20 Answers: Eastern Catholicism

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If they could count on it being like the last two or three decades, rather than the prior five centuries, it would be a huge start.
 
Michael16 said:
What if we could somehow find a compromise formula?

Like maybe how the ECs function in communion with Rome.
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I am absolutely opposed to total centralization and latinization of the Church. Same way, I am opposed to disregarding Latin dogmatic declarations about Papacy - be it infallibility, universal jurisdiction or anything else. There is no Orthodox dogma which contradicts Papal dogmas, only rhetorics. Eastern Catholics did attend Vatican I and Vatican II, signed those documents and acknowledged how both councils defined roles of Papacy and Bishops. Same way Rome agreed to Union of Brest, Council of Florence and every other document which safeguards rights and privileges of Eastern Churches, so they are indeed Sui Iuris Churches, not just extension of Latin Church with different traditions. Both sides should keep that.
 
ziapueblo said:
Greek Catholics and Orthodox share the same rite. A rite is more than a liturgical patrimony. Liturgy must reflects the fullness of a Tradition.
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So I’m bringing this post from another thread, so as not to derail it from it’s point of conversation. My question seems more in line with this thread of thought.
ziapueblo said:
This is a good starting point:

https://melkite.org/faith/faith-worship/does-it-matter-that-we-are-melkites

ZP
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From this article I found
There is a difference! Church is not something we are obliged to do an hour a week on Sunday. In our tradition it’s a way of life - our whole life! The way we see ourselves as people of God - the family of God!
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Our tradition is not one of rules and recipes or ‘how to’s’, placing all the burden on what man has to do ‘to get to heaven when he dies’, but an experiential faith built on relationship with God-Trinity, that transforms and makes us ‘new creatures’ as we open ourselves to God in prayer and receive His deifying love.
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My question to you Melkites… is this really what you think of Western Spirituality?

Roman Catholics participating in this thread, do you feel this is an accurate description of your spirituality?

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we don’t pray to save our souls - and we don’t wonder if we have merited heaven by enough , piety , study and actions that are prescriptions for Western church models of spiritual development. In our tradition we are already in the Kingdom and our edict is not to save ourselves but to grow in divinity.
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We do not have to live in doubt as to the ultimate reality of what will happen to us when we die – heaven or hell? The choice is ours. We exercise our free will to choose to become like God or to close God out and become locked in a prison of our own self-centeredness, where the only face we see for all eternity is our own.
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I know this is not how we (RC) express these ideas, but I think the understanding is the same. At least this is very close to my understanding of eternity
 
@Justin_Mary,

I think the article you quoted doesn’t accurately depict Latin spirituality. This author should check out the Franciscans or the Jesuits.
 
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OrbisNonSufficit said:
Same way Rome agreed to Union of Brest, Council of Florence and every other document which safeguards rights and privileges of Eastern Churches, so they are indeed Sui Iuris Churches, not just extension of Latin Church with different traditions. Both sides should keep that.
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I am feeling a powerful urge to mishmash your text and agree that it would be a wonderful idea fro Rome to keep to the terms of Brest 😜 😱 🤣
 
I checked out your link, @ziapueblo.

I didn’t see where that article was. Sorry.
 
Justin_Mary said:
My question to you Melkites… is this really what you think of Western Spirituality?
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That’s probably the perspective of most Eastern Christians (EC or EO). Not saying that this is my personal opinion since I did grow up Roman Catholic. It’s one of those things, even within the Catholic communion little is known about one another.

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@ziapueblo,

That was a beautiful article. I can sense the irritation in the author’s writing and the sense of being a second class adjunct to the Latin Rite. You guys feel that way?

I like the deeply spiritual view the East has in that article.

Do you have any Eastern Catholic links you can pm me? I’d love to delve into this Eastern spirituality.
 
Michael16 said:
Do you have any Eastern Catholic links you can pm me? I’d love to delve into this Eastern spirituality.
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again, I’d suggest the East and West forum at byzcath.org.

Of course, we won’t see you for a few weeks as you delve into the archives, 🤣 😜 but they really address your questions.
 
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