilets at a soup kitchen. My consequence would be that I wouldn’t let him alone with my purse, or anyone else’s. I’d certainly be careful about what passwords he has access to, I know that.
 
I must be doing a horrible job here of explaining myself. I have had as close a relationship as possible with this child and am only shutting down on him now. I have not neglected him in favor of the others although I will admit I find him more difficult to relate to. We go out to dinner together, I have attended all his games over the years, tried to encourage him in interests and hobbies, homeschooled him through eighth grade, even taught him to sew. He will take everything from you and it is never enough. Over all he received more attention than any of his four siblings. There is very little in his upbringing to easily explain this.
Then I am sorry you are comparing him as thus. He will feel that from you and as an 18 year old he actually sounds a normal healthy 18 year old boy/young adult who is trying hard to find his own way. I think that somehow it is yourself that has to do the changing first. He cannot change because he doesn’t know anything else as he is still very much learning. He is hurting and resenting and I haven’t all the answers at all but I bet he is one very unhappy young adult actually there is everything in his upbringing to explain this as he is being a typical young adult finding his way in the world. What he can do and what he can’t do. Testing boundaries etc. He is one very normal young man who is hurting as teens hurt. As growing up hurts. Rebelling is a natural part of life. He really is one normal young man and $80 theft might feel big to you but in reality of the world bigger picture of what happens out there. He is indeed one very normal young man in the middle of growing pains and they can really hurt!
 
Then I am sorry you are comparing him as thus. He will feel that from you and as an 18 year old he actually sounds a normal healthy 18 year old boy/young adult who is trying hard to find his own way. I think that somehow it is yourself that has to do the changing first. He cannot change because he doesn’t know anything else as he is still very much learning. He is hurting and resenting and I haven’t all the answers at all but I bet he is one very unhappy young adult actually there is everything in his upbringing to explain this as he is being a typical young adult finding his way in the world. What he can do and what he can’t do. Testing boundaries etc. He is one very normal young man who is hurting as teens hurt. As growing up hurts. Rebelling is a natural part of life. He really is one normal young man and $80 theft might feel big to you but in reality of the world bigger picture of what happens out there. He is indeed one very normal young man in the middle of growing pains and they can really hurt!
No, he does NOT “sound like a normal healthy 18 year old boy/young adult who is trying hard to find his own way.” No, he doesn’t sound like that at all. He also doesn’t sound as if “he doesn’t know anything else”…where would he have learned that theft from your host is normal, let alone calling up the victim’s son to brag about it and put down their father? I also don’t see any evidence that he’s expressing emotional pain. Where is the evidence of emotional pain, the fact that he’s envious? Oh, goodness, this is the attitude that is asking to be repeatedly victimized by a bully or made into a well-meaning co-dependent. Excusing acts that are seriously sinful is never the loving response to a sinner. The most loving response to a sinner is the call to true conversion of heart. This is true whether or not the sinner directly experiences the pain of his own sins. What concerns me the most, to be honest, is that this particular sinner does not seem the least bit pained by what he has done. He seems to be proud of it.

Impulsive acts of self-indulgence, self-assertion, sexual adventure or risk-taking are one thing. That is bad enough–not normal, which is to say not within any kind of healthy standard range of behaviors, but not atypical. Acts of dishonesty, betrayal, and especially acts of spite or cruelty, however, are not by any means what one expects of someone “testing boundaries”. That’s the kind of thing that happens when someone is not forming healthy attachments with other human beings. This is especially true if these acts are aimed at a person who is well-known to the offender, rather than acts aimed at a what is rationalized to be a nameless and emotional-free “institution”.

We should never confuse that which is average or which has become typical with that which is normative. Even if acts of cruelty and dishonesty ever became common (which they are not), these behaviors would still not be normal. Rather, it would be a sign of an epidemic of spiritual disorder.

(PS Do you know a lot of 18 year old young men? Most of them are very honest and would be every bit as disgusted by this act as the young man’s mother and his friend are.)
 
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